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High School Girls in Colombia
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High School Girls in Colombia

Quote: (06-22-2011 05:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Ummm...isn't that what I wrote? As long as the aggressor is not a in a position of authority by the actor.

So, I fail to see how any judge can say that my 16 year old neighbor I banged is being exploited by me if I have absolutely no authority or influence of her decisions to consent to sex.

In other words, her having sex with me does not prevent or cause her from getting fired, losing her life, or getting a promotion be it school or work.

Not sure what is unclear here, but its crystal clear to me.

Mixx

No, those are two different clauses. The first one you talk about is where the person should not be in a position of authority, i.e. teacher, boss etc. That is pretty clearcut for the most part.

BUT, there is ANOTHER clause, that covers relationships which are not those where the other person is in a direct position of authority. These are two separate provisions of the same act.

While YOU might fail to see how you banging your 16 year old neighbour is an exploitative relationship, a judge may very well, on his or her discretion, decide to see otherwise.

Just being more than twice her age could be sufficient reason for the judge to decide that you have control over her and it is an exploitative relationship.

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153. (1) Every person commits an offence who is in a position of trust or authority towards a young person, who is a person with whom the young person is in a relationship of dependency or who is in a relationship with a young person that is exploitative of the young person, and who............



Inference of sexual exploitation

(1.2) A judge may infer that a person is in a relationship with a young person that is exploitative of the young person from the nature and circumstances of the relationship, including

(a) the age of the young person;

(b) the age difference between the person and the young person;

© the evolution of the relationship; and

(d) the degree of control or influence by the person over the young person.

Definition of “young person”

(2) In this section, “young person” means a person 16 years of age or more but under the age of eighteen years.


http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/...ge-65.html
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#52

High School Girls in Colombia

Quote: (06-22-2011 05:49 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (06-22-2011 05:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Ummm...isn't that what I wrote? As long as the aggressor is not a in a position of authority by the actor.

So, I fail to see how any judge can say that my 16 year old neighbor I banged is being exploited by me if I have absolutely no authority or influence of her decisions to consent to sex.

In other words, her having sex with me does not prevent or cause her from getting fired, losing her life, or getting a promotion be it school or work.

Not sure what is unclear here, but its crystal clear to me.

Mixx

No, those are two different clauses. The first one you talk about is where the person should not be in a position of authority, i.e. teacher, boss etc. That is pretty clearcut for the most part.

BUT, there is ANOTHER clause, that covers relationships which are not those where the other person is in a direct position of authority. These are two separate provisions of the same act.

While YOU might fail to see how you banging your 16 year old neighbour is an exploitative relationship, a judge may very well, on his or her discretion, decide to see otherwise.

Just being more than twice her age could be sufficient reason for the judge to decide that you have control over her and it is an exploitative relationship.

Here is a section of the code:

Section 153 then goes on to prohibit the sexual touching of a person under 18 by a person in three circumstances: if he or she is in a "position of trust or authority" towards the youth, if the youth is in a "relationship of dependency" with him or her, or if the relationship is "exploitative". The term "position of trust or authority" is not defined in the Code but the courts have ruled that parents, teachers, and medical professionals hold a position of trust or authority towards youth they care for or teach.

-- So here is where I was saying that so long as you are not a teacher, doctor examining a patient, or an uncle/parent.


-- However, I now see what you are saying about it being open to interpretation as far as exploitative, and judge having full control.


For determining whether or not a relationship is "exploitative", s. 153 (1.2) of the Code provides that a judge can consider how old the youth is, the difference in ages between the partners, how the relationship evolved, and the degree of control or influence that the older partner has over the youth.


yeah, you're right..this sucks! The judge can easily rule that anyone older than 5 years with black hair, and over 5 feet tall is being exploitative based on his mood that day, and you are fucked!

Better stick to 18 year olds to play it safe.

Mixx
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High School Girls in Colombia

Quote: (06-22-2011 03:26 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Resuming you guys discussion: If you look good, you approach, you are a very social person, you know how to escalate and create the physical contact, you will fuck a lot, simple. You dont need to spend that much time on gaming, its not that difficult at all.

Making money is a lot better, it will give you literally anything. Torontokid think about money while you still young, money is not even for the bitches, its for the freedom. And it brings a whole new package..fuck..its all about the paper..mob style

Yeah man, Iagree money is huge for a person and Im already thinking about that. Its just that i think you shouldnt rely on it for bangs other than for things like logistics. Im trying to build both game and money, as money allows for freedom and teavel
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High School Girls in Colombia

Quote: (06-22-2011 05:58 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

yeah, you're right..this sucks! The judge can easily rule that anyone older than 5 years with black hair, and over 5 feet tall is being exploitative based on his mood that day, and you are fucked!

Better stick to 18 year olds to play it safe.

Mixx

Yep, I edited my post to add those lines from the criminal code as well.

It's not an automatic offence, but if the girl decides to cause trouble or the parents get wind of the relationship and make a complaint, then I don't want to be the one who is out there testing a judge's interpretation of what is an exploitative relationship.

But, here's another point that is more relevant to you. As a resident of Florida and a citizen of the US, the age of consent of your state follows you where ever you go. If it is 18 in your state, it doesn't matter what it is in where ever you travel, you have to abide by the laws of your state.
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