[mikeraw]

I'm only here in China til 5/23, maybe sooner. I agree, we should meet up. I live in midtown, walking distance to all the bars. I'll PMP you guys later.

btw, I'm only enrolled in Rice for language courses, but I hang out there as much as possible when "working" from home.

[The_e_man]

Only reason I suspect troll is the fact that you calculated the percentage chance of meeting girls in your criteria based on their area.
So either you are trolling or you are so out-of-touch with reality that you probably shouldn't be posting in an elite game forum.
Like honestly dude I can't imagine any of my friends making a matrix and calculating the percentage chance of meeting a girl in a place. And you have values like 83% so your not even ball-parking / joking around about it but you actually think there is an 83% chance of meeting a marriage-material girl at church and you somehow used some sort of algorithm to calculate this.

Either troll or mild autism.

[mikeraw]

simple excel chart and formulas.

criteria at the right column, venues as column headers. then a 1 or 0.

At a church group, I'll only approach thin girls, that gets a 1. if it's a church group, then she'll be catholic, duh, so another 1. divorced? who knows, so 0.5, white collar
background? who knows, 0.5. partier? chances are that no or not anymore, so 0.25.

add the total up and divide by the 12 criteria.

it's all theoretical and ballpark.

[Geekzor]

(05-14-2015 07:53 PM)mikeraw Wrote:  

thanks, hwuzhere. I do have lots to contribute about my adventures all over the world and some closer to home. it's just that I don't want to become a keyboard jockey

If you just benefit from this forum and other members experiences without giving back, I don't think you really understand what this forum is all about..

[eradicator]

go abroad: eastern europe(russia, balkans, romania, russian republics), south america(brazil, colombia), SEA

if you try to bring them back, they will become westernized.

[Merenguero]

(05-14-2015 08:09 PM)mikeraw Wrote:  

oh yea. that guy was awesome. I follow him on Twitter. I wonder what city he lives in.

He divides his time equally among Miami Beach, Zanesville, and Scranton.

[YossariansRight]

(05-14-2015 08:41 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

go abroad: eastern europe(russia, balkans, romania, russian republics), south america(brazil, colombia), SEA

if you try to bring them back, they will become westernized.

^^100%! This happened to my uncle. He always said the biggest mistake he made was coming back to the USA with his wife. He got royally fucked over in the divorce.

[mikeraw]

Where'd he bring her back from Yossarian?

[Dagonet]

OP is definitely trollish but maybe well-intentioned. Regardless, I just want to say that I had a girl who met all 9 criteria, but I still wasn't really happy. Basic, intense sexual attraction is more important than the checklist. Also, even if you find a girl with all those things, it might turn into more of a burden if you don't really want to get married or have that kind of lifestyle. I tried to force myself to stick with it because she was that rare "keeper" type... but maybe it's overrated. Just get out and meet girls, go after the ones that you're really attracted to, and see which ones stick (as far as how into you they are, and which ones you continue to enjoy being around). Finding the "unicorn" when you don't really want one isn't that satisfying. And sometimes you do want the unicorn, but it still ends up being unfulfilling. I'd say overall that the "checklist" is a chick move, and denies you the natural fluidity to really enjoy meeting women and discovering what they have to offer.

[Comte De St. Germain]

If he's down to meet members I'm less likely to suspect a . I'll meet up with him and see what's what when he gets here.

[Fortis]

(05-14-2015 08:13 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

If you go to Rice University, do you live in Houston and work in the oil and gas industry? If so meet up with me hwuzhere, and the others sometime. Let's have a beer and we can talk alot more about this or whatever.

As the only guy left on the forum with a Chinese wife, I can assure you that finding a Catholic woman in China is almost impossible.

Philippines and Latin America are your best options. Are their any Catholic women in EE? Some other European countries may have what you are looking for. Spain and Portugal come to mind.

Don't mind the fellas busting balls. They mean well, they just riding you a little bit.

Who else on the forum had a chinese wife?

[Comte De St. Germain]

(05-15-2015 12:16 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 08:13 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

If you go to Rice University, do you live in Houston and work in the oil and gas industry? If so meet up with me hwuzhere, and the others sometime. Let's have a beer and we can talk alot more about this or whatever.

As the only guy left on the forum with a Chinese wife, I can assure you that finding a Catholic woman in China is almost impossible.

Philippines and Latin America are your best options. Are their any Catholic women in EE? Some other European countries may have what you are looking for. Spain and Portugal come to mind.

Don't mind the fellas busting balls. They mean well, they just riding you a little bit.

Who else on the forum had a chinese wife?

BadWolf did but he had several mini meltdowns and just seemed anti social leading to a ban.

[Fortis]

^ BadWolf had some pretty serious intel on China. Shame that he was crazy.

[iknowexactly]

(05-14-2015 09:26 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 08:41 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

go abroad: eastern europe(russia, balkans, romania, russian republics), south america(brazil, colombia), SEA

if you try to bring them back, they will become westernized.

^^100%! This happened to my uncle. He always said the biggest mistake he made was coming back to the USA with his wife. He got royally fucked over in the divorce.

Where was she from, looks level, did she come equipped with previous kids, what was her education?

I was going to come to Asia and stay, but the place is an intellectual rain puddle and I am bored out of my mind compared to the USA.

[Capitán Peligroso]

Quote:

I was going to come to Asia and stay, but the place is an intellectual rain puddle and I am bored out of my mind compared to the USA.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(05-15-2015 01:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I was going to come to Asia and stay, but the place is an intellectual rain puddle and I am bored out of my mind compared to the USA.

Have you considered the possibility that your insistence on "intellectualism" (as well as the way you define "intellectualism") is unhealthy?

[civpro]

The answer is to find a religious girl within your ethnicity.

[TravelerKai]

(05-14-2015 09:26 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 08:41 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

go abroad: eastern europe(russia, balkans, romania, russian republics), south america(brazil, colombia), SEA

if you try to bring them back, they will become westernized.

^^100%! This happened to my uncle. He always said the biggest mistake he made was coming back to the USA with his wife. He got royally fucked over in the divorce.

Unless you are willing to completely outline what your uncle did, I don't see how this helps or benefits the OP. For every one of these anecdotes I could probably pull out 10 more. I, along with my wife, follow more foreign/US couples than anyone on this forum easily. Most are making babies and living the high life like kings (such as myself), and so far 5 have gone completely sour or off the deep end. Interestingly enough so far only one was a green card hunter and the rest are a combination of men beating the women bad enough to chase them into shelters, or over exposing them to wild deviant junk.

One cat takes his Chinese wife to strip clubs. Dude is like 40+ and the girl is like 20 or 21. It's freaking her out. They live in Florida.

The ones doing well probably number over 50+ easily. There is a small mix of Filipino and other Asian. I do not follow any EE couples, but Akula gave me a link to a forum for that, I read through it a few times. It's more or less about the same.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(05-15-2015 06:52 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:26 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 08:41 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

go abroad: eastern europe(russia, balkans, romania, russian republics), south america(brazil, colombia), SEA

if you try to bring them back, they will become westernized.

^^100%! This happened to my uncle. He always said the biggest mistake he made was coming back to the USA with his wife. He got royally fucked over in the divorce.

Unless you are willing to completely outline what your uncle did, I don't see how this helps or benefits the OP. For every one of these anecdotes I could probably pull out 10 more. I, along with my wife, follow more foreign/US couples than anyone on this forum easily. Most are making babies and living the high life like kings (such as myself), and so far 5 have gone completely sour or off the deep end. Interestingly enough so far only one was a green card hunter and the rest are a combination of men beating the women bad enough to chase them into shelters, or over exposing them to wild deviant junk.

One cat takes his Chinese wife to strip clubs. Dude is like 40+ and the girl is like 20 or 21. It's freaking her out. They live in Florida.

The ones doing well probably number over 50+ easily. There is a small mix of Filipino and other Asian. I do not follow any EE couples, but Akula gave me a link to a forum for that, I read through it a few times. It's more or less about the same.

Hell my own mother is from the EE and my parents are still together. They are heavily religious so that's one thing but it's not impossible. Note my mother married my father at 21.

[heavy]

Your post makes you seem a bit conceited and insecure. I don't know you, so I don't know if you are, I just know you're post makes you sound that way. That said...

These girls are everywhere:

Quote:

Thin, Catholic, Not divorced, Sweet disposition, Less than 5 partners, Younger than 28, Doesn't party much, White collar, Professional family, Wowed by me, Professional but not career-driven, Not a big spender, Organized

+Married parents, +Less than 3 partners, +Younger than 24
- Catholic...not sure on that. Yeah, not a bad qualifier.
- Wowed by me?

You can find these women anywhere you'd find young women (colleges, retail jobs, hospitals (new nurse grads), etc). They're not in a specific place. I know a few girls I've dated and friends have dated/married who fit these criteria. That said...

My ex-wife fit many of these criteria when I met her:
Thin, C̶a̶t̶h̶o̶l̶i̶c̶ Baptist, Not divorced, Sweet disposition, L̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶5̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶t̶n̶e̶r̶s̶ Virgin, Y̶o̶u̶n̶g̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶2̶8̶ 18 years old, Doesn't party much, White collar, Professional family, Wowed by me, Professional but not career-driven, Not a big spender, Organized

My friend's ex-wife fit many of those criteria when he met her. Regardless of the woman, there is one fact you must face if you plan on getting married:

She might divorce you. This could be one year later, three years later, 5, 10, or 20 years later, but at some point, you might get divorced.

[swiss rabbit]

How about Iran? Just scratch the Catholic requirement

[YossariansRight]

(05-15-2015 08:30 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Your post makes you seem a bit conceited and insecure. I don't know you, so I don't know if you are, I just know you're post makes you sound that way. That said...

These girls are everywhere:

Quote:

Thin, Catholic, Not divorced, Sweet disposition, Less than 5 partners, Younger than 28, Doesn't party much, White collar, Professional family, Wowed by me, Professional but not career-driven, Not a big spender, Organized

+Married parents, +Less than 3 partners, +Younger than 24
- Catholic...not sure on that. Yeah, not a bad qualifier.
- Wowed by me?

You can find these women anywhere you'd find young women (colleges, retail jobs, hospitals (new nurse grads), etc). They're not in a specific place. I know a few girls I've dated and friends have dated/married who fit these criteria. That said...

My ex-wife fit many of these criteria when I met her:
Thin, C̶a̶t̶h̶o̶l̶i̶c̶ Baptist, Not divorced, Sweet disposition, L̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶5̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶t̶n̶e̶r̶s̶ Virgin, Y̶o̶u̶n̶g̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶2̶8̶ 18 years old, Doesn't party much, White collar, Professional family, Wowed by me, Professional but not career-driven, Not a big spender, Organized

My friend's ex-wife fit many of those criteria when he met her. Regardless of the woman, there is one fact you must face if you plan on getting married:

She might divorce you. This could be one year later, three years later, 5, 10, or 20 years later, but at some point, you might get divorced.

^^Pure wisdom right there. Wisdom learned through life.

   

[FlyBoy]

(05-15-2015 08:30 AM)heavy Wrote:  

My friend's ex-wife fit many of those criteria when he met her. Regardless of the woman, there is one fact you must face if you plan on getting married:

She might divorce you. This could be one year later, three years later, 5, 10, or 20 years later, but at some point, you might get divorced.

Bingo!!!

Modern marriage has been transformed from being a steady job into being a business.

Most men will thrive with a steady long term job. They'll wake up everyday, go to work and do their job. They'll repeat this until they retire with more or less a smile on their face.

On the other hand, a small percentage of men is capable of enduring the rigors of being an entrepreneur. Why? Yes, responding to market realities, keeping up with technology, insuring adequate capitalization ... etc is hard work to be sure, but is it that much harder than all the jobs out there? I submit to you the answer is, no!

So, why aren't all men entrepreneurs? After all a successful business is much sweeter than a promotion. The answer in my experience is the difference in men's ability to handle risk. Specifically, the risk of failure.

If you think failure is a learning experience on the way to success, then you are cut out to be an entrepreneur. If not, find a job.

Back in the day, marriage was like a job. Both man and woman, knew where to be, when and what to do. It mostly worked for the best and everyone (man, woman and children) benefited. Fast forward to today and marriage has been transformed into a business that requires communication, periodic maintenance and rapid response to changes in the environment. Add to that, an irrational customer (the wife) that have to be satisfied, else someone (the husband) is not doing their job. Add to that, no societal shaming for divorce. No wonder why we have high rates of failure.

In summery, if you can handle a divorce, do it, if not, stay single. This is true, irrespective of the quality of woman you start with, or how much work you put into the relationship. I have seen countless businesses with 'great ideas' where the guys put all on the line and still amounted to nothing. Likewise, I have seen many men who married a 'good woman' and put all their energy into the marriage only to end up in divorce court.

If I were you, I would not marry. However, if I did, I would focus on the quality of life in my marriage rather than it's longevity. What good is it to be married and miserable? Nothing!!!

PS: About you smashing a college hottie every couple of weeks ....... I believe you ..... I really do!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-14-2015 07:14 PM)mikeraw Wrote:  

Man, what has this forum turned into?!

I'm no troll.Just looking for your 2 freaking cents. Yes, I only log on to seek advice... then put it to practice.

I didn't even know there was an oil and gas thread here. Sorry, I work mostly indoors. But I am in China right now to inspect our products on a couple of our rigs. What do you want me to say? Work hard, get in the industry and enjoy life?

And to that guy up there that doesn't know what a classical pianist is, it's a pianist that mostly plays classical music.

You are in China now. And your post shows a lack of Game and female psychology insight. Go read Rational Male, Heartiste, some Game literature - spend more time on the forum and practicing your Game in the real life. Then think again about marriage - looking in detail about the current state of the contract itself.

After having done all that you will not need to ask those questions. You will know the answer yourself.

Poland for example is 99%+ Catholic, so plenty of women there and they do make better wives, but you have to get them young and they have to be traditionally minded. Forget about your age limit of 28 - that is way too old for most.

[heavy]

(05-15-2015 02:13 PM)FlyBoy Wrote:  

Modern marriage has been transformed from being a steady job into being a business.

Most men will thrive with a steady long term job.
...
On the other hand, a small percentage of men is capable of enduring the rigors of being an entrepreneur.
...
Back in the day, marriage was like a job. Both man and woman, knew where to be, when and what to do. It mostly worked for the best and everyone (man, woman and children) benefited. Fast forward to today and marriage has been transformed into a business that requires communication, periodic maintenance and rapid response to changes in the environment. Add to that, an irrational customer (the wife) that have to be satisfied, else someone (the husband) is not doing their job. Add to that, no societal shaming for divorce. No wonder why we have high rates of failure.
...

Mind blown. Great analogy.