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Game Situation (I think) - Input needed
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Game Situation (I think) - Input needed

Hey guys,

A bit of a newb to all this red pill stuff, but in the limited time that I have been applying it - holy crap - it has really been life changing and for that I thank you all...

However, I have a situation upcoming and was looking for some advice...

Anyway, here is the situation. I have a date on Saturday....

Me: 39, 6'4" 230 athletic physique , professional male, not married, no kids.

Her: 37, divorced 2.5 years, w/ a 5 y.o. kid. ( I know the strictures on ROK about divorced moms, but a) she is not the only girl I am talking to and b) she is outside of the mom angle, a really cool girl and I enjoy talking and spending time with her...probably the most of all the 3 girls I am currently talking to right now)

The one wrinkle: she shares custody so I only get to see her every other weekend, because we have not progressed to the point where she would want to introduce me to her kid...

Anyway, we have been talking/hanging out since end of October, we have been out 5 times

I basically read "Bang" and used Roosh style tactics, to game her into bed by the end of the fourth date (which happened to be Christmas day)

Two days before Xmas she bought us tickets to go to a play which is happening tomorrow the 24th (super future projection - so I figured she really liked me)

The problem: I went soft about five minutes into banging her! I tried a total of 3 times that night.. all three times same result - I'd go like five minutes or so, then went soft... I kind of freaked out and apologized - but I was really fucking embarrased.

Anyway, we met for lunch a few days later and she told me it was cool and that there was no problem; but have not gone out since - she is a nurse and worked NYE so I couldn't see her then and the next weekend that she didn't have with her kid I couldn't hang out with her as I had a friend in town and had already made plans.

Anyway, the texting was cool back and forth (I initiate and she initiates pretty equally) except that I have noticed that it's kind been kind of fizzling out over the last two weeks; I got busy at work and didn't text her for a week - but then again she didn't initiate either.

Last week, I gave her a call (about 9:45) and she texted me back the next morning saying she was at work, but she got my call and apologized for not calling back but said she was lying with her daughter in bed trying to get her to sleep and dozed off...no call back...no further contact from my end, either....I called her again this Tuesday (6 days after first call), and again I got the VM and the text back within 10 mins saying she was at work...again no call back.

I texted her on Wednesday to say I was going to pick her up this Sat at 6 to go to the show. She texted right back saying Yes, that sounds good and that she had printed the tickets at work that day (she bought them)

So...basically...I have no idea wtf is going on? Either:

1. She's going to dump me...and if so, why not just tell me and save the awkwardness?

2. I'm still in the game and it was just a hiccup and this is a chance to reconnect and game as usual... but if she's pissed at me for some reason and going to be all distant/surly - why would I want to deal with that shit? - has all this been a massive shit test?

So...do I play it cool and see what happens and not give a fuck or if she acts all distant do I just call her on her b.s.?

Let me know if you need any other information and I really appreciate any advice...just a newb looking to learn/ refine his game...and I really want a chance to redeem myself in bed with this girl....

THANK YOU!
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Game Situation (I think) - Input needed

Quote: (01-23-2015 12:59 PM)von_doom Wrote:  

Hey guys,

A bit of a newb to all this red pill stuff, but in the limited time that I have been applying it - holy crap - it has really been life changing and for that I thank you all...

However, I have a situation upcoming and was looking for some advice...

Anyway, here is the situation. I have a date on Saturday....

Me: 39, 6'4" 230 athletic physique , professional male, not married, no kids.

Her: 37, divorced 2.5 years, w/ a 5 y.o. kid. ( I know the strictures on ROK about divorced moms, but a) she is not the only girl I am talking to and b) she is outside of the mom angle, a really cool girl and I enjoy talking and spending time with her...probably the most of all the 3 girls I am currently talking to right now)

How is she outside the mom angle ? She might be cool but she IS a divorced mother.

You're 39 and have your shit together and seem to have height and body type going for you. I can already tell you have oneitis for this girl. The last thing you need to do is jump into an LTR with a divorced woman with a kid.

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The one wrinkle: she shares custody so I only get to see her every other weekend, because we have not progressed to the point where she would want to introduce me to her kid...

Every other weekend ? That still sounds bad.

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Anyway, we have been talking/hanging out since end of October, we have been out 5 times

I basically read "Bang" and used Roosh style tactics, to game her into bed by the end of the fourth date (which happened to be Christmas day)

Two days before Xmas she bought us tickets to go to a play which is happening tomorrow the 24th (super future projection - so I figured she really liked me)

The problem: I went soft about five minutes into banging her! I tried a total of 3 times that night.. all three times same result - I'd go like five minutes or so, then went soft... I kind of freaked out and apologized - but I was really fucking embarrased.

Dude the LAST thing you need to do in bed is apologize and freak out. They need a man comfortable in any situation.

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Anyway, we met for lunch a few days later and she told me it was cool and that there was no problem; but have not gone out since - she is a nurse and worked NYE so I couldn't see her then and the next weekend that she didn't have with her kid I couldn't hang out with her as I had a friend in town and had already made plans.

Anyway, the texting was cool back and forth (I initiate and she initiates pretty equally) except that I have noticed that it's kind been kind of fizzling out over the last two weeks; I got busy at work and didn't text her for a week - but then again she didn't initiate either.

Your gut is telling you something that is obvious.

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Last week, I gave her a call (about 9:45) and she texted me back the next morning saying she was at work, but she got my call and apologized for not calling back but said she was lying with her daughter in bed trying to get her to sleep and dozed off...no call back...no further contact from my end, either....I called her again this Tuesday (6 days after first call), and again I got the VM and the text back within 10 mins saying she was at work...again no call back.

She's subconsciously telling you something and giving you the old slip away quietly.

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I texted her on Wednesday to say I was going to pick her up this Sat at 6 to go to the show. She texted right back saying Yes, that sounds good and that she had printed the tickets at work that day (she bought them)



So...basically...I have no idea wtf is going on? Either:

1. She's going to dump me...and if so, why not just tell me and save the awkwardness?

She might already dumped you, or keeping you as option while banging other guys.[/quote]

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2. I'm still in the game and it was just a hiccup and this is a chance to reconnect and game as usual... but if she's pissed at me for some reason and going to be all distant/surly - why would I want to deal with that shit? - has all this been a massive shit test?

Honestly, should could just be busy with work and her kid. OR she's dating around and maybe got pumped and dumped and came back to you since you're still hitting her up. You should've just gone radio silent on her to see if she comes seeking you.


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So...do I play it cool and see what happens and not give a fuck or if she acts all distant do I just call her on her b.s.?

Let me know if you need any other information and I really appreciate any advice...just a newb looking to learn/ refine his game...and I really want a chance to redeem myself in bed with this girl....

THANK YOU!

DON'T call her out, it's a lose/lose situation.

DO play it cool, go to the show, hang out with her and try and fuck her brains silly.

DO not give a fuck and act non chalant.

WHY should you be the one worried about her ? SHE should be worried about what you're doing. Something tells me you didn't sell that well to her and she didn't become that invested like you have.


Sometimes shit happens, you get a hot girl in your bed and and lose your hard on, some girls might be worried that they aren't hot enough and try to make it up to you. Other girls might be say wtf and eject.

Do you watch alot of porn and jack off regularly ? I don't think you're that old to have Erectile Dysfunction.

Keep gaming and keep fucking other girls, you can do WAY better, younger, and hotter.
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Quote: (01-23-2015 02:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

DON'T call her out, it's a lose/lose situation.

DO play it cool, go to the show, hang out with her and try and fuck her brains silly.

DO not give a fuck and act non chalant.

WHY should you be the one worried about her ? SHE should be worried about what you're doing. Something tells me you didn't sell that well to her and she didn't become that invested like you have.


Sometimes shit happens, you get a hot girl in your bed and and lose your hard on, some girls might be worried that they aren't hot enough and try to make it up to you. Other girls might be say wtf and eject.

Do you watch alot of porn and jack off regularly ? I don't think you're that old to have Erectile Dysfunction.

Keep gaming and keep fucking other girls, you can do WAY better, younger, and hotter.

Hey kaotic,

thank you man, this is why I post - to hear real talk like this and get out of my head.

Outside the mom angle, she's cool as hell...she's a nurse, has her shit together, and doesn't need my money or me to be a father to her kid...I really like hanging out with her, we have a lot in common and have a lot of fun together - I get it that it may sound like oneitis, but is it really if I'm still talking to other girls and/or don't really have a problem meeting girls?

NOTE: this is the first mom I've ever dated, and as a rule I DO NOT date divorced women and/or women with kids. The only reason I made the exception to the rule in this case is that she came highly recommended by my older brother, who has known her for 15 years, after he showed her my picture and she liked what she saw.

I did go radio silent on her...and she didn't come seeking...and that's where the "weirdness" all started, ironically enough.

When I did reinitiate..she responded immediately but it wasn't with the same warmth as before...does that make any sense?...yet she still responds and is still going to go through with the date...which is weird in a sense to me and why I bring up the possibility of a massive shit test bc she bought the tixs and they are expensive - so if you are going to dump me, why ruin the night with some awkward shit or with some dude you're over and not go with someone you want to really go with - if she were banging some other dude? It would be very easy for her to blow me off and never see me again and just go with someone else...

I don't watch a lot of porn, per se, but I was jerking it regularly recently because fuck it, I lift, and a mofo gets horny with all that test running around in his system...

I was on a bit of a self-imposed dry spell (around 8 mos or so after reading red pill literature, seeing the light and taking a knee from dating to do some work on myself (getting back into really good shape, inner game stuff) as well as working my ass off (I own my own business) - the incident I mentioned was the first time "since I saw the light - made some changes - got back in the game" ... just a different sensation than the hand I guess plus I got nervous since I'd been out of practice - and well, I kind of liked this girl - so it seems I put a little more pressure on myself to kill it.

The freak out, was not like a freak out in a literal sense, just apologizing and shit.. because it had never really happened to me before...and not something a lot of guys talk about...I now realize that it is something that happens, so it's cool.

I got some viagra and I will bring some along with me just in case on saturday...

but you're right - not much I can do at this point other than go and be cool and nonchalant....

Now.. here's my question... what if she's all cold and shit...? If calling her out is a lose/lose (which I agree) just bail on the date and take her home...?

Thanks again!
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Quote: (01-23-2015 02:54 PM)von_doom Wrote:  

Hey kaotic,

thank you man, this is why I post - to hear real talk like this and get out of my head.

I don't watch a lot of porn, per se, but I was jerking it regularly recently..I was on a bit of a dry spell (around 8 mos or so..do to working (I own my own business) and pre red-pill) - the incident I mentioned was the first time "since I saw the light" ... just a different sensation than the hand I guess.


I'd stop cranking it, lift more, hell focus on legs man, the test will flow.

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I got some viagra just in case and I will bring some along with me just in case on saturday.

but you're right - not much I can do at this point other than go and be cool...

Not a bad thing to have a back up plan. Yeah just play it cool.

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Now.. here's my question... what if she's all cold and shit...? If calling her out is a lose/lose (which I agree) just bail on the date and take her home...?

Thanks again!
If she's cold and shit, try coaxing her out of it, keep it light and funny. Kino her a little bit (after all you DID fuck her).

If she doesn't respond to it, I'd personally just bounce if she's acting like a bitch, I don't waste my time.

Hell no don't supplicate her, if she's being cold or bitchy, LEAVE, grab an uber, taxi, drive separately.

Gauge her interest, see how she reacts, TRUST YOUR GUT.

If she's friendly, having fun, laughing, body language is looking good. Then go for the bang.

If I were you I'd pregame before the play with a few drinks before the show, preferably either of your places or a bar near, if necessary a bar near the show.
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Hey kaotic,

I think our posts got crossed. I was editing to add some extra info to my reply post while you were replying to my reply..do not know if that changes anything of what you said...

Co-sign 100% on what you just wrote. Great, clear advice.

However, I really appreciate you lending me your ear and your advice.

Thanks again!
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Quote: (01-23-2015 03:33 PM)von_doom Wrote:  

Hey kaotic,

I think our posts got crossed. I was editing to add some extra info to my reply post while you were replying to my reply..do not know if that changes anything of what you said...

Co-sign 100% on what you just wrote. Great, clear advice.

However, I really appreciate you lending me your ear and your advice.

Thanks again!

All good I read up, I got a clearer picture.

Personally I wouldn't compromise on my values just because my brother recommended a woman. Sure I'd bang her, but LTR isn't foreseeable.

Just go with the flow when you go to the show, good luck.
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