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What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?
#26

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

Charles Manson and Ted Bundy were also mass murderers . It's all coming together
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#27

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

"I fail to see a link between homosexuality and would-be murder-suicides."

Crazy people commit suicides, and occasionally murder suicides; homosexuals have high rates of suicide. I'd guess that the vast majority of homosexual suicides kill no one but the one doing it, as with non homosexual suicides. Crazy people can endanger others when they hold positions of public trust. Why is this so hard to understand?

Transsexuals were mentioned because they have off the charts level of crazy.

That's what that whole national "It Gets Better" campaign was about - frequent gay suicide.
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#28

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

How about not hitting turn banks at 100mph+ to Maddow. Congress being cheap is a another issue, the truth is that 20-30 trips of that route have gone by that turn for almost 70 years with no issue. My guess is that every operator knew not to be a moron and push your speed up approaching that turn.
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#29

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

Media trying to stomp out pre-emptive fires.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/14...86360.html

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This is nuts.

According to conservative radio host Sandy Rios, Amtrak engineer Brandon Bostian’s sexual orientation was “a factor” in Tuesday's train derailment that killed eight people and injured more than 200. Right-wing news sites have hastened to point out that Bostian, who campaigned against California’s ban on same-sex marriage, appears to be gay.

“I am not inferring to [sic] those of you who are gay rights activists and who like to monitor this show, I’m not inferring that this accident happened because he was gay,” said Rios, who hosts “Sandy Rios In The Morning” on American Family Radio. “But I do think it’s an interesting part of the story, and I bet it will be edited out.”

“I don’t know," she added, "but I think it is something to be discussed and I think it’s a factor and I doubt you will hear it anywhere else.”

Note the rhetoric here: Rios prefaced her statement by saying she’s not blaming Bostian’s sexuality for the disaster and then went on to do just that. It’s the “I’m not racist but ...” argument.

Rios then implied a parallel situation with someone she knows who underwent a gender transition and also worked in transportation. She characterized this other individual as “going through some confusion that has to do with the very core of who they are.”

“Someone I know who worked for a very large airline started taking hormone shots and put his entire plane at risk because he had an emotional, angry outburst to something that happened,” Rios said.
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#30

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

this is one reason why one man crews are a terrible idea. im a conductor for a class 1 freight railroad and we always have two men in the locomotive. all kinds of shit can happen whether its a medical issue, fatigue, a distraction, etc. you need another person up there to step in and take action if its necessary.
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#31

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

The reason this is only now becoming a problem is because in the days past, you could fire someone for being gay. Now, that is discrimination. So now we have these deliberately hired gays for "diversity" and they still are not happy with the world and want to burn everything down. I cannot recall any recent tragedy where a normalsexual was angry with life and tried to bring down a plane or derail a train or sink a ship. Gays are extreme narcissists, so they need to go out in a big thing. A normal will prefer to get drunk in his room and go alone.

Someone mentioned Elliot Rodger. He was also probably gay. Heartiste covered that extensively. Indeed, the latter also noted Bostian had the face.

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Yes, you guessed right. The libtards are already staring to blame the Republicans for a crash caused by a gay activist running a train at over 100 mph in a 50 mph zone.
I find this funny because there is literally no infrastructure adjustment that would have prevented this. The tracks are fine and not in bad condition. Positive train control would be good, but should not be necessary. This guy also apparently complained about the lack of funding and safety standards for Amtrak and its operators, so maybe he thought he would teach a lesson. This freak is a terrorist who should be executed alongside the Boston marathon guy.

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Rios then implied a parallel situation with someone she knows who underwent a gender transition and also worked in transportation. She characterized this other individual as “going through some confusion that has to do with the very core of who they are.”
That is a great point, how trannies cannot be considered of sound mind to operate heavy machinery.

What scares me is that no one is asking why this guy went 100 mph. He should be arrested on that ground alone for criminal negligence at least, terrorism and 8 counts of murder, plus 200 whatever attempted murder. The whole coverage is about infrastructure. I guess personal responsibility is gone from American discourse.
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#32

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

Quote: (05-13-2015 10:59 PM)zaqan Wrote:  

Both were operated by suicidal homosexuals.

Germanwings

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Germanwings Alps disaster: Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz trawled suicide and gay websites before crash

What I find funny is that, earlier today, I joked on a forum that the conductor would turn out to be an underqualified affirmative action candidate.

Amtrak

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Twitter chatter possible stress from relationship difficulties.
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He has been especially active with the Memphis chapter of the LGBT. But more recently he's been active in pro-government gay marriage demonstrations in Philadelphia.
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Bostian had no prior engineering experience before working for Amtrak. His degree was in Business Administration. Before working for Amtrak he was a cashier at Target.

This is what our society has become. Allowing mentally ill degenerates to hold our lives in the balance in the name of political correctness.

I am ashamed that I was ever cowed into submission by my leftist "friends" to "accept" gays. I never really did, but I stopped talking about it on facebook, and eventually came to support gay "marriage" (which I now view to be a nonsense concept). Thanks to the manosphere (this should link to a comment on ROK), I have found likeminded people and learned more about the threat posed by these diseased freaks. You guys have helped me and others get better in so many ways.

Damn! I would think anybody who was an Amtrak engineer would be a serious man with a lifetime of experience in the railroads, not some twink who couldn't leverage his business degree towards a decent career and ended up as a Target cashier.
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#33

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

Apparently, they "still have no idea" what caused the crash. One wonders if political correctness makes it impossible to reveal the truth. So much bad would come out if they did actually go and charge this pervert. They would have to reveal that he is a gay terrorist, which is a big nono.

http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/06/w...nt/394934/

The investigators are claiming that the cell phone records are not matching up so they are not sure when it was in use, and thus cannot say whether it was used prior to the crash. Congressmen are incredulous saying it cannot be that hard to put it together, and they are probably right that a rough range could be speculated based on the records even if the timezones do not match.
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#34

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

Cell phone or not the clown fucked up big time.

If he WAS on his cell either talking or texting he will be even more fuct. There are some very serious laws about that shit since the California commuter train crash several years ago.

Frankly, guys like this piss me off. The job isn't that hard. (passenger is actually far easier than freight. I've run both as a locomotive engineer)

Hitting a 50MPH curve at 106 is just plain not giving a damn or paying a modicum of attention to your job.
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#35

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

Quote: (05-14-2015 12:49 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

"Yeah right - let's test 100% of bus drivers constantly for psychiatric health, because you hire either transgender people with a 50% suicide tendency or gays with a 10-20% suicide tendency. Discrimination is one thing - common sense another. "

Who said constantly? Such checks for people in positions of public trust is a pretty smart thing to do regardless. It can be done at hiring, every five or ten years, and so on. Not a big cost of doing business all things considered.

With operation of any public transport vehicle, it seems pretty easy to put startup-gateway testing devices in place. Where you have to answer math questions, play some little eye-hand coordination game, IDK, but you see what I mean. Industrial/Human interface psychologists or the like could help design them.

This is better than drug testing because you'd have to do it every time you start up a 747, and I first heard it mentioned when sleep deprivation caused deaths were publicized ( The Exxon Valdex was alleged to have been caused by sleep deprivation.).

I speculate it would also help screen for people who are very emotionally upset for any reason-- death of spouse, child, house repo'd, sudden call from Allah to murder your passengers....

You screw up three times or whatever and a supervisor has to come and sign off that you look fit to fly. Now his ass is on the line.

It also would be, if designed correctly, be very objective and avoid the philosophical issues like "Are women good pilots?"

Also, if possible small-area cell phones jammers should be in place so no bus or train driver could use a cell phone in the driver's seat and operating a vehicle.

EDIT: I just read he was going 100 in a 50?!?? You mean a PASSENGER TRAIN doesn't have a fucking GOVERNOR on it to prevent that kind of insanity?! That is unbelievable.

Another gateway screening ( whine away, it's part of your job) could be in place that needs to be passed if the train is supposed to legitimately go over 80 or whatever speed is deemed dangerous. Pass the test or keep the speed down because you are impaired. )

IN addition ( oooh my gubmint control) secondary aggregate scores should be kept, so for instance pilots/conductors who consistently need 2 or more tries to pass the gateway screener should be given remedial training before they kill somebody with marginal performance.
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#36

What do the Germanwings crash and Amtrak derailment have in common?

When you double the speed, you square the energy.

Here's what happens to a Ford focus at regular crash test speeds (40mph?)





This is what happens at 120mph:





As a train engineer, a job requiring specialized knowledge, there's no way he didn't know the potential consequences.

Going 100mph in a 50 is nothing short of willful murder.

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