[flashbang]

I've had the priveledge more Russians than any other Nationality and they're my favourites, but I would never have imagined myself dating a Russian 10(without great attitude), without much effort, and having her practically all over me!

I'd like to thank the pickup community and Roosh in particular as the most influentual writer off all the ones out there. I'd like to thank all contributors for their input.

I'll always support a man who does his best to improve his situation in life, and Roosh has clearly fought his way through many hurdles to get to where he is now. You guys embody this spirit each in your own way.

When you feel disheartened, rest and return to action. Success is never too far away!!!

[MiXX]

The best thank you we can get is a lay report man....so cough it up playa!!

By the way, what is your race? White? Black? Latin? Asian? And where did you meet this Russian 10? Do you speak Russian?

Mixx

[thegmanifesto]

flashbang -

Agreed with Mixx, break it down holmes.

[FretDancer]

+1 , Lets hear the story.

[Lusty_Argonian]

Is she a party member, does she cook a mean borscht, have you caught her trying to liberate her southern neighbors porch?

[peterthephoenix]

pics or it doesn't count

[K-man]

Yeah - cellphone pictures required for bragging rights is my rule, too. Preferably x-rated. I only trust two guys in the world (that I've known for 10+ years) without pictures - everyone else just brags too much when it comes to banging 10's.

[Ami5]

K-man!
You got it!

[Ami5]

Pics plus report!

[flashbang]

Hehe you guys cracked me up with the replies so fair is fair and here goes:

I replaced my best friend and natural G because he was sick. On the first day a spectacular Russian walked in the class. As an English teacher I have an unwritten rule that I only bang non-students as this saves me complications. Fortunately I only needed to replace my friend for a few days so soon enough the Russian became fair game. Even during the lessons it became clear that she was bombarding me with IOIs. She kept trying hard to participate ahead of the other classmates in order to impress. I gave her some attention but purpousely gave the rest of the students less attention.

A well connected female student that I used to teach mentionned something about a local friend of hers who owns a pimped out boat, complete with cabin, shower etc. I suggested we join this dude and visit a nearby island by boat. I invited the Russian and she immediately accepted.

A couple of days passed and we got to the island by boat. Having barely slept that week due to freelance English-Spanish translations, I feel asleep for a few hours on the rocky ground and when I awoke, I set up a tent for the night. As night fell, we joined a group of rastas and campers and chilled around a campfire. When we got tired of that, the other 2 companions in my group went to sleep on the boat while the Russian and I shared the tent. Needless to say, it was a very positive night

The next morning we awoke and meditated on a nearby hill before walking around the entire island(2km long) making out and fooling around every so often. To cut a long story short, we eventually returned to the home island and I dropped her off after a weekend to remember.

Later that night I met up with a South Korean(less hot probably a 6.5 or 7 but with a nice body), who wanted to visit the clubs. She got into the car and we chatted a bit and I went for the make-out. She resisted saying she only wanted to be kissed on the cheek. Normally I would have relented for a while and tried again but I was a bit tired from the long island hopping adventure so I wasn't in the mood to take shit from a girl I had a few weeks ealrier made-out savagely on the beach. I wasn't about to settle for being given permission on where to kiss her.

Had I had no options at the time I may have been inclined to secure a singular source of pussy but I had the Russian now so I basically told her we weren't going to the clubs. She asked if I could at least drop her off but she had lost the perceived sluttiness advantage I had attributed to her and was now only a potential hazard(student in the same school as the Russian). Calmly, I made it clear I was not gonna be her taxi driver so she got out and I went to the clubs alone. Maybe the Korean could have converted to a bang but didn't want to be a beta fool kissing her on the cheeks like she's some princess. Gimme a break!

My race is Mediterranean, black hair, brown eyes similar to Latin people. I feel that this helps me with people such as Russians. I fact my fucking CV sees very few Latins and Mediterraneans but several Eastern Europeans and Russians. For example, as much as I think Brazilian girls look hot and generally have superior bodies to Russians, I feel I have a better chance in Russia rather than Brazil, and it's with Russians that I've always been successful. Maybe they have a thing for Latins, Mediterraneans and Blacks.

I can speak and write Russian reasonably well. I think it helped me with the Russian as a DHV. As I stated in a previous thread however language competence works best if it's masked with a pretend sense of modesty. Casually saying a few things in her language as if it's something perfectly normal is something James Bond would do. If you come across as trying too hard then, you're trying too hard!

Pic should be attached. She looks even hotter in real life. Once again thanks Roosh, G Man, Mixx, Naughty Nomad, and everyone else(too many to mention). This website does away with the bullshit and focuses on what really matters.

[OGNorCal707]

Didn't read your story, but if the girl in the pic is the one you shagged, I wouldn't rate her a 10, based on the pic she's an 8 IMHO, with potential to be a 8.5+ if her body's nice and she looks better in real life.

[Vicious]

(05-30-2011 01:40 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Didn't read your story, but if the girl in the pic is the one you shagged, I wouldn't rate her a 10, based on the pic she's an 8 IMHO, with potential to be a 8.5+ if her body's nice and she looks better in real life.

WRONG answer. Seriously WTF is with this 1-10 rating down to a decimal point?

The right answer is: Good fuckin' job bro! Give yourself a big pat on the back, look back on all the work and time you've put into this and realize that It's All Been Worth It! ! !

[MiXX]

Flashbang...thanks for the breakdown. So, basically, what really helped you is that you live in Russia and are an English teacher, not just a passing tourist there for 1 month of debauchery - right?

Also, what city exactly did this all take place? Can you gives us more specifics of the city you are living in? {Venues, strategies, apt guides, club guides, nightlife, local customs...etc.}

Being a latin man, I am particularly interested in you mentioning that you are Mediterranean..from what country exactly? I found Russian women in the US to be very cold, and standoffish, so you are describing the total opposite of what I found when I was gaming them in Miami and DC. Ukraine women were friendlier, but not Russian women. Actually I have witnessed, and heard from credible sources that Russian women are closet racists.....so I am surprised to hear that your latin looks are doing so well.

I do agree that you will do better in Europe than in Brazil. Your latin looks (like mine) are extremely common, and not sought after by Brazilian women like Blonde, white guys are.

Lastly, I do not mean to be hard on your girl - she's cute, but careful when saying a 10....our expectations are raised extremely high with a 10 (aka Dime piece), especially from the players that live in South Beach, Miami, LA, Austin, and Montreal.

Here is my idea of a Russian 9, she would be a potential 10, but her personality and intelligence would take her the rest of the way to a "Dime status" not jut her looks.



Mixx

[ManAbout]

(05-30-2011 01:58 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

The right answer is: Good fuckin' job bro! Give yourself a big pat on the back, look back on all the work and time you've put into this and realize that It's All Been Worth It! ! !

Yeah, as long as he found HIS 10, good for him.

[Giovonny]

I thought we were gonna see Irina Shayk

[Arado]

(05-30-2011 02:27 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Yeah, as long as he found HIS 10, good for him.

As always, the forum should be more about sharing techniques and encouragement then looking for approval from other members.

[OGNorCal707]

(05-30-2011 02:27 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-30-2011 01:58 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

The right answer is: Good fuckin' job bro! Give yourself a big pat on the back, look back on all the work and time you've put into this and realize that It's All Been Worth It! ! !

Yeah, as long as he found HIS 10, good for him.

True that, sorry if I came across as a dick, good work flashbang, you got yourself a cute girl there. I do agree that like a lot of guys I take the 1-10 scale too seriously, and it's not a healthy thing. As long as you are stoked on the girl than that's all that matters, we all have different opinions. It's just that when someone says they banged a "10" I am always a bit skeptical, because as Mixx points out some of us have a very high standard for what that means (in my book a women that looks just about perfect).

Anyways, I'm not here to belittle anyone or seek anyone else approval, I also agree that this forum should be about sharing techniques an encouragement, so again my apologizes if I came off too negative.

[UgSlayer]

Some posts on this thread remind me of this
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4747-p...l#pid60758

She's cute, bro. I'd def hit it....









...but only if I was drunk

[Ami5]

MAYBE he is right that she looks much better in real life.
I have seen LOT of Russians who look like a solid 9 in real, but on pics they look too ... slutty? Don't know. But it seems like they apply too much of make-up or gloss, I dont really know!

She is 7.5-8 on my scale.
I am working on a Russian MILF right now, along with her daughter... mother is 10 (straight up!) - daughter is 9, but a virgin.
Problem is they dont speak excellent English! duh!

I agree, these Russian girls are really something on my hit list always

[K-man]

The girl is a 9 allright, if she looks just a little better in life than on the photo.
Congrats if you hit that.
So again, where did this happen?
Good to see a pimping English teacher. I remember at the American Chamber of Commerce Christmas 2010 party in Bulgaria, I met a big group of ESL teachers, perhaps 20 people. The girls were all fat except one Asian girl, and the dudes looked nerdy. I doubt they are hitting girls like the one above.

[flashbang]

@ Vicious - I agree with you that the decimal point system is somewhat outdated and sounds a bit geeky. There's hot chicks, ugly chicks and doable chicks. Roosh's boner test makes sense. That shit don't lie.

@Mixx - I'm living in my native island of Malta in Southern Europe. Naughty Nomad has a very good guide of Malta and I confirm that it's improving dramatically for playas. When the church held power 10 years ago it was pretty hard to pull locals without being cockblocked by Jesus but things are changing.

Only 4 days ago we voted to legalise divorce(yes you read that right. We're still in the Middle Ages!!) There's an undercurrent of youngsters who've had enough of religious bullshit and now open their legs at the drop of a hat. If you've got black or brown hair it's gonna be hard to pull the local girls here because it's very common, but you'll score with the tourists. A word of warning though.

If you've got blond hair you may pull more pussy than you can handle. My Weedish Swedish friend with no game was able to score the same day he arrived just by being blond and good looking. It's a bit like what Roosh says about the Danish roommate he had.

When it comes to Russians I usually try to mix being nice with being alpha, and just play it by ear. This Russian girl is really nice and not bitchy so it's been a challenge to be a bit of an asshole sometimes.

I don't know about Russian women in the US but here they're pretty damn friendly. As I said they've been my bread and butter and greatest contributors to my CV. I think you'd kill with them outside the US because you have Latin features that they like(Russian guys usually look pretty similar to each other)

Your picture certainly fits the bill as a high level Russian. I'm stunned as to how often they are able to produce such top-tier talent. Having visited the Baltic countries most women there told me it's about competition and 53% female to male ratio.

Ultimately she may or may not be a 10(I don't care as long as she hot) and sucks good cock. The point is game expands your horizons and options.

@ Giovanni - sure Irina Shayk is hot but remember that that is manufactured beauty. She probably is also hot in real life but it's her job to be hot. That's like how Le Bron James or Kobe Bryant are great basketball players. Well they better damn well be since that's all they do!

@ OGNorCal707 - No worries brother. I know the standards are high but believe me it's the same here! In this girl's case I'm very pleased that she's quite down to earth and intelligent. I actually enjoy being around her which is more than I can say about most girls whom I only enjoy being around as long as I'm fucking them.

@ AMi5 - If they don't speak English try using lots of gestures and make them laugh(short term solution). Worked for me before I learnt Russian(long term solution)

@ Kman - Cheers man. I must say we're lucky right now to have tonnes of hit chicks at the school(including many Asians!) Now I'm not into Asians usually. I prefer Whites, Latinas and Blacks but these Asians are smoking and talent is talent.

Bottom line is whatever the rating, here's a girl who is hot but does not have the bitchy American girl attitude that really put me off American girls when I lived in Barcelona. Her only defect in my eyes, which probably justifies a lower rating is that she has small tits and is somewhat skinny. I like the Brazilian and Black girl meatiness(not fat though).

I've always been a fan of Russian women and I sincerely hope that the American mentality doesn't fuck them up because it seems to fuck up every nationality it has contact with! America is a great country in many areas but something about the girls there(at least the ones I've met) just doesn't work out. Perhaps girl quality is inversely proportional to GDP.

[thegmanifesto]

Give flashbang props.

I am sure if his girl had professional photographers, professional make up artists and airbrushing, you guys would call her a 10.

You guys are comparing professional photos with a picture that was taken in what looks like some hallway of a hostel.

Personally, I had no interest in the picture, I am more down with the story.

Bottom line, the cat is in Malta swooping Russian girls. That is smooth in my book.

By the way, flashbang, where is the Malta breakdown?

[MiXX]

(05-31-2011 09:33 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Give flashbang props.

I am sure if his girl had professional photographers, professional make up artists and airbrushing, you guys would call her a 10.

G, I have photos of girls taken with my cell 5MP Iphone camera that many would call a 10 with none of what you described above. A 10 looks a 10 in any amateur shot too....even drunk, 1.3MP camera cell phone shots.

I am just saying that I see many cats race to label a girl a 10, but in reality, they are not. I have called a girl a 5, and my friends call me crazy and say she is an 8. What can I say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I only come across a 10 maybe 3x per year....maybe.

Mixx

[thegmanifesto]

MiXX-

I got what you are throwing down.

I guess I have never really jived with the 1-10 scale, my mind just doesn't work in that mathematical way.

There are just too many variables for me.

For instance, I have met girls that pretty much all guys would consider a 10, but their personalities and energy were so ugly that they wanted to make me vomit and I would consider them a zero.

"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Truer words have never been spoken. I wonder who first said that?

[Excelsior]

(05-31-2011 08:48 AM)flashbang Wrote:  

I've always been a fan of Russian women and I sincerely hope that the American mentality doesn't fuck them up because it seems to fuck up every nationality it has contact with! America is a great country in many areas but something about the girls there(at least the ones I've met) just doesn't work out. Perhaps girl quality is inversely proportional to GDP.

Other nations with higher(or roughly equal) per capita GDPs to America have higher quality women, so that's not it.

It is unique to the culture. America's unique blend of puritanism, isolation, and diversity during its formation created a unique set of results. The relatively low quality of the women here relates to puritanism and adversarialism, both key aspects of American culture.

-Adversarialism: Americans like conflict. It isn't a cohesive, united culture-people here like to pick sides and fight doggedly over things. This makes the gender war here more antagonistic than it is in many other places. This also makes American feminism far more hostile to men than the kind seen in other cultures.
With the death of the patriarchy in the 60's/70's and the more restrictive gender roles that came with it, the women have gotten a bit of an edge in power, which is why so many more American men are complaining about female entitlement, bitterness, etc, etc. Feminism is no longer about equality here-it is a power grab.

-Puritanism: Puritanism is the core from which American society grew, and it is the source of many of this nation's social hypocrisies. The ball-busting "career woman" type of feminist we so often complain about here is a direct offshoot of puritanism. The Puritans encouraged a strong work ethic among their women(to try and match men and double their labor force) and tried to remove some gender roles while also repressing sexuality.

This is why American women have historically been seen as "more masculine" than others-that's not a new trend. It is also why they've worked harder than many others(even the relatively progressive Scandinavians) in creating "equality"-that is, being "one of the boys". Not just having sex like one of the boys, but really BEING one of the boys.

The only other country that really comes close to America's level of gender tension is the UK, more distantly followed then by Canada(only Toronto really comes close to a US-style environment) and Australia(far more laid back, less adversarial culture).

You won't have to worry about Russian women adopting these problems. For that to happen, they would need to come to the US and live completely immersed and consumed by this culture, losing almost all ties to their own (including parental influence from more recent immigrants). Unless she moves here as a young child, lives with American parents and grows up here, she likely won't reach that level.

Just don't ever move your woman here.