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How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?
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How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

pbs has recently aired a mini series on this and would make anyone believe it is a huge issue going on in everyone's back yard. I like pbs but they have been posting the typical feminism, women's rights stuff p for a while so I do not know how much they stretched the truth to sway viewers. Has anyone looked into this to see if it is a legit issue or another rape type boogey man

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#2

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Near and around the coastal cities it's an issue.

Usually around organized crime foreign to the US.
Think of the Russian mob or the Asian gangsters bringing girls from their home country to work hookers or in massage parlors.
The issue of human trafficking is a larger problem in 2nd and third world countries. The less opportunities for women to earn a living a legit way the more likely they fall into a trap believing that some guy can make them a "model in America".

Also keep in mind that the countries it originates in aren't solving the problem.
Everyone has heard about Thailand and it's "issues" with the sex trade but Thailand isn't really interested in solving it because they have more problems than they know what to deal with.

There is a big difference between human trafficking and the sex trade.
The links you posted conflate the 2 into being the same thing (Not unlike feminists who say sexual assault is the same as rape, when in reality they are very different).

Not to say it doesn't happen because we all know it does but more along the lines of some girl who is down on her luck and chooses to do it on her own is being counted as a victim of human trafficking.

There are plenty of girls in the US who choose the sex trade to make a living because that's the only way they can.
Is it right?
That's not for me to say, i haven't walked in her shoes before.
We've all known girls who've done "something" for drugs or booze back in high school.
The law says they are victims but in reality they were OK with the exchange of goods and services.





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#3

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I hate traffic, I get jammed up anytime I try to go anywhere between 2 and 7 these days.
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#4

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

It's literally non-existent and serves only to attract attention and money. Hysterical newspaper and NGO headlines often mention astronomical numbers like "50 000 trafficked underage prostitutes following the SuperBowl and sports events and conferences" and simultaneously proclaim 20 different cities and states to be "top trafficking hubs", but the police and FBI investigations that follow on a massive scale uncover no more than 3 actual victims, if even that.

"Human trafficking", at least in developed western countries, is just a giant scam.

Read more here:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-30118-...#pid654512

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#5

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I was working for a US Government department when this theme started. All of a sudden, people started running around trying to find "human trafficking" all around the world.

Of course, a whole bunch of NGOs and non-profits sprang up to help the government - for a fee.

This is a good article on the subject:

Militarized humanitarianism meets carcerial feminism: the politics of sex, rights and freedom in contemporary antitrafficking campaigns

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Over the past decade, abolitionist feminist and evangelical Christian activists have directed increasing attention toward the “traffic in women” as a dangerous manifestation of global gender inequalities. Despite renowned disagreements around the politics of sex and gender, these groups have come together to advocate for harsher penalties against traffickers, prostitutes’ customers, and nations deemed to be taking insufficient steps to stem the flow of trafficked women. In this essay, I argue that what has served to unite this coalition of "strange bedfellows" is not simply an underlying commitment to conservative ideals of sexuality, as previous commentators have offered, but an equally significant commitment to carceral paradigms of justice and to militarized humanitarianism as the preeminent mode of engagement by the state. I draw upon my ongoing ethnographic research with feminist and evangelical antitrafficking movement leaders to argue that the alliance that has been so efficacious in framing contemporary antitrafficking politics is the product of two historically unique and intersecting trends: a rightward shift on the part of many mainstream feminists and other secular liberals away from a redistributive model of justice and toward a politics of incarceration, coincident with a leftward sweep on the part of many younger evangelicals toward a globally oriented social justice theology. In the final section of this essay, I consider the resilience of these trends given a newly installed and more progressive Obama administration, positing that they are likely to continue even as the terrain of militarized humanitarian action shifts in accordance with new sets of geopolitical interests.

Full article here (pdf)
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#6

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

of course they feel that arresting the Johns is the right thing to do, God forbid a guy wants to bust one and go back home

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/...ostitution
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How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 02:46 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

"Human trafficking", at least in developed western countries, is just a giant scam.

Read more here:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-30118-...#pid654512

This.

"Human trafficking" is the modern-day rebrand of the "white slavery" panic.

This hysteria has been going on for over 100 years:

http://reason.com/archives/2008/03/13/th...very-panic

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In 1907 a group of evangelicals visited Chicago’s Everleigh Club brothel, where they handed out leaflets that said, “No ‘white slave’ need remain in slavery in this State of Abraham Lincoln who made the black slaves free.” According to the Illinois poet Edgar Lee Masters, an Everleigh Club regular, “the girls laughed in their faces.”

How many women are actually "trafficked" - i.e. forced to become prostitutes and transported to the West against their will? Very, very few as far as we can tell:

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The UK’s biggest ever investigation of sex trafficking failed to find a single person who had forced anybody into prostitution in spite of hundreds of raids on sex workers in a six-month campaign by government departments, specialist agencies and every police force in the country.

The failure has been disclosed by a Guardian investigation which also suggests that the scale of and nature of sex trafficking into the UK has been exaggerated by politicians and media.

Current and former ministers have claimed that thousands of women have been imported into the UK and forced to work as sex slaves, but most of these statements were either based on distortions of quoted sources or fabrications without any source at all.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/...-research/

We're really no different at heart from medieval societies, you see. We think we're more sophisticated, but we're not. Our technology has gotten better, but we're no less gullible or less prone to believing black legends.

In the Middle Ages people were convinced witches were real and caused otherwise inexplicable things like crop blights, animal sickness, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Serious, learned men - judges and doctors of the Church and even kings - devised scientific means of finding witches and putting an end to their witchy terror.

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We've never stopped hunting witches. We just changed their name over the years - satanic cults, fraternity rapists, human traffickers...

And sometimes these things exist in the real world. There really were people in the Middle Ages who believed they were witches and had a pact with Satan.

But they're far rarer than we want to believe. We like to imagine that pure Good and pure Evil exist in the world, but they rarely do. Life is frustratingly more complicated than that.

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So, "human trafficking". No, it is not a widespread problem. The vast majority of hookers do it because they want to make money.

When you think about it from a business perspective, there's no need to force women into prostitution and transport them to other countries against their will - where you will constantly have to worry about them running off and calling the police - when there are so many women who will sell their bodies willingly.

But this version of witch hunting is a feminist moral panic, so it's remarkably resistant to facts and logic.
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#8

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

There are some real consequences to this moral panic, though.

Here's a story about a 47 year old guy who is probably going to get 20 years, because of the new laws and harsh sentencing guidelines, because he was convicted of "human trafficking" in addition to fucking a 15 year old prostitute:

NH National Guard Lieutenant Colonel convicted of child sex trafficking

This is a family man with no criminal record. Yes, he was wrong. But 20 years?
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#9

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I really can't see it being that much of a problem in the USA.

When I was in Pennsylvania there were local girls coming to the hotel when we got hotshot and offering their services to the crew for dirt cheap. It would be hard to compete.

I guess maybe high end girls for richer clientele.
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#10

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I see clear lines are being ignored here. Human trafficking and the sex trade do have overlaps. The same way the drugs trade has overlaps with the sex trade.

When the supply cannot meet demand the suppliers go out and get it. Little girls, boys and young women? There are networks out there to get these sort of things.

Even though feminists and government lackeys are being hysterical, remember that in order to get huge contracts these people need to make a case. The more hysteria the better. The same goes for rape hysteria on campus.

Human trafficking is real, don't be fooled into believing it does not exist because a bunch of feminists have hijacked it.
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#11

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

The problem doesn't even really exist in bumfuck villages of developing countries in Asia, for example. Girls from those areas, if at all attractive, would rather spread their legs and make some decent bucks than bend over head down arse up 12 hours a day on a rice paddy.

They'd be even happier making more money in richer countries.
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#12

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I think most of the "moral panic" consists of blue-pillers panicking at the thought of sex being something women use for leverage.
And women panicking at the thought of being found out.
So they collaborate in looking for a scapegoat that will leave their constructed world intact.
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#13

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 07:37 AM)dispenser Wrote:  

I think most of the "moral panic" consists of blue-pillers panicking at the thought of sex being something women use for leverage.
And women panicking at the thought of being found out.
So they collaborate in looking for a scapegoat that will leave their constructed world intact.

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#14

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I agree with the other posters that "human trafficking" is another scam. Their intent is to link "human trafficking" to prostitution and eventually make it into a more serious crime. I saw a show on MSNBC which showed undercover raids of massage parlors in Florida. The police would arrest the man in an undercover operation, and then a female reporter would appear to talk to the man. The man would say how ashamed he was and then the understanding female reporter would give him a lecture pointing out to him how he was involved in human trafficking. It seems that the religious right is uniting with the radical left in America to demonize men and shame them for their needs. Now, if some poor guy goes to get a happy ending he will end up with being charged with a felony. This is really tipping to the insanity point. They don't do this in Germany. It's time for normal heterosexual men to move out of America and stop feeding the monster.

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#15

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Just because you aren't exposed to the underworld doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Would you be surprised that there is also a market for trading human body parts

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#16

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:34 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Just because you aren't exposed to the underworld doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Would you be surprised that there is also a market for trading human body parts

Prove that it exists in the US to any significant degree.

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#17

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:30 AM)Sherman Wrote:  

I agree with the other posters that "human trafficking" is another scam. Their intent is to link "human trafficking" to prostitution and eventually make it into a more serious crime. I saw a show on MSNBC which showed undercover raids of massage parlors in Florida. The police would arrest the man in an undercover operation, and then a female reporter would appear to talk to the man. The man would say how ashamed he was and then the understanding female reporter would give him a lecture pointing out to him how he was involved in human trafficking. It seems that the religious right is uniting with the radical left in America to demonize men and shame them for their needs. Now, if some poor guy goes to get a happy ending he will end up with being charged with a felony. This is really tipping to the insanity point. They don't do this in Germany. It's time for normal heterosexual men to move out of America and stop feeding the monster.

It's time to stop damselling sex workers.

They aren't helpless victims, they're women who have chosen to make money in the oldest profession in the world.

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How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:44 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:34 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Just because you aren't exposed to the underworld doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Would you be surprised that there is also a market for trading human body parts

Prove that it exists in the US to any significant degree.

I know a guy who worked in a hospital whose job it was to scrape the flesh of the bones of cadavers. They then would then sell them to companies for whatever reason.
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How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:56 AM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:44 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:34 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Just because you aren't exposed to the underworld doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Would you be surprised that there is also a market for trading human body parts

Prove that it exists in the US to any significant degree.

I know a guy who worked in a hospital whose job it was to scrape the flesh of the bones of cadavers. They then would then sell them to companies for whatever reason.

I was talking about human trafficking. But yes, that sounds like a bunch of BS too unless they were being sold to medical companies.

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#20

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Its to easy to be misled. I am short for time but human trafficking is the largest black market operation aside from drugs. Human trafficking is intertwined with selx trafficking a s immigratiom polcieis which shift evrey few years to cater to the demands of the market. Both the FBI ams CIA have both been busted smuggeling children. In the 1970s it blew up that a child smugheling ring of stealing young boys for sex work had ties all the way to the white house. It is far from a small issue, it is just hard to notice as the government actively likes to keep it quiet.

I would have to dig up my notes on the subject. I will try to give more detail but I do remember having a longer post on this subject in another thread.
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#21

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

I think there absolutely is human trafficking that goes on, but it is exaggerated, at least in the USA. But it doesn't happen for the reasons feminists think it does.
It happens because of stupid laws.
People want what they want. It is better to legalize and regulate.
Black markets = violence (there are no legally enforceable contracts) and poor quality control (no oversight).
Legalize prostitution and all drugs federally, have hookers pay taxes and get regular health tests, have drugs tested for purity and potency by the FDA.

Also, there is a big big difference between the human trafficking that happens in the USA (relatively mild, usually women at least somewhat willing and handled by Asian, Mexican, and Russian organized crime) and what goes on in India (fucking 12 year olds sold by their parents to gangs or bought from orphanages by gangs which then traffic them to brothels where they work in horrible conditions).

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#22

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

It happens. Federal cops raided the Motor City Mink a few years back, who had a sex trafficking ring with underage hookers around the Midwest. It's impossible to tell how common it is, however - like most feminist causes, it's incapable of accurate measurement. Statistics match the claim? Proof it exists. Statistics WAY lower than the claim? Proof it's underreported, because we already know it exists.
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#23

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 10:01 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:56 AM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:44 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:34 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Just because you aren't exposed to the underworld doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Would you be surprised that there is also a market for trading human body parts

Prove that it exists in the US to any significant degree.

I know a guy who worked in a hospital whose job it was to scrape the flesh of the bones of cadavers. They then would then sell them to companies for whatever reason.

I was talking about human trafficking. But yes, that sounds like a bunch of BS too unless they were being sold to medical companies.

I recently had some particulate bone putty put into my tooth socket after the tooth got infected and had to be pulled. It's real bone, so this is probably where it came from.

As for human trafficking, it's not just sex trafficking. Labor trafficking, almost exclusively of people without papers, is much more common than sex trafficking in the US. When someone in that situation is working and can't leave, maybe isn't being paid, that's considered trafficking. There's no need to actually transport people anywhere for it to fall under the definition of trafficking.

And when the media spouts headlines that there are going to be 100 times as many prostitutes around for the Super Bowl or whatever, they're just trolling for readership and attention. That's not the case, as the same people are there all along, and I know some human trafficking organizations explicitly try to combat this message.

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#24

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:44 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2015 09:34 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Just because you aren't exposed to the underworld doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Would you be surprised that there is also a market for trading human body parts

Prove that it exists in the US to any significant degree.

Well no one can personally prove it.
But theres a lot of evidence and suspicion on body harvesting.. It always gets covered up though

The most recent is which is coming up this month.






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and
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/07/23...-Officials
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Just in through MSNBC at least 20 arrested including the mayors of Seacaucus and Hoboken. Preliminary reports also state a human organ transplant ring and money laundering outfit attached to the crime.

Reporting is also out showing several Rabbis being arrested.








Aftee the earthquakes in Haiti.. even their president acknowledged that the people were being taken advantage of for humans and organs.
A kid gives adopted off the record from one of these countries.. taken to america or europe and never seen again




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#25

How much of a problem is human trafficking in the US?

It does happen, this happened in a friend's apartment complex. A couple of viet girls were brought in and pimped out by a woman and some dudes.

http://cases.justia.com/texas/fifth-cour...1414661061

Also, bitches get told by dudes that they're going to get wifed up so they go to the US only to be pimped out. That happens a lot in Latin American towns such as tepoztlan in Puebla.

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