[CaptainCrazy]

Finally, banhammers sorter this stuff out. OP was definitely either a troll or someone who doesn't take responsibility for his own success.

I am jumping on a plane to Cebu in 5 hours and, unlike OP, I am going to have a fucking good time.

And so should you.

[El Chinito loco]

I didn't bother up until now because the OP was just too obvious of a troll. His conclusions were just too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

The fact of the matter is the Philippines is the only place where i've been able to go from meet & greet to lay within 1 hour on consecutive "dates." I don't even have WGF or anything.

Then the next day call up another girl to repeat and then schedule another girl for the latter half of the day and do the same.

I have noticed a trickle of trolls talking down the Philippines or Filipinas lately trying to actively dissuade people from going there. My suspicions are these are old beta white knights from other sites or they are butt hurt filipino-american types trying to cultural cock block.

[Soothesayer]

(02-03-2015 05:13 AM)dies irae Wrote:  

When I first came to Davao, I had a full beard. I remember telling a forum member that I was getting much more attention and eye contact from girls in Bangkok than in Davao, and the girls in Davao are way uglier than the girls in Bangkok. Some girls were even running away when they see me approaching them. This never happened to me anywhere else in the world. I got my bangs anyway, but I had to work much harder than I did in Bangkok and this seemed to contradict with what I read in this forum. Then one day I saw a couple of new posts in this forum saying that having a beard creates an impression that you are a Muslim and the girls from the Philippines are repulsed by that. I shaved my beard clean and started getting much better results. Sometimes little tweaks change everything. Did you try everything?

Same here. I must have talked to dozens of girls at Pinalove and CB who all said the same thing after seeing me in the flesh: that I didn't look like the guy in my pics. Reason? The g*ddamn beard. So I shave it off and lo and bold I start getting more success. I asked a few why this was. Apparently even with my pale vampiric skin they still thought "Muslim" when they looked me over.

And this wasn't a Gandalf-epic beard either. Just a two week goatee, trim and cut, neat. Nothing Muzzie about it. But those pinays love smooth skin and I'd say I'd have received a harsher reaction if I was in my sixties with it. Thank God I'm not because I'd be tempted to wear the Jeremiah Johnson look over there full-time.

[iknowexactly]

I have gotten closer and closer to ZeroFucksGivenState (I think "ZeroFucksState" is more poetic, but not as clear) since I got here, more girls in the last 4 months -- no it's 5 months!-- time passes fast when you're not being tortured--than in the last 15 years in USA.

This is partly a testament to the tolerance and good naturedness of the Filipinas, whom I've never seen willing to humiliate you like an American.
(Once I was talking to a USA girl in a group and mentioned a date, didn't even ask her, and she derisively replied with "Horny much?" in front of the group.) If you flirt with a Filipina and she doesn't like you or is not in a good mood, she just flashes you a bit of a frown and you both escape loss of face.

But my particular assets are more valued here, reliable moderate passive income, being quite Beta, and being very highly educated which means a lot more here status-wise. I also am a seriously good musician and can just pick up a guitar and sing well an excellent song written by myself.
If I could get some other thrill seekers to form a howling emo band here in Cebu it would be a wonderful train wreck.

The next stage I want to get to is to cruise around on my motorcycle, stop when I see an 8 and just park right there and cold approach right in front of her friends. I'm trying to figure out how to get the full-face motorcycle helmet off fast enough so they don't think I'm an assassin.

"I'm hope you don't think I'm rude, you looked so pretty and smart I had to talk to you." The giggling would be epic.

It would work here in the Phils, too. Maybe even in the USA, but the 500-1 odds there get a little exhausting when you're late fifties and she's twenth-three. Twenty four is my upper limit here, there's no need for me to accept higher--eighteen and nineteen year olds have willingly raw-dogged, and I've lost weight since then.

There's only three things I worry about (1) Traffic accidents (2) Staying Immigration law and AOC compliant (3) Possible irate relatives

It's like when immigrants come to America, they see the potential of how much money they can make compared to the place of origin and work their asses off.

Here's me near my gym, I've used sunscreen and hats since I was 18 because I knew these days were coming in some form.

[mindanao]

(02-03-2015 12:28 AM)Global Entry Wrote:  

Promised? By whom? You feel like someone here made you a promise? Exactly what was it? I reiterate this claim because it does seem to speak to the fact that you felt entitled to receive something, and maybe not that there was a tradeoff you needed to make, that you had to "earn" it, as difficult or easy as that may have been.

I'm not arguing with your experience, but as a 44 year old (well, 43 when I went there), who hasn't been he most conscientious about working out or fashion (I know the difference, don't always utilize), I had little problem racking up notches. Most of the girls were 19-22 years old, and in the 6-7 range in the Phils (not surprising to those on the ground), of a naturally pleasant disposition, not from wealthy families and entirely acceptable and more for physical comfort and passing the time. No relationship material among them, but the trips were worthwhile nonetheless and pretty darn cheap, even living very well.

I'm not ugly, certainly not by asian girls standards. Nor am I some model/actor type. I'm just a regular guy with projectible intelligence, confidence and well-attuned cultural sensibility. I take the time to deconstruct a culture from observation to the point where I can use that understanding to move an interaction forward in an Asian country (as Asian cultures are further from western norms, you stand out more if you don't act like a foreign barbarian). Most guys roll into a foreign country like the Phils and ignore the culture - try to westernize their interactions if they are westerners. With a combination of confidence and this cultural intelligence, I expect many guys can have a result which more closely approximates mine and less so, yours, and perhaps Onto's (he seemed to be less than satisfied with his experience as well, though Onto, please pitch in if I'm misrepresenting you).

I haven't a chiseled jawline, nor am i super-attractive. I could say the same of the vast majority of guys I met in the Phils who were enjoying themselves there. I received pretty much uninterrupted eye contact (much as I did in China). I didn't find it in the least bit hard to meet women, and the difficult more than anything else came in time management.

Did these women love me? Some of them probably liked the idea of me, or the idea of themselves with me. I never took it to the point to see if something would truly develop longterm, but that was my call, not theirs. I guess if you went there to find your true love, then you'd need to take a different tack then I took. I will tell you that the presumption is that foreigners will hit it and leave and just by debunking that with your own behavior, you'd probably go a long way towards something legitimate from an emotional standpoint. This issue doesn't just exist in the Phils, it exists throughout SE Asia and China as well.

One more question would be - what cities did you visit. I expect that areas where exotic value is highest for foreigners would yield better success. Hanging out in Greenbelt if you're not good looking/no-game, maybe not so much.

You're a fairly new poster. Posting hyperbole in clear contrast to established posters intel may be fine, but prepare to be questioned on your conclusions and to provide detailed information regarding on how you reached them. Until then, its just a troll post.

(02-02-2015 08:38 PM)Globe-Trotter Wrote:  

While I agree that foreign women are generally better than most American women, going the foreign route is not the panacea some men would have you believe.

I just returned from the Philippines a couple of days ago, and my experiences there were not what I was promised.

First of all, there is a myth that Philippine women like much older men. That is not true at all. Virtually all the young, middle class Philippine women I saw walking around in the malls were coupled up with young Philippine men. What does that tell you?
Secondly, unless you are super-attractive, with a chiseled face and strong jawline, women in the Philippines will avoid eye contact with you. They may not be arrogant and bitchy about it, like American women are. They may not have the stuck up attitude, but make no mistake about it, they will still let you know that they don't find you attractive.

So, in conclusion, if you are old and ugly in America, you will be old and ugly in the Philippines. There is no salvation in escaping to some Third World country on the other side of the planet. You cannot buy love, not even in the Philippines. You can only buy sex and pseudo-romance. If that's what you want, fine. But don't delude yourself into thinking that you can circumvent nature's paradigm by simply traveling to a non feminist country. You will be very disillusioned. I myself felt very lonely and isolated in the Philippines. It is a terrible country to meet women. You can't even make friends there. I guess MGTOW and ghosting is the only way.

Your experiences seemed to be quite decent and I am 20 years younger than you. I was intrigued by the part of your text that is bolded. What cities did you mostly experience the bolded part of the text? I am not exactly satisfied with General Santos so I will give it a shot in cities you can recommend that best fit the experience highlighted in the bold.

[mindanao]

(02-03-2015 08:50 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

I'm not believing this shit for a second.

OP says he "couldn't even make friends" in the Philippines. Bullshit.

Goes to country with some of the world's warmest people and can't talk to anyone? This never happened. Not buying it.

Unless you are severely autistic, I fail to see how you'd have trouble talking to and making friends with Filipinos. Even then the locals would probably try to drag you out of your shell.

I knew it was troll.
This is the one country in the world where i almost seems like enyone you meet can be automatic friends. Maybe it is more personal experience cuz I am a young Canadian, but in general, I find that it is impossible for almost any of these people to not be friends.

[mindanao]

I have a complaint for Davao. Anyone that stays long term here will lose their new guy status even to suposed strangers. People keep messaging saying how they saw you on San Pedro street or near the hotel. The "I saw you on XXX street" line is the most annoying line then they know you are wandering around their city a long time and I wonder if your value drops compared to a guy that is fresh arrived from Canada to Philippines. Something about the I Saw You line that really bugs the heck outta me. To the point I try to avoid walking around too much anywhere in and near San Pedro street cuz at that rate they al seem to recognise you and say they already saw you. OMg I hate that thing about being in Davao and everyone knowing you are not new!!! Anyone else feel that in Davao?

[Global Entry]

I've written extensive data sheets detailing my time in the Philippines, you can find one of them below in my signature and another if you search Boracay. Most of the damage was done in Quezon City, Makati, the Ft. and Cebu near Ayala mall. I have little doubt it would be possible elsewhere, with some adjustments, but I've not been to Mindanao. I will mention that two of the very cutest girls with whom I've connected online were GenSan girls.

Just to give a sense of quality (hehe), here is a middle of the road girl I hooked up with and brought back to my hotel within 3-4 hours of meeting - the one from near Memorial Park in Quezon that I met at a mall in North Quezon City. Only trouble I had with her was shaking her loose. Not a good bang, front or back, particularly, but certainly decent enough for a nooner.

(02-05-2015 09:44 PM)mindanao Wrote:  

(02-03-2015 12:28 AM)Global Entry Wrote:  

Promised? By whom? You feel like someone here made you a promise? Exactly what was it? I reiterate this claim because it does seem to speak to the fact that you felt entitled to receive something, and maybe not that there was a tradeoff you needed to make, that you had to "earn" it, as difficult or easy as that may have been.

I'm not arguing with your experience, but as a 44 year old (well, 43 when I went there), who hasn't been he most conscientious about working out or fashion (I know the difference, don't always utilize), I had little problem racking up notches. Most of the girls were 19-22 years old, and in the 6-7 range in the Phils (not surprising to those on the ground), of a naturally pleasant disposition, not from wealthy families and entirely acceptable and more for physical comfort and passing the time. No relationship material among them, but the trips were worthwhile nonetheless and pretty darn cheap, even living very well.

I'm not ugly, certainly not by asian girls standards. Nor am I some model/actor type. I'm just a regular guy with projectible intelligence, confidence and well-attuned cultural sensibility. I take the time to deconstruct a culture from observation to the point where I can use that understanding to move an interaction forward in an Asian country (as Asian cultures are further from western norms, you stand out more if you don't act like a foreign barbarian). Most guys roll into a foreign country like the Phils and ignore the culture - try to westernize their interactions if they are westerners. With a combination of confidence and this cultural intelligence, I expect many guys can have a result which more closely approximates mine and less so, yours, and perhaps Onto's (he seemed to be less than satisfied with his experience as well, though Onto, please pitch in if I'm misrepresenting you).

I haven't a chiseled jawline, nor am i super-attractive. I could say the same of the vast majority of guys I met in the Phils who were enjoying themselves there. I received pretty much uninterrupted eye contact (much as I did in China). I didn't find it in the least bit hard to meet women, and the difficult more than anything else came in time management.

Did these women love me? Some of them probably liked the idea of me, or the idea of themselves with me. I never took it to the point to see if something would truly develop longterm, but that was my call, not theirs. I guess if you went there to find your true love, then you'd need to take a different tack then I took. I will tell you that the presumption is that foreigners will hit it and leave and just by debunking that with your own behavior, you'd probably go a long way towards something legitimate from an emotional standpoint. This issue doesn't just exist in the Phils, it exists throughout SE Asia and China as well.

One more question would be - what cities did you visit. I expect that areas where exotic value is highest for foreigners would yield better success. Hanging out in Greenbelt if you're not good looking/no-game, maybe not so much.

You're a fairly new poster. Posting hyperbole in clear contrast to established posters intel may be fine, but prepare to be questioned on your conclusions and to provide detailed information regarding on how you reached them. Until then, its just a troll post.

(02-02-2015 08:38 PM)Globe-Trotter Wrote:  

While I agree that foreign women are generally better than most American women, going the foreign route is not the panacea some men would have you believe.

I just returned from the Philippines a couple of days ago, and my experiences there were not what I was promised.

First of all, there is a myth that Philippine women like much older men. That is not true at all. Virtually all the young, middle class Philippine women I saw walking around in the malls were coupled up with young Philippine men. What does that tell you?
Secondly, unless you are super-attractive, with a chiseled face and strong jawline, women in the Philippines will avoid eye contact with you. They may not be arrogant and bitchy about it, like American women are. They may not have the stuck up attitude, but make no mistake about it, they will still let you know that they don't find you attractive.

So, in conclusion, if you are old and ugly in America, you will be old and ugly in the Philippines. There is no salvation in escaping to some Third World country on the other side of the planet. You cannot buy love, not even in the Philippines. You can only buy sex and pseudo-romance. If that's what you want, fine. But don't delude yourself into thinking that you can circumvent nature's paradigm by simply traveling to a non feminist country. You will be very disillusioned. I myself felt very lonely and isolated in the Philippines. It is a terrible country to meet women. You can't even make friends there. I guess MGTOW and ghosting is the only way.

Your experiences seemed to be quite decent and I am 20 years younger than you. I was intrigued by the part of your text that is bolded. What cities did you mostly experience the bolded part of the text? I am not exactly satisfied with General Santos so I will give it a shot in cities you can recommend that best fit the experience highlighted in the bold.

[WanderingSoul]

Nice work, Global. I like her.

I fucking love Asian girls in white shorts with a colorful top. Something about the short white shorts, bright top, and dark(ish) skin really does it for me.

I generally don't go for dark Isaan girls, but a tiny, dark Isaan girl in white shorts/pants, cheap high heels, a bright red/orange/whatever top and a little bubble butt is enough to make me ditch almost any RCA girl for. They are the most fun, too.

[mindanao]

(02-06-2015 12:19 AM)Global Entry Wrote:  

I've written extensive data sheets detailing my time in the Philippines, you can find one of them below in my signature and another if you search Boracay. Most of the damage was done in Quezon City, Makati, the Ft. and Cebu near Ayala mall. I have little doubt it would be possible elsewhere, with some adjustments, but I've not been to Mindanao. I will mention that two of the very cutest girls with whom I've connected online were GenSan girls.

Just to give a sense of quality (hehe), here is a middle of the road girl I hooked up with and brought back to my hotel within 3-4 hours of meeting - the one from near Memorial Park in Quezon that I met at a mall in North Quezon City. Only trouble I had with her was shaking her loose. Not a good bang, front or back, particularly, but certainly decent enough for a nooner.

(02-05-2015 09:44 PM)mindanao Wrote:  

(02-03-2015 12:28 AM)Global Entry Wrote:  

Promised? By whom? You feel like someone here made you a promise? Exactly what was it? I reiterate this claim because it does seem to speak to the fact that you felt entitled to receive something, and maybe not that there was a tradeoff you needed to make, that you had to "earn" it, as difficult or easy as that may have been.

I'm not arguing with your experience, but as a 44 year old (well, 43 when I went there), who hasn't been he most conscientious about working out or fashion (I know the difference, don't always utilize), I had little problem racking up notches. Most of the girls were 19-22 years old, and in the 6-7 range in the Phils (not surprising to those on the ground), of a naturally pleasant disposition, not from wealthy families and entirely acceptable and more for physical comfort and passing the time. No relationship material among them, but the trips were worthwhile nonetheless and pretty darn cheap, even living very well.

I'm not ugly, certainly not by asian girls standards. Nor am I some model/actor type. I'm just a regular guy with projectible intelligence, confidence and well-attuned cultural sensibility. I take the time to deconstruct a culture from observation to the point where I can use that understanding to move an interaction forward in an Asian country (as Asian cultures are further from western norms, you stand out more if you don't act like a foreign barbarian). Most guys roll into a foreign country like the Phils and ignore the culture - try to westernize their interactions if they are westerners. With a combination of confidence and this cultural intelligence, I expect many guys can have a result which more closely approximates mine and less so, yours, and perhaps Onto's (he seemed to be less than satisfied with his experience as well, though Onto, please pitch in if I'm misrepresenting you).

I haven't a chiseled jawline, nor am i super-attractive. I could say the same of the vast majority of guys I met in the Phils who were enjoying themselves there. I received pretty much uninterrupted eye contact (much as I did in China). I didn't find it in the least bit hard to meet women, and the difficult more than anything else came in time management.

Did these women love me? Some of them probably liked the idea of me, or the idea of themselves with me. I never took it to the point to see if something would truly develop longterm, but that was my call, not theirs. I guess if you went there to find your true love, then you'd need to take a different tack then I took. I will tell you that the presumption is that foreigners will hit it and leave and just by debunking that with your own behavior, you'd probably go a long way towards something legitimate from an emotional standpoint. This issue doesn't just exist in the Phils, it exists throughout SE Asia and China as well.

One more question would be - what cities did you visit. I expect that areas where exotic value is highest for foreigners would yield better success. Hanging out in Greenbelt if you're not good looking/no-game, maybe not so much.

You're a fairly new poster. Posting hyperbole in clear contrast to established posters intel may be fine, but prepare to be questioned on your conclusions and to provide detailed information regarding on how you reached them. Until then, its just a troll post.

(02-02-2015 08:38 PM)Globe-Trotter Wrote:  

While I agree that foreign women are generally better than most American women, going the foreign route is not the panacea some men would have you believe.

I just returned from the Philippines a couple of days ago, and my experiences there were not what I was promised.

First of all, there is a myth that Philippine women like much older men. That is not true at all. Virtually all the young, middle class Philippine women I saw walking around in the malls were coupled up with young Philippine men. What does that tell you?
Secondly, unless you are super-attractive, with a chiseled face and strong jawline, women in the Philippines will avoid eye contact with you. They may not be arrogant and bitchy about it, like American women are. They may not have the stuck up attitude, but make no mistake about it, they will still let you know that they don't find you attractive.

So, in conclusion, if you are old and ugly in America, you will be old and ugly in the Philippines. There is no salvation in escaping to some Third World country on the other side of the planet. You cannot buy love, not even in the Philippines. You can only buy sex and pseudo-romance. If that's what you want, fine. But don't delude yourself into thinking that you can circumvent nature's paradigm by simply traveling to a non feminist country. You will be very disillusioned. I myself felt very lonely and isolated in the Philippines. It is a terrible country to meet women. You can't even make friends there. I guess MGTOW and ghosting is the only way.

Your experiences seemed to be quite decent and I am 20 years younger than you. I was intrigued by the part of your text that is bolded. What cities did you mostly experience the bolded part of the text? I am not exactly satisfied with General Santos so I will give it a shot in cities you can recommend that best fit the experience highlighted in the bold.

I gotta get my @$$ outta Mindanao and move to Makati or near SM north in QC. I know it will better than here. Here everyone is tighly family oriented. The girls here may be some of the best in Gen San, but I guess will be more 'accessible' once in the more liberated QC away from the rows and rows of fars where life is nothing other than conservative in gen San. So QC here I come!

[Global Entry]

I guess that if we meet up again I better be on my A game, as there is going to be some competition for the desired targets even in the 6-7 range. Some of those little tiny brown f-machine girls give me very bad thoughts, when I meet them. And then you hear that they're 20 and the fuse is lit.

(02-06-2015 03:53 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Nice work, Global. I like her.

I fucking love Asian girls in white shorts with a colorful top. Something about the short white shorts, bright top, and dark(ish) skin really does it for me.

I generally don't go for dark Isaan girls, but a tiny, dark Isaan girl in white shorts/pants, cheap high heels, a bright red/orange/whatever top and a little bubble butt is enough to make me ditch almost any RCA girl for. They are the most fun, too.

Don't believe the bullshit from OP. Read this

[Suits]

A friend of mine, a Christian guy, who is utterly unattractive went to the Philippines as a virgin and came back not a virgin. A girl basically got him drunk, went back to his hotel room with him and wouldn't give up until they had sex.

It went against his beliefs, but eventually he gave in.

You can get laid in the Philippines even if you are ugly and are trying to not get laid.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-07-2015 02:56 AM)Suits Wrote:  

A friend of mine, a Christian guy, who is utterly unattractive went to the Philippines as a virgin and came back not a virgin. A girl basically got him drunk, went back to his hotel room with him and wouldn't give up until they had sex.

It went against his beliefs, but eventually he gave in.

You can get laid in the Philippines even if you are ugly and are trying to not get laid.

[Cheetah]

Quote:

The next stage I want to get to is to cruise around on my motorcycle, stop when I see an 8 and just park right there and cold approach right in front of her friends. I'm trying to figure out how to get the full-face motorcycle helmet off fast enough so they don't think I'm an assassin.

[berserk]

(02-05-2015 07:36 PM)Soothesayer Wrote:  

(02-03-2015 05:13 AM)dies irae Wrote:  

When I first came to Davao, I had a full beard. I remember telling a forum member that I was getting much more attention and eye contact from girls in Bangkok than in Davao, and the girls in Davao are way uglier than the girls in Bangkok. Some girls were even running away when they see me approaching them. This never happened to me anywhere else in the world. I got my bangs anyway, but I had to work much harder than I did in Bangkok and this seemed to contradict with what I read in this forum. Then one day I saw a couple of new posts in this forum saying that having a beard creates an impression that you are a Muslim and the girls from the Philippines are repulsed by that. I shaved my beard clean and started getting much better results. Sometimes little tweaks change everything. Did you try everything?

Same here. I must have talked to dozens of girls at Pinalove and CB who all said the same thing after seeing me in the flesh: that I didn't look like the guy in my pics. Reason? The g*ddamn beard. So I shave it off and lo and bold I start getting more success. I asked a few why this was. Apparently even with my pale vampiric skin they still thought "Muslim" when they looked me over.

And this wasn't a Gandalf-epic beard either. Just a two week goatee, trim and cut, neat. Nothing Muzzie about it. But those pinays love smooth skin and I'd say I'd have received a harsher reaction if I was in my sixties with it. Thank God I'm not because I'd be tempted to wear the Jeremiah Johnson look over there full-time.

Probably had more to do with OPs attitude than his beard, but yeah it's really dumb not to change these small things which make a big difference for how attractive you're perceived by SEA girls. I've never heard a SEA girl say she liked beards. Same with putting on a nice shirt, nice shoes unless you're teen age. Lose some weight instead of bulking up. Be less serious, smile more. Small adjustments that at least show you're not socially clueless as to not understand who you're dealing with. Also helps to actually be able to make some friends, local or foreign. Being alone is generally considered strange in all SEA countries, where no one ever does anything by themselves. To recap: walking around alone, slovenly dressed, frown, beard, already behind on points before even making an approach.

[Cheetah]

Quote:

Same here. I must have talked to dozens of girls at Pinalove and CB who all said the same thing after seeing me in the flesh: that I didn't look like the guy in my pics. Reason? The g*ddamn beard. So I shave it off and lo and bold I start getting more success. I asked a few why this was. Apparently even with my pale vampiric skin they still thought "Muslim" when they looked me over.

How are beards perceived in muslim SEA countries such as Indonesia?

[Onto]

I (44 yrs old, 5'8", bald, somewhat overweight but muscular) can understand how a person may be let-down, especially if they are looking for passion and true love in a short amount of time. Women are going to be both curious and weary of foreigners so it can take work to build up the comfort necessary for the kind of passion/love the OP was looking for. Or just a matter of meeting a person with instant chemistry, but you have to approach, do online dating and all the rest and it's a lot of work.

As Global Entry pointed out I did have my mis-adventures there and also a couple meltdowns, but in the end everything came together and actually started to soar. For me it took some time to adjust, especially with it being my first trip abroad solo, and I did bring my Western mindset with me too.

I never wrote my Davao Part II post, and I probably should before I forget it all.

However, just as things were getting very good for me (after 2 months), I decided to pack-up and head back to NY. Why? Especially when I could've stayed many more months and already "paid" for a 6 month visa extension! I was certainly tired of the malls and the heat, but I also didn't have anything "to do". If I had some kind of interesting work or was raising a family, that would've helped.

Yet I also wonder if deep down I was afraid if I stayed longer I would indeed find what I was looking for, and maybe I'm not ready for that. I don't know, but I do know I'll be back and I'll do it all a bit differently.

What irks me about the OP is that he didn't talk about who he was or his detailed experiences. He just made some blanket statement. Anyone can do that, but not anyone can put in the time and effort to really go in-depth about who they are, what they are looking for, how they are going about it, and what their experience was. The forum welcome's different viewpoints so long as it's detailed and is coming from a place of genuineness.

[iknowexactly]

(02-07-2015 12:35 PM)Onto Wrote:  

I (44 yrs old, 5'8", bald, somewhat overweight but muscular) can understand how a person may be let-down, especially if they are looking for passion and true love in a short amount of time.
...

However, just as things were getting very good for me (after 2 months), I decided to pack-up and head back to NY. Why? Especially when I could've stayed many more months and already "paid" for a 6 month visa extension! I was certainly tired of the malls and the heat, but I also didn't have anything "to do". If I had some kind of interesting work or was raising a family, that would've helped.

Yet I also wonder if deep down I was afraid if I stayed longer I would indeed find what I was looking for, and maybe I'm not ready for that. I don't know, but I do know I'll be back and I'll do it all a bit differently.

Good honesty in the post--but I'm wondering if you are seriously visualizing the inflated self-evaluation of American women you'll face when you go back.At forty-four If you are aggressive, you can still get cute 27 year-olds in the States and that's not bad at all-- but in my opinion that changes--quite a lot- once they hear the first digit in your age is a "5".

I am in a little bit in the same situation but over 10 years older and really facing biological extinction if I don't have a kid soon-- it might already be too late, who knows. I'm going to get my sperm tested soon to see what field I'm playing on.

Someone else posted here that when you get married you exchange one set of problems for another. I've got girls now that are ready any time any where to have a kid with me-- as in RIGHT NOW-- and all of a sudden you realize -- "Yeah you SAID you wanted that when it was fucking impossible in Lovedesert America, but what if you really get it?"

But the charming openness and spontaneity of the Filipinos is inextricably part of the intellectually boring nature of the Philippines. It's just not a place for any serious collaborative intellectual endeavor. It's OK for finishing things-- I'm mixing albums, finishing old half-written songs, editing movies I've shot-- but I don't think it's realistic to find collaborators. Maybe I'm wrong, I should troll film schools.

I'm actually looking at moving back into the belly of the beast -- LA-- because the talent pool ( creatively, not woman wise) is immense there.
I could move back on my own, but I trudged in the tundra of sexual loneliness for decades in the USA-- not an option. Being alone all the time is such poison to me in everyday life....stumbling around in the morning when your cheerful nurturing wife should be getting you coffee and making sure your mood is up....

So right now my impulse is, I want to bring one back, which I've previously argued against. One thing about being late 50s is the State harassment and child support can only go on for so long....they can only kill me once...

...To be continued...

[MongolianAbroad]

(02-05-2015 09:01 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

The next stage I want to get to is to cruise around on my motorcycle, stop when I see an 8 and just park right there and cold approach right in front of her friends. I'm trying to figure out how to get the full-face motorcycle helmet off fast enough so they don't think I'm an assassin.

"I'm hope you don't think I'm rude, you looked so pretty and smart I had to talk to you." The giggling would be epic.

Now we're talking.

IKE, representing for the RVF!

[iknowexactly]

(02-07-2015 10:33 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

Now we're talking.

IKE, representing for the RVF!

Thanks!

ZeroFucksState is the new Zen Enlightenment.

[Malo]

(02-07-2015 02:56 AM)Suits Wrote:  

A friend of mine, a Christian guy, who is utterly unattractive went to the Philippines as a virgin and came back not a virgin. A girl basically got him drunk, went back to his hotel room with him and wouldn't give up until they had sex.

It went against his beliefs, but eventually he gave in.

You can get laid in the Philippines even if you are ugly and are trying to not get laid.

It can happen but you can't walk around expecting it to happen! You must put in the effort no matter how little the effort is! You can't come in with an attitude of "I'll just breathe and girls will come to me"! That's nuts!

Some people try to get back to the womb, dream of getting mommy back that loves them without reservation just because they exist.

And when it doesn't work (duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) they join a cult of bitter men like mgtow or go around shooting people!!

Snap out of it!! Life doesn't give for free it only gives back!! Go to PI and you'll get a ton more bang for your buck but if you insist of being a total douchebag then you'll be miserable even if you were the last cock available on the planet!!

[reekayinasia]

(02-03-2015 06:44 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(02-03-2015 06:29 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

I've watched a few of this guy's YouTube videos. Picture is apparently with his current girlfriend. He's over 50, maybe 5'5", has a paunch and is non-white (he could pass for Filipino although he's probably Hispanic). He's not wealthy and dresses like a slob. What kind of women do you think he'd get in the States? In the Philippines he's able to date cute girls 25 years younger.

He has some kind of Game, looks fine for his age, he is basically an American regardless of his heritage - for Filipino standards he is solid upper middle class - essentially he almost retired there - also he expands to provider Game. If you do that then other factors come to play with women - you don't need to be the hottest bastard and get the pussy gushing - she will marry you and find you reasonably attractive. Also note his creative business model - he already has 9 patrons dishing out 65$/month each to finance his lifestyle - hehe. It's not much, but it goes much further there. https://www.patreon.com/reekay

Here he meets the parents - dad of his girl being around his age, but looks more used. Also you note that the parents don't mind, since the guy wants a relationship and is no pump-and-dump schemer. If the guy tried running short-term tingle-focused r-selected Game, then it would be more difficult. Your points are valid though - it's very very very unlikely that he would get any girl as hot as that in the US - neither short-term nor long-term.

A friend of mine mentioned that I'd been mentioned here so I figured I'd give some more background to the situation in the PH.

I've lived in the PH for 6 years now. Had 3 major, meaningful relationships. (2 of which were for over 2 years each.) The g/f in the video here is Lyn. An amazing, wonderful woman (age 21 when we met, 25 now) who is as true-blue a woman a man could ever want or hope to meet in a lifetime. However, I decided to part ways and she then found a good-guy she's been happy with the last 2 years.

In response to other items, I see myself as an American. 3rd generation American, in fact. (a 'mexican-american is a person who comes from mexico and 'gains' citizenship) But yes, in the PH, we 'foreigners' are seen as good-providers with a stable income. What kind of women would I get in the States? Very simple; the kind of women I do not want.

I don't want a woman my age who comes with massive emotional baggage and a list of demands so that I can have the opportunity to treat her as my 'queen'. I don't want a woman who says 'No' more than 'Yes' when it comes to sex.

Could I get a younger, hot woman in the USA, California to be precise. It would take a LOT of searching but I could eventually find one. But she'd still be infected with a western mindset that doesn't come close to the wonderful playfulness and joy I easily find with Filipinas. So.. 'american woman.. get away from me'. (to quote lenny kravitz)

As for 'game', I'm not as rich as some of my buddies so I've always had to rely on this thing called, 'Personality'. It's amazing what comes your way when you can make a woman smile, laugh and feel good about herself and her goals. I've dated 2 women in the PH, one of them for over 3 years and she was was wealthy enough to give me her Mercedes for a year while flying to USA every 3 months to spend time with me. (not your average filipina) The last wealthy Filipina I dated, about 2 months ago, is a multi-millionaire (in USD, not pesos), who owns her own resort, string of homes, travel agencies and an import/export business that sells everything from jewelry to motorcycle internationally.

I mention this because not every Filipina is out for our money and not every Filipina is poor and desperate. Many are, true. But the ones who have their own money, what they want from a man is a genuine personality. They already have money.

The Patreon site has 2 focuses;
Helping guys find a good woman among all the bad ones. (Marriage Minded Expats)
Helping guys stay out of trouble being a 'chixboy'. (Committed Bachelors)

It's grown steadily over the last year.

Finally, with regard to the OP on the PH not being what he'd expected...

It doesn't get any easier than the PH. If a guy can't find a solid or flippant relationship in the PH, it's his fault. There are good-girls and bad-girls by the millions there. And they are predisposed to dating older expats. Can't ask for more than that.

I was asked to consult a friend-of-a-friend in Cebu, so I met with him over dinner. I'll admit, the guy was more 'gwapo' than I am. He worked out, blue eyes, blondish hair.. exactly what any Filipina would hope for. Yet he'd spent 3 weeks in various parts of the PH and bemoaned that he STILL hadn't gotten any leads to having a date. (WTH !!!!!!)

After hearing him go on for awhile about how either the women he saw, "weren't his type", "didn't seem friendly enough", "might have a b/f", etc., I finally asked him, "How many Filipinas have you chatted and asked for their phone number?

"None."

The problem wasn't a lack of Filipinas. The problem was not that they are not approachable. The problem is that his own head was cock-blocking him from doing what's needed; Get her phone number... Make the date.

I am NOT exaggerating when I say I've seen guys dragging along an oxygen tank with a hot Filipina on their arm. Anybody... Any-body can find a Filipina for a long or short relationship in the PH. Truly, any guy can do it if he is willing to walk up to a Filipina and say, "Hi." and then chat her up. Problem is, some guys freeze up like they did back home and talk themselves out of talking to her.

So, my position after 3 great relationships and (many) short-term flings between relationships is that if a guy as homely as myself can have constant female companionship in the PH, steadily for 6 years... the only guys not able to do that are in fact the guys not getting their game together.

But for anybody willing to break the ice with these women, the PH has only the potential problem of having too-many women to manage in a week.

[Shemp]

I was a lurker here way before I was a member, but I never saw this thread before. OP is not a troll, but he is a strange bird. I recognized him immediately from a long thread in another forum where I interacted with him. My final conclusion from that interaction was that the guy is a natural loner (as I am, so I saw something of myself in him), has been masturbating so long and to such a rich fantasy life that he is no longer able to feel normal desire for real sex with real women, but this masturbatory fantasy existence was never fully satisfying and he always felt that something was missing in his life, and things finally reached a crisis around age 40. He tried P4P, but that was also unsatisfying. Loner plus constant masturbation turned him into an extreme narcissist, and what he really was seeking in the Philippines was validation. He has good social skills and is able to approach in the business world, but can't approach women for sex because that would defeat the goal of validation. What he wanted was, indeed, something like women lined up at the airport kneeling with their mouths open, as someone wrote, because only something like that can satisfy his extreme narcissist need for validation.

I suspect there will be many more guys like him in the future. And their female counterparts. All of them victims of a world that denigrates messy, dirty, limited physical reality, and especially messy real life sex, in favor of pristine fantasy existence. It's always been possible to live a fantasy existence, but only a few could manage it back when you had to create your own fantasy world using imagination. But now we have computers, electronic games, online porn, social media, etc. Remains to be seen how many will become entrapped in electronic fantasy existence and develop extreme narcissism like the OP.

Feel bad about posting right after and possibly obscuring reekayinasia's very useful post right before me, so if you didn't read that, please scroll up.

[Vladimir Poontang]

Hey Reekay! Good to see you here. Big fan.

Here's Reekay's youtube channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/enricosuave263/videos

A lot of good stuff there.

[purple18]

I'm only a couple days in here, but I could much more easily score a quality date with a born woman (ladyboys EVERYWHERE) in the USA than I can in Cebu.

Mid 30s, and I slay on Bumble/Tinder back home with quality women a decade younger than me, easily. More than I could possibly have time for. Always have had pretty girlfriends. I'm relatively wealthy, tall, and classically attractive. I can get dozens of first messages in a day on Bumble. I thought it would be absurd coming here, but I can't even find people with vaginas here without paying. Could have infinite dates with ladyboys. 0/10 so far. It's a hit to the ol' ego for sure which was pretty strong based on my western world success.

Is everyone in the Philippines born a man? Should I get over the ladyboy thing and embrace the fact I can have basically infinite prostate orgasms? (a whole other topic very, very, VERY, VERY!!!!!!!!(!!!++++!!!+!+!) much worth discussing)