[Katdogbirdduck]

'You should prepare his meals and massage his feet'

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new book written by a panel of men seeks to advise women on the 'do's and don'ts' of dating from a brutally honest male perspective.
Written by seven New York-based men who are both in and out of relationships, Single Man, Married Man argues that 'every man want to get married' and poses a blunt question to its female readers: 'So why not with you?'
'No matter where a woman was in life, she should always be able to cater to her man’s needs,' one single author writes in an extract published by DNAinfo, while a divorced co-author advises: 'When he gets his ego stroked, he will be more inclined to love you more.'

Single Man, Married Man was compiled by childhood friends Jean Alerte, a 33-year-old married businessman who owns a Brooklyn yogurt shop, and Frank Gateau, a 32-year-old 'serial dater' who works in PR.
Other co-authors include entrepreneur Jickael Bazin, blogger Rae Holliday, life coach Pervis Taylor III, writer Zangba Thomson and musicians DJ Fadelf and Kel Spencer.
'Where exactly did the romance go now that Prince Charming barely pays attention to you anymore?' the book's website reads.

''Prepare his meals, draw him a bath and massage his feet every now and then''

'It takes a lot to hold their attention, and men tend to lose interest in romantic partners when they stop being, well... interesting.'
Mr Alerte and Mr Gateau - who claim that when men say they don't want to get married, they're 'lying' - spent three years surveying more than 300 male subjects online and in person to arrive at their conclusions.

One contributor described as single mentions the song 'Cater 2 U' by Destiny's Child as being an anthem that 'should be on every woman’s playlist and kept on repeat.'
He advises: 'Prepare his meals, draw him a bath and massage his feet every now and then.'
Another author, this time married, claims that if a man doesn't want to argue with you, it does not mean he is 'weak.'
He suggests: 'It possibly alludes to the exact opposite, that he possesses an inner strength to make the intelligent decision to exit the situation.'

[The Reactionary Tree]

Reading the comments section of that piece just reminds me that there is no hope for the West.

Here are the authors & their site: http://singlemanmarriedman.com/

[Rush87]

Sounds fairly rational. In that regard I doubt it goes down too well. Waiting for the "Why are you a misogynist?" Oprah book club interview.

[Captain Gh]

An example of the comments that you'll find from the article:

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Please avoid this book at all costs, men have blamed women for centuries and as women are the only ones with the ability to self reflect we always assume all responsibility but isn't the real truth that men are especially now just not fit for purpose.

What a joke! Reactionnary is right the hope is gone!!

[WesternCancer]

The problem with modern dating culture is that it is a war of attrition.

Women by nature are driven by emotions, feeling, status etc. Every single woman on the planet has crippling self-esteem issues that pretty much direct their entire life thought patterns. In our current age women flock to THEIR personal idea of feminism, social justice, etc. in order to promote in THEIR own heads a certain image of how they are lauded by society as perfect and infallible. By agreeing with, participating in and acting with the SJW/feminist dogma they gain a feeling of belonging. They get status by being a "good person" and their emotions are teased ever so perfectly by the rage-cycle that is modern journalism. Personal indignation -> group acceptance through hate -> climax through destroying oppressors. The same goes for cock-carousel riders. They live in a constant emotion/status/feeling cycle brought on by a hookup culture. To be accepted into a social group (of good standing) they must have a girls night out. Again to masturbate their feelings, with a touch of status, they must fuck/make out with/suck off/ "friendzone" the guy they met at girls night out. THEN only then, can they meet up the next week to gossip to their girlfriends about the player or perfect guy or asshole or creep that they dealt with the prior week. All so they can assuage their feelings, ride an emotional roller coaster and have a feeling of group acceptance.

Men on the other hand are just as bad. There are 3 ways the majority of men go in this day and age.

1. sexless omega basement dweller
2. non-descript beta and/or male feminist
3. hyper-sexual asshole player

A similar self-affirming cycle plagues these 3 types of men and it is characterized by a) deferring and blaming others for gains/losses and b) trying to gain status. Both of which are repulsive to women.

Omegas get fat and get lost in fantasy worlds creating a warped image of reality.

Betas/male feminists believe in the non-existent entity that is the 'friendzone' because they are too worried about their status with groups of friends/girls and rejection to actually be attractive to women and make a move on a girl they like.

Asshole-players are the number 2 go to for the other 2 tiers of "men" They get blamed for all the other mens problems because they are able to get women to respond to them (aka. fuck them) with little or no commitment). However a lot of guys who skew to the asshole side are fucking for social acceptance.

What a lot of guys don't realize is that women don't like assholes, they just respond to them. More often than not a guy running asshole game is going to be: good looking, assertive, confident (or the image of confidence) etc. All good things to have to attract women, but not the complete package for a 'happy couple' (aka. caring relationship where the gender roles are filled by each partner at just the right amount to make maximal happiness). Again what do 'nice guys' think makes for a 'happy couple': emotional sensitivity, gifts, compliments etc. again all good when used in the right proportions.

So in short both sexes are completely fucking up their chances of actually finding happiness with another person because they try to fulfill some image they have created which usually takes on the form of what image they think will be most successful. Most of the time this involves blaming the other sex for the entirety of their problems, and well fuck it since the other sex is a terrible example of masculinity/femininity I might as well be too!

Ie. men think women either want a hyper-masculine "asshole alpha" or some kind of beta provider feelings-masseuse because they have seen both work (one in real life and one in movies)

women think men want a career driven, sexually successful, etc woman because that is what they want in a man.

So what does each sex want (and what does each sex need).

Men want, above all else, youth and beauty, however a woman must also be compassionate, loyal, etc. AKA FEMININE

Women want a man who is self-reliant, confident, assertive/dominant, in demand by other women, attractive etc. AKA MASCULINE

In short the modern dating market is one societal-scale nigga moment.

For reference

The only question now is which side will run out of "resources" and self-destruct first.

[UroboricForms]

(01-03-2015 08:16 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

The problem with modern dating culture is that it is a war of attrition.

Women by nature are driven by emotions, feeling, status etc. Every single woman on the planet has crippling self-esteem issues that pretty much direct their entire life thought patterns. In our current age women flock to THEIR personal idea of feminism, social justice, etc. in order to promote in THEIR own heads a certain image of how they are lauded by society as perfect and infallible. By agreeing with, participating in and acting with the SJW/feminist dogma they gain a feeling of belonging. They get status by being a "good person" and their emotions are teased ever so perfectly by the rage-cycle that is modern journalism. Personal indignation -> group acceptance through hate -> climax through destroying oppressors. The same goes for cock-carousel riders. They live in a constant emotion/status/feeling cycle brought on by a hookup culture. To be accepted into a social group (of good standing) they must have a girls night out. Again to masturbate their feelings, with a touch of status, they must fuck/make out with/suck off/ "friendzone" the guy they met at girls night out. THEN only then, can they meet up the next week to gossip to their girlfriends about the player or perfect guy or asshole or creep that they dealt with the prior week. All so they can assuage their feelings, ride an emotional roller coaster and have a feeling of group acceptance.

Men on the other hand are just as bad. There are 3 ways the majority of men go in this day and age.

1. sexless omega basement dweller
2. non-descript beta and/or male feminist
3. hyper-sexual asshole player

A similar self-affirming cycle plagues these 3 types of men and it is characterized by a) deferring and blaming others for gains/losses and b) trying to gain status. Both of which are repulsive to women.

Omegas get fat and get lost in fantasy worlds creating a warped image of reality.

Betas/male feminists believe in the non-existent entity that is the 'friendzone' because they are too worried about their status with groups of friends/girls and rejection to actually be attractive to women and make a move on a girl they like.

Asshole-players are the number 2 go to for the other 2 tiers of "men" They get blamed for all the other mens problems because they are able to get women to respond to them (aka. fuck them) with little or no commitment). However a lot of guys who skew to the asshole side are fucking for social acceptance.

What a lot of guys don't realize is that women don't like assholes, they just respond to them. More often than not a guy running asshole game is going to be: good looking, assertive, confident (or the image of confidence) etc. All good things to have to attract women, but not the complete package for a 'happy couple' (aka. caring relationship where the gender roles are filled by each partner at just the right amount to make maximal happiness). Again what do 'nice guys' think makes for a 'happy couple': emotional sensitivity, gifts, compliments etc. again all good when used in the right proportions.

So in short both sexes are completely fucking up their chances of actually finding happiness with another person because they try to fulfill some image they have created which usually takes on the form of what image they think will be most successful. Most of the time this involves blaming the other sex for the entirety of their problems, and well fuck it since the other sex is a terrible example of masculinity/femininity I might as well be too!

Ie. men think women either want a hyper-masculine "asshole alpha" or some kind of beta provider feelings-masseuse because they have seen both work (one in real life and one in movies)

women think men want a career driven, sexually successful, etc woman because that is what they want in a man.

So what does each sex want (and what does each sex need).

Men want, above all else, youth and beauty, however a woman must also be compassionate, loyal, etc. AKA FEMININE

Women want a man who is self-reliant, confident, assertive/dominant, in demand by other women, attractive etc. AKA MASCULINE

In short the modern dating market is one societal-scale nigga moment.

For reference

The only question now is which side will run out of "resources" and self-destruct first.

[kaotic]

RIP Thread, Western just killed it.

+1 Rep

Brutally honest analysis of today's dating situation.

[CJ_W]

(01-03-2015 08:16 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

The only question now is which side will run out of "resources" and self-destruct first.

That's easy, feminist women will. Why?

As more and more men meet bitchy women, more and more men either

a)stop fucking them(become incel omegas)
b)Stop fucking them as they get older and keep fucking the younger ones
c)Leave the country i.e. "sperm drain" and find the women that want to serve their man.

See, after 35 and definitely after 40, those bitchy women aren't going to reproduce, yes some may become single mothers having their progeny cared for by the state, but that wont be enough to step the rapid population decline since not enough women will be sought after by men and have children, and the men that know better and know the true nature of women (these men wake up to this fact more and more) realize that the divorce and family court laws are against them, and again decide to leave that country for another one similar to how companies move overseas to escape crushing taxes and or regulation.

It will cause an economic collapse eventually(or even just a complete collapse in the marriage/relationship/children market) and women will HAVE to fall in line, period. You can't fight nature(biology), you can try, but nature always wins.

I think the movie "Isle of man" could serve as an allegory for the feminism movement of the west to eventually stop all procreation, leaving only the people from 3rd world countries, unburdened by feminism to reproduce, and populate the Earth. Replacing the ideological/forced biological mistake these countries are suffering from.


it will take a couple of lifetimes in the realm of time for this "correction" to happen though. so might as well have as much fun as possible on the way down.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

7 successful black men recommend women on how to tie down a man?

Yeah well - since their own demographic is laced with 75% single mothers, the first advice would be to not get pregnant with the next best bad boy.

The advice given is neither brutal nor honest - it is just a business venture to extract cash from all those deluded single mother land-whales who think that a bath and a foot massage will attract a guy like one of the authors:

   

Nice business venture, but not much else.

[TravelerKai]

Interesting. High value brothers like this could pull 8-10s outside the US, very easily. The second guy should take his talents outside the country for sure. None of those guys would do that, because they are probably tied to the hip with the circle that formulated this stuff and they all seem to have strong ties to the black entertainment industry, which having foreign gf/wives, would make you look bad to the others.

I agree with Zelscorpion though. They are just trying to hustle black women like Steve Harvey did. I doubt they are like Hill Harper, Terrance Howard, and Tyrese though.

[tallandblonde]

What men tell their friends that are having a dry spell: "Stop being a pussy, grow some balls and meet some new women."

What women tell their friends that are having trouble finding a bf: "You're perfect just the way you are. Don't change just because all men are assholes."

Women don't want dating advice, because they don't ever want to hear that they are anything but a perfect little flower. When in reality, if a girl happens to be an ugly, mean, spiteful, jealous bitch, she don't deserve to have any man find her attractive. Yet some men do, because they think that's their only option.

[Switch]

Who knew that being nice to and taking care of a man would keep him around? Truly groundbreaking stuff right here. It really says something about society's current state that this has to be written .

[Travesty]

Western Cancer's statement it seems like many girls will go for a gentleman type, thing is you act all like a gentleman and put in the effort you find out in her sexual history she fucked 3 other guys in the last 4 months running asshole game and you're just the savior. That's a hard pill to roll with especially when you've been the "other guy" enough times to see how it works.

I'd say 90%+ of the time here in SoCal if I have a choice of being a bit more gentlemanly vs. being more of a prick. I choose being more of a prick due to results using that. It is hard to switch that mindset on a flip when you find a girl that may be worth changing for. Good behavior for men is not rewarded nearly often enough so it is hard to keep faith in it.

Quick example, I am actually now against even offering to walk a chick in the dark (sometimes really late) to her car parked a few blocks away or the bus stop because I actually sense from them that would come off as too needy. I feel like that should be a natural masculine move to make, but my gut knows with many girls they actually disrespect it out of their need for self-empowerment.

[GeroMeroHero]

It really is a simple formula: pretty, nice, and sane.

The last one... take it or leave it since no girl is sane.

[Geomann180]

I like what these men are doing. Smart women would buy their book and take it to heart. Unfortunately, things don't work that way.

You can bring a woman to logic - but you can't make her think.

G

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-04-2015 04:03 PM)tallandblonde Wrote:  

Women don't want dating advice, because they don't ever want to hear that they are anything but a perfect little flower. When in reality, if a girl happens to be an ugly, mean, spiteful, jealous bitch, she don't deserve to have any man find her attractive. Yet some men do, because they think that's their only option.

Dating advice for women is easy, but it would have to start out when they are 16:

- don't get fat - ever - if you are slim down - that is 90% of your success already - workout if necessary
- avoid chasing Bad Boy Alphas & never ever have a child with one of them - no single mothers
- be supportive of him, don't belittle him, be subservient to him (even if you secretly rule - men like to be in charge)
- ground rule is not who you can fuck, but who will propose for you or ask you to be in a LTR with him
- the more men you fuck, the more fucked up you will be in the end
- if you can't find a good Alpha to commit go find an attractive Beta and point him our Red Pill way - most guys Alpha up, if not - then they cannot be helped

But likely the women who buy the book are around the Wall, most of them single mothers or married to their careers, have mile-high expectations after having gone through dozens of Alphas, they are overweight and in addition they are "sassy and empowered taking no shit" - being belligerent at the slightest provocation, unless a strong Alpha reigns them in - problem being, that no Alpha wants them even more - even for a short fling.

How do you help those? Women do not want to hear that. They don't want advice unless they are convinced by entire society like in our grand-grand-mothers time, where all women knew how to best behave.

[Foolsgo1d]

No mention of being good/great at blowjobs?

Nothing says I really like you to stick around than girl who does your food right and has the technique down to get you off with her mouth. That is girl game.

[Tony_Flame]

(01-06-2015 03:22 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-04-2015 04:03 PM)tallandblonde Wrote:  

Women don't want dating advice, because they don't ever want to hear that they are anything but a perfect little flower. When in reality, if a girl happens to be an ugly, mean, spiteful, jealous bitch, she don't deserve to have any man find her attractive. Yet some men do, because they think that's their only option.

Dating advice for women is easy, but it would have to start out when they are 16:

- don't get fat - ever - if you are slim down - that is 90% of your success already - workout if necessary
- avoid chasing Bad Boy Alphas & never ever have a child with one of them - no single mothers
- be supportive of him, don't belittle him, be subservient to him (even if you secretly rule - men like to be in charge)
- ground rule is not who you can fuck, but who will propose for you or ask you to be in a LTR with him
- the more men you fuck, the more fucked up you will be in the end
- if you can't find a good Alpha to commit go find an attractive Beta and point him our Red Pill way - most guys Alpha up, if not - then they cannot be helped

What a great post ! I totally agree with you and in fact I could even pass that list to female family members or friends. It's that simple and elusive obvious.

[SlickyBoy]

Women who buy this book are just like guys who seek advice for asset protection AFTER they're facing a divorce, bankruptcy, audit, etc. In both cases there's ample worthwhile advice to be had but the target market is never the crowd interested in hearing it, only those who have waited till it's too late.