[MMX2010]

I'm asking this on behalf of another man, so I apologize for any awkwardness. The man is 28, has good success with women, but is brand new to game; she is a huge-breasted, 21-year old feminist 8+. They've never met, and he's trying to get her to agree to a date.

She begins: "I don't have any Super Bowl plans."

He replies: "I don't watch it, but I have something planned with friends. So do you want to have dinner with me next weekend?"

She replies: "It's a bit far off."

He replies: (following my advice) "You're right. I'll message you on Friday if nothing better comes along. "

She replies: ?

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1. Was the text I suggested good game?

2. Since she didn't reply emotionally, I told him to continue engaging - but only occasionally. I suggested a link to a youtube video or article he finds funny, just to see if she also finds it funny. But, most importantly, he shouldn't ask her out before Friday because he promised that he wouldn't. Is this a good idea?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

[redonion]

Here's my advice.

I think his original response is weak. Unless your buddy is busy every day, it would be better to plan something sooner than a full week off. More importantly, dinner dates - especially for first dates - are a bad idea (much has been written on this). I would have just kept it simple with something like "Lets grab drinks Tuesday, u free?"

I'm not a huge fan of your response for a few reasons.
1) Immediately backing down by saying "you're right" and proposing something new. At this point I probably would have just told her that my week was busier than normal and I didn't have much free time. You want to always be leading.
2) I get what you're trying to do with the "if nothing better comes along" line, but it definitely comes off as too cocky and transparent. Sure, girls are gonna be more attracted to a guy if she knows he can easily pull new tail, but you gotta be subtle about it. No girl wants to be told that she's a second option, but it's okay if those thoughts creep into her mind if she knows you live an interesting, attractive lifestyle.


At this point he's probably not in good shape. I'd honestly just forget the whole thing happened and try to start over in a day or two, keeping it simple like I wrote above.

[MMX2010]

I know that dinner dates are a bad idea, but I think his case is a special exception. He goes to the restaurant that his parents own, but he never tells his dates that he owns the restaurant. So he orders lots of drinks, some food, goes to the bathroom, and says, "Let's go..." They ask, "What about the check?" He replies, "Oh that? I already got it."

Thanks very much for your other advice; I'll forward him this thread.


Edited to add: What's the best possible reply to her "?" text?

[Kissinger2014]

That is a huge cocky-funny statement to give over text message. Most women (hell, most men) would not take that message well. Two options (for your friend):
1. Just call. Play off the earlier text message (don't necessarily apologize, but say it was joke, and then go off to say explain why next weekend, with a little comfort talk build it.
2. Text with something along the lines that the earlier text was a joke.

[Wahawahwah]

over the top.

always remember, especially for girls who arent yet invested in you, Brevity is the soul of wit

Sure, rare displays of passion and verbiose texts work wonders, but by and large, one is better of sticking to less than more.

also, sharing links and vids and 9gag posts and whatnot is better later on, unless it is dickish or serves to make a point shorter than a text would. Images are better than vids tbh.

Id suggest radio silence for now followed by a restarter text in a couple of days.