[Kingsley Davis]

(01-12-2015 10:38 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 10:22 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 09:53 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

He's Danny Glover's son.

Pretty sure he's not.

According to Wikipedia his dad is Donald Glover Snr, a retired postal worker.

[Avon Barksdale]

(01-12-2015 12:24 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 08:23 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 01:15 AM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 01:01 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

(01-10-2015 06:39 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Kendrick and J Cole are the two smartest young rappers in the game right now. I was not surprised to hear that he said this. You can tell that he thinks outside the box and like J Cole he is a heavy thinker.

Lil boosie comments were a big surprise. He was spot on too. He was one of the last rappers on earth I would expect to say what he did.

J cole, Kendrick Lemar, Childish Gambino, and Logic smartest dudes in the rap game

Jay Electronica. Mos Def. Black Thought. Nas. Common.

Those guys are the Old Guard. You must throw Nas in there as well. Pharoahe Monch probably as well with De La Soul and Slick Rick.

MF Doom, Ras Kass, and Cannabis could also get an honorable mention as well. I bet I am missing another guy, but it is too early to think rap right now.

I never heard of Childish Gambino or Logic, I will have to check them out when I get a chance. Kirko Bangz can be pretty interesting with his witty lines regarding social interactions with people, but he isn't super deep though. Deep for a Southern rapper though.

Childish Gambino is overrated. His fame comes from acting and not his rapping skills. Childish Gambino thinks he's smart, but he just sounds like a SJW hipster to me. He's popular among the beta hipsters crowd.

Logic is talented.

Kirko is cool, but if you want to listen to a deep southern rapper, I recommend Big Krit.


Boosie was in solitary confinement for 18 months while he was locked up. He spent a lot of that time reading and has been drug free since he been out. I'm glad he made the most out of going to prison and is back. Boosie is great for hip hop.

I disagree on Bino, granted he is kinda on some weird shit now, but his world play is dope.

Like someone mentioned before though, Logic is straight raw, One of my top 3 favorite emcee's right now.

[Sourcecode]

If anything. Childish is underrated. He is only note getting big exposure
People wrote him off because they thought he was just an actor.

His style is just way further ahead than other Atlanta based rap

[Avon Barksdale]

^also a lot of people are put off because he has some campy/beta mannerisms

[bacan]

Thanks for that Cato link. Great article and very interesting case study.

[TonySandos]

I'm only semi-surprised about Kendrick Lamar making this comment. He's actually staying truer to his beliefs by saying than any of him hit music that's gained traction lately. As I said in another thread, look at original EP "Overly Dedicated". This quote on Ferguson echoes his sentiment of the first few songs on that album.

TravelerKai said;

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Black Americans have had a raw deal. No one should dispute that. The American family is under attack on all race and socioeconomic levels. Just when we are in a position to turn the corner hard, the rest of America develops the same curses that held us down for so long. So what's the solution? Take more responsibility and make significant efforts to change the course. Dropping the victim mentality would catapult Blacks into prosperity. Many other groups have dropped their faith in God, but most of us have not, that can help give us an advantage as well.

Beautifully stated. That was a powerful post overall, but I wanted to focus on this paragraph in particular.

From studying Black issues, being involved with people from many brands of Black movements and candid conversations with Black Americans is that if the AA community can heal itself and assimilation can be achieved, USA will come back stronger and more fluid than ever. Culturally, Blacks and White Americans are closest and more like each other than any other cultural group they may attempt to associate with themselves. Like it or not, we are "family" and the most important member groups of necessity for cooperation. This country has a poor future if such integral groups can't be more cohesive.

In order for the US to have a prosperous future, we probably need to find ways to cultivate Black success and assimilation before their issues become more drowned out by Latin American immigration.

Quote:

And RVF is a good place to discuss these things. You cannot do anywhere else that has moderators. You cannot approach Black think tanks with papers written with redpill ideology. Perhaps someday if enough black posters want to create a large side project to make a black man's redpill forum, that's fine, but right now there are not enough of us to bother with that right now. Not in my opinion at least, but I could be very wrong about that. I think ALL men need to band together and collaborate and drop all the ethnic and race shit. Radical Islam and the Manosphere isnt compatible, and we are separating ourselves from WN and BN elements well enough, so everything else should be able to work together. So far so good.

I suggested this to Obsidian on his twitter before and though he seemed interested in the idea, that guy is really complacent in my opinion.

[kinjutsu]

To those here that think that being a better black person will solve race relations over night are extremely wrong.

About 6 weeks ago i explained the whole black and white race relations thing to my main girl. She was raised in Canada and lived in a small town for most of her life until recently.
She didn't realize how complicated things were and said that these issues wont be easy to fix.

As with everything, all this starts in the home at a young age.
If black homes had 2 working parents that weren't involved in crime the chances are they would turn out ok.
If the white homes didn't practice subtle racism in front of their children then things might turn out ok.

I've been able to live my entire life and avoid issues with the police outside of a few car accidents. Yet whenever i go certain place people assume i'm an ex-con or that i deal drugs.

Who do we blame for that perception? The parents of the people who think i'm a criminal? The media (Primarily BET and rap culture overall)? Other black people living in the states thousands of miles away?

One thing for sure is that BET and media like it promote the current black culture and are financially invested in keeping it going for as long as possible.
So hypothetically if you were a white person who never grew up around black people and your only exposure to black culture was through the media, what would you think?

The same could be said for Italians to a certain degree.
How many times have people made the incorrect assumption that all Italians are involved with organized crime?

I think if we were able to change the media's perception of black culture then that would do wonders for race relations.

[TravelerKai]

(01-12-2015 11:03 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 12:24 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 08:23 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 01:15 AM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 01:01 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

J cole, Kendrick Lemar, Childish Gambino, and Logic smartest dudes in the rap game

Jay Electronica. Mos Def. Black Thought. Nas. Common.

Those guys are the Old Guard. You must throw Nas in there as well. Pharoahe Monch probably as well with De La Soul and Slick Rick.

MF Doom, Ras Kass, and Cannabis could also get an honorable mention as well. I bet I am missing another guy, but it is too early to think rap right now.

I never heard of Childish Gambino or Logic, I will have to check them out when I get a chance. Kirko Bangz can be pretty interesting with his witty lines regarding social interactions with people, but he isn't super deep though. Deep for a Southern rapper though.

Childish Gambino is overrated. His fame comes from acting and not his rapping skills. Childish Gambino thinks he's smart, but he just sounds like a SJW hipster to me. He's popular among the beta hipsters crowd.

Logic is talented.

Kirko is cool, but if you want to listen to a deep southern rapper, I recommend Big Krit.


Boosie was in solitary confinement for 18 months while he was locked up. He spent a lot of that time reading and has been drug free since he been out. I'm glad he made the most out of going to prison and is back. Boosie is great for hip hop.

I disagree on Bino, granted he is kinda on some weird shit now, but his world play is dope.

Like someone mentioned before though, Logic is straight raw, One of my top 3 favorite emcee's right now.

Wow this young cat is pretty sick with the flow. He has an interesting story and background too. I will have to add him into my rotation.

[TravelerKai]

(01-12-2015 11:44 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I'm only semi-surprised about Kendrick Lamar making this comment. He's actually staying truer to his beliefs by saying than any of him hit music that's gained traction lately. As I said in another thread, look at original EP "Overly Dedicated". This quote on Ferguson echoes his sentiment of the first few songs on that album.

TravelerKai said;

Quote:

Black Americans have had a raw deal. No one should dispute that. The American family is under attack on all race and socioeconomic levels. Just when we are in a position to turn the corner hard, the rest of America develops the same curses that held us down for so long. So what's the solution? Take more responsibility and make significant efforts to change the course. Dropping the victim mentality would catapult Blacks into prosperity. Many other groups have dropped their faith in God, but most of us have not, that can help give us an advantage as well.

Beautifully stated. That was a powerful post overall, but I wanted to focus on this paragraph in particular.

From studying Black issues, being involved with people from many brands of Black movements and candid conversations with Black Americans is that if the AA community can heal itself and assimilation can be achieved, USA will come back stronger and more fluid than ever. Culturally, Blacks and White Americans are closest and more like each other than any other cultural group they may attempt to associate with themselves. Like it or not, we are "family" and the most important member groups of necessity for cooperation. This country has a poor future if such integral groups can't be more cohesive.

In order for the US to have a prosperous future, we probably need to find ways to cultivate Black success and assimilation before their issues become more drowned out by Latin American immigration.

Quote:

And RVF is a good place to discuss these things. You cannot do anywhere else that has moderators. You cannot approach Black think tanks with papers written with redpill ideology. Perhaps someday if enough black posters want to create a large side project to make a black man's redpill forum, that's fine, but right now there are not enough of us to bother with that right now. Not in my opinion at least, but I could be very wrong about that. I think ALL men need to band together and collaborate and drop all the ethnic and race shit. Radical Islam and the Manosphere isnt compatible, and we are separating ourselves from WN and BN elements well enough, so everything else should be able to work together. So far so good.

I suggested this to Obsidian on his twitter before and though he seemed interested in the idea, that guy is really complacent in my opinion.

Yeah, education alone won't solve most problems in the black community. The education system just reinforces blue pill thinking. So you go from one problem to a whole new set of problems, like debt to add on to more liberal hypnosis hogwash. A father can keep a young man grounded in ways no school will ever come close to doing. Heck between rich dad and poor dad, the poor dad is 1000 times better than no dad. There are even young black men that do not understand the power and responsibility the role of a father is, because they were raised by a single mother. The only way out is mentorship from an older man, like a pastor from church, a coworker or boss, or maybe an uncle or something like that.

Someone has to be the one that breaks that cycle in every family/bloodline. Unfortunately too many black men are easily impressed with the bullshit that surrounds them, especially the political leaders and athletes. More role models are needed badly, but there is not much media access for someone qualified to provide an example. Back during the Cosby show heydays, that was quite possibly the best positive role model we had access to, mainstream wise. The current media groups want coonery and other garbage. It basically leaves us with only the ground level to work on our own youth, but that is logistically speaking very tough to deal with large scale wise. Perhaps the internet can help us do something about this but I don't know...

Who is Obsidian and why does he matter? I found some blog that seems like it is the guy you are talking about. He has some strange rant about Roosh's observations about white guy vs black guy game. Is that the guy?

http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com/entry/63921

[Krusyos]

(01-12-2015 11:03 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 12:24 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 08:23 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 01:15 AM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(01-12-2015 01:01 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

J cole, Kendrick Lemar, Childish Gambino, and Logic smartest dudes in the rap game

Jay Electronica. Mos Def. Black Thought. Nas. Common.

Those guys are the Old Guard. You must throw Nas in there as well. Pharoahe Monch probably as well with De La Soul and Slick Rick.

MF Doom, Ras Kass, and Cannabis could also get an honorable mention as well. I bet I am missing another guy, but it is too early to think rap right now.

I never heard of Childish Gambino or Logic, I will have to check them out when I get a chance. Kirko Bangz can be pretty interesting with his witty lines regarding social interactions with people, but he isn't super deep though. Deep for a Southern rapper though.

Childish Gambino is overrated. His fame comes from acting and not his rapping skills. Childish Gambino thinks he's smart, but he just sounds like a SJW hipster to me. He's popular among the beta hipsters crowd.

Logic is talented.

Kirko is cool, but if you want to listen to a deep southern rapper, I recommend Big Krit.


Boosie was in solitary confinement for 18 months while he was locked up. He spent a lot of that time reading and has been drug free since he been out. I'm glad he made the most out of going to prison and is back. Boosie is great for hip hop.

I disagree on Bino, granted he is kinda on some weird shit now, but his world play is dope.

Like someone mentioned before though, Logic is straight raw, One of my top 3 favorite emcee's right now.

It's obvious which artist he reminds me of, but he seems like a pretty cool dude. He apparently saw his sister raped in front of him, dunno whether it was a "rape" or an actual rape. He also apparently sold crack to his dad. Add to that being bi-racial, that's a lot of shit to lay down on his tracks. He's got the skill to do it well, too.

[TravelerKai]

(01-13-2015 05:23 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

To those here that think that being a better black person will solve race relations over night are extremely wrong.

About 6 weeks ago i explained the whole black and white race relations thing to my main girl. She was raised in Canada and lived in a small town for most of her life until recently.
She didn't realize how complicated things were and said that these issues wont be easy to fix.

As with everything, all this starts in the home at a young age.
If black homes had 2 working parents that weren't involved in crime the chances are they would turn out ok.
If the white homes didn't practice subtle racism in front of their children then things might turn out ok.

I've been able to live my entire life and avoid issues with the police outside of a few car accidents. Yet whenever i go certain place people assume i'm an ex-con or that i deal drugs.

Who do we blame for that perception? The parents of the people who think i'm a criminal? The media (Primarily BET and rap culture overall)? Other black people living in the states thousands of miles away?

One thing for sure is that BET and media like it promote the current black culture and are financially invested in keeping it going for as long as possible.
So hypothetically if you were a white person who never grew up around black people and your only exposure to black culture was through the media, what would you think?

The same could be said for Italians to a certain degree.
How many times have people made the incorrect assumption that all Italians are involved with organized crime?

I think if we were able to change the media's perception of black culture then that would do wonders for race relations.

Wrong or right, we don't have any other choices. You and what army is going to force whites and the others to bend to your will? Unlikely.

Exactly, there are no easy fixes. That's what makes it so frustrating.

Yeah I avoided shit growing up somehow but got divorced raped and nearly ruined by feminism of all things. If it wasn't one thing, it was another in a lot of ways. Women will clutch their purses even when I have a suit and tie on. I have a nice car/house and a hot and thin wife, I get the last laugh, not them. Fuck em. You should and or will be in the same position soon enough as well. When you guys get tired of running game nonstop, settle down correctly. It's the biggest middle finger you can give to this world. When you cannot be held down socially or economically by the enemy will squirm like never before and it will fuck up their sleep. I promise you.

Blame is useless at this juncture. We cannot hold black people court on each other and make them stop anymore. Blaming Jews won't fix anything either. Even if they gave us the bullets, we still stuck the gun in our mouths. If we want to change course we need to plot and scheme over infrastructure and real assets. Fuck entertainment. Once you come up, pull up another with you and set him loose to repeat the formula. Entertainment can be a step, but we should not let it be the last one we make. We can springboard off into other projects.

If anything only certain bluebloods would be the only stopping block into certain sectors of business. We should ally with foreigners like Chinese and eventually with enough money, the only way you could get blocked is via politics. If you get to this stage, let me know. There is a way to fix that too. Nowadays more than ever before money talks. More paper, more pull.

BET's days are numbered. More young blacks that are middle and upper class cannot relate to that dumpster fire. They not only cannot speak for us, but they parody their own selves. When you have people like Aaron McGruder that have ripped them up the way he did, you know the blood is in the water. If anything now is probably a good time to pop up an alternative black station but it's not just about the money and we all know who owns all that shit. They want one one piece of shit out there and it will probably stay that way. Live TV itself is in the dangerzone period. On Demand entertainment is the future anyway. Some of this image will correct itself when movies stop reflecting real life.

That may never happen. We just might intermix so much that the problem will only exist for a relatively small group or becomes completely about class and not race.

[deathgrippin]

The UK rapper Akala is worth checking out. I was watching a YouTube video last night titled Akala on Taboos where he discusses the stereotype of hyper sexual black men in the West. This might not be the best place to discuss it because it might come across as too "blue pill" but he's always dropping knowledge and I'm a couple of books into his recommended reading list.

[JoyStick]

(01-13-2015 08:19 AM)Krusyos Wrote:  

It's obvious which artist he reminds me of, but he seems like a pretty cool dude. He apparently saw his sister raped in front of him, dunno whether it was a "rape" or an actual rape. He also apparently sold crack to his dad. Add to that being bi-racial, that's a lot of shit to lay down on his tracks. He's got the skill to do it well, too.

Just FYI he never sold crack. When he talked about selling crack, he was telling his older brother's story.

[TravelerKai]

(01-13-2015 09:34 AM)deathgrippin Wrote:  

The UK rapper Akala is worth checking out. I was watching a YouTube video last night titled Akala on Taboos where he discusses the stereotype of hyper sexual black men in the West. This might not be the best place to discuss it because it might come across as too "blue pill" but he's always dropping knowledge and I'm a couple of books into his recommended reading list.

MC Codebreaker is my favourite from the UK. He drops mad science.

[deathgrippin]

Also, I think Reddit would be a good place to set up shop for brothers to chop it up. I personally can't stand the Blackfellas subreddit on there because the mods are always simping on the black women subreddit and shitting on anyone with a difference of opinion.

[rudebwoy]

(01-13-2015 05:23 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

To those here that think that being a better black person will solve race relations over night are extremely wrong.

About 6 weeks ago i explained the whole black and white race relations thing to my main girl. She was raised in Canada and lived in a small town for most of her life until recently.
She didn't realize how complicated things were and said that these issues wont be easy to fix.

As with everything, all this starts in the home at a young age.
If black homes had 2 working parents that weren't involved in crime the chances are they would turn out ok.
If the white homes didn't practice subtle racism in front of their children then things might turn out ok.

I've been able to live my entire life and avoid issues with the police outside of a few car accidents. Yet whenever i go certain place people assume i'm an ex-con or that i deal drugs.

Who do we blame for that perception? The parents of the people who think i'm a criminal? The media (Primarily BET and rap culture overall)? Other black people living in the states thousands of miles away?

One thing for sure is that BET and media like it promote the current black culture and are financially invested in keeping it going for as long as possible.
So hypothetically if you were a white person who never grew up around black people and your only exposure to black culture was through the media, what would you think?

The same could be said for Italians to a certain degree.
How many times have people made the incorrect assumption that all Italians are involved with organized crime?

I think if we were able to change the media's perception of black culture then that would do wonders for race relations.

POST OF THE YEAR!

[enderilluminatus]

No other artist since mixtape Weezy who can redeem a song more simply by showing up for some bars.

[DjembaDjemba]

TravelerKai Wrote:

That may never happen. We just might intermix so much that the problem will only exist for a relatively small group or becomes completely about class and not race.

This is most likely how things will be. That's already the case in Canada and Britain. USA seems more backwards but they're catching up fast. Something around 12-15% of all marriage in the USA of blacks is to someone who is not black. Throw in all the common laws and the fact that there's 50 million African Americans and shit is changing fast.

More intermixing means means more people have skin in the game.

I for one welcome more sexy mulattas and blasians. The only thing Toronto has going for it.