[alexdagr81]

Did anyone here watch this? I'll admit it was probably the only show I watched outside of sports.

I know liberals are praising it to high heaven for all but implying a happy ending lesbian relationship with the main character (especially SJW "shipping"). You can tell they tried to get as close as they could.

The show (and it predecessor) also had a feminist message. I would say it wasn't too preachy, but if you thought about for like 2 seconds you would realize it's a feminist show.

Especially the last two seasons women were featured prominently. It was no accident that the final villain was a woman (though they didn't kill her, and men in her situation would've died no matter what)

I know the users here might be put off by the show. I do find one thing interesting to note about all the girl power: everyone behind the show was male. The writers, the producers, the directors, even the composer: all men. It puts things into perspective of the feminism of the show. If you reverse the sexes, things start to make sense.

[BLarsen]

Was there something in between Avatar:Last Airbender and LOK? You think Avatar had a feminist message? I really don't agree. I think they were trying to tell a (lame) love story between Aang and the waterbender chick.

I was semi-interested in LOK, but decided against it b/c it was an obvious attempt at GRRL POWER, so fuck it.

[enderilluminatus]

The finale was garbage. I hated at least 50% of the episodes in the entire series but felt obligated to finish it because Avatar: The Last Airbender is my favorite television show ever.

[enderilluminatus]

(12-20-2014 03:11 PM)BLarsen Wrote:  

Was there something in between Avatar:Last Airbender and LOK?

(12-20-2014 03:11 PM)BLarsen Wrote:  

(lame) love story between Aang and the waterbender chick.

I couldn't possibly disagree more. Their romance is seemingly impossible from the start and then developed naturally as the series progressed. Getting into any more detail would require spoilers though.

[alexdagr81]

(12-20-2014 03:11 PM)BLarsen Wrote:  

Was there something in between Avatar:Last Airbender and LOK? You think Avatar had a feminist message? I really don't agree. I think they were trying to tell a (lame) love story between Aang and the waterbender chick.

I was semi-interested in LOK, but decided against it b/c it was an obvious attempt at GRRL POWER, so fuck it.

I think characters like Azula, Katara, and Toph do give off a feminist vibe. I think most would say Azula was a good villain and that her sex didn't matter, something that feminism at least used to want.

And yeah I thought the ending was lame too.

[Canopus]

When you take a look at how the men in the show are portrayed, you will understand why Korra opts for the girl that looks like that evil chick from Fullmetal Alchemist.

[alexdagr81]

(12-20-2014 03:36 PM)Canopus Wrote:  

When you take a look at how the men in the show are portrayed, you will understand why Korra opts for the girl that looks like that evil chick from Fullmetal Alchemist.

I was actually going to mention that's why it's important to note that the writers are male. If you reversed the genders (leaving Asami as a girl), you realize how these characters were developed. It's like they took traditional gender traits and reversed them

[enderilluminatus]

Can we all admit that Ty Lee is the 10 of A:TLA. This is even canon if you'll remember the beach/party episode.

[WestIndianArchie]

I was floored. Flabbergasted. Astounded. Dumbfounded.

Did that just happen?

A vacation, just the two of us.
*hand hold*
*stare at each other*

I mean the fan blogs were hoping it would happen, but I never thought that Nickelodeon would actually allow something like that to happen. Even if it was just suggested, it was blatant if you're older than 8.

The series was thoroughly feminist, in that women can be heroes and villains and mothers and everything else. But not feminist in terms that would make mouth breathing misogynists flip out. It's kinda like having a Black Storm Tropper. If racists find that offensive, that says a lot more about them than it does about the so-called Social Justice Warrior Agenda.

Overall, the Legend of Korra wasn't as good as Avatar. It has little to do with the feminism and overall message.

WIA

(12-20-2014 03:07 PM)alexdagr81 Wrote:  

Did anyone here watch this? I'll admit it was probably the only show I watched outside of sports.

I know liberals are praising it to high heaven for all but implying a happy ending lesbian relationship with the main character (especially SJW "shipping"). You can tell they tried to get as close as they could.

The show (and it predecessor) also had a feminist message. I would say it wasn't too preachy, but if you thought about for like 2 seconds you would realize it's a feminist show.

Especially the last two seasons women were featured prominently. It was no accident that the final villain was a woman (though they didn't kill her, and men in her situation would've died no matter what)

I know the users here might be put off by the show. I do find one thing interesting to note about all the girl power: everyone behind the show was male. The writers, the producers, the directors, even the composer: all men. It puts things into perspective of the feminism of the show. If you reverse the sexes, things start to make sense.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(12-20-2014 04:58 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I was floored. Flabbergasted. Astounded. Dumbfounded.

Did that just happen?

A vacation, just the two of us.
*hand hold*
*stare at each other*

I mean the fan blogs were hoping it would happen, but I never thought that Nickelodeon would actually allow something like that to happen. Even if it was just suggested, it was blatant if you're older than 8.

The series was thoroughly feminist, in that women can be heroes and villains and mothers and everything else. But not feminist in terms that would make mouth breathing misogynists flip out. It's kinda like having a Black Storm Tropper. If racists find that offensive, that says a lot more about them than it does about the so-called Social Justice Warrior Agenda.

Overall, the Legend of Korra wasn't as good as Avatar. It has little to do with the feminism and overall message.

WIA

I have to admit I am a sucker for the Avatar show - but the original Avatar. I like the story, the world and the Avatar state despite it's obvious childishness. I watched it together sometimes with my young cousins.

Korra was a feminist fuckpiece from the get-go, where they stuffed ever more SJW-themes into the crap. They made even massive story-telling blunders and practically changed the world and the entire vibe of the show.

Not only was the original Aang just a learning Avatar barely mastering his full powers, but she was supposed to be much older and yet gets regularly getting her ass handed to her by enemies who could not possibly have defeated Aang later on.

In the last series she spent her days fighting with her emotions, cutting her hair short and in the end only succeeding with the major help of all others. Obama's "You did not earn or make it yourself." comes to mind. It's every bloody SJW dream to only succeed in a united mob, because individually they are nothing. She actually "defeated" her fucking last female enemy just via talking about her bloody emotions! That's girl-power for you - a deluded crazy mass-murdering power-hungry bitch is just convinced to surrender by kind words. Women are such reasonable creatures - heh.

And to top the crap off they made her into a lesbian in the end. It's possible that the main villain Kuvera was a lesbian too, who was just pissed off because she could not live her "true self" in the Avatar world.

Well done - the next Batman will be gay or transsexual.

[enderilluminatus]

(12-20-2014 06:09 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Well done - the next Batman will be gay or transsexual.

[Old Fritz]

It's nice to see other Avatar fans in here. The only reason I continued watching Legend of Korra was because I loved the Last Airbender. So many people are just talking about Korra and Asami being officially together. (Even though it was intentionally left ambiguous). I was more concerned with how rushed everything was.

I wanted to see Zuko, Katara, and Toph again one more time. It's a shame we didn't get to see that. When it comes to villains, Kuvira was okay but Zaheer as the best followed by Amon prior to getting his masked removed. Azula and Zuko are still my favorite characters in the entire series though.

I agree with those that say there was too much feminism.

[alexdagr81]

Oh while Unalaq was the most generic, Kuvira's crying at the end made her the softest

[WestIndianArchie]

(12-20-2014 07:48 PM)alexdagr81 Wrote:  

Oh while Unalaq was the most generic, Kuvira's crying at the end made her the softest

They played Hitl...I mean Kuvira.

The reason she was going to unite the Earth Kingdom was because she was hurt as a child?

Lame.

Avatar explored more of the Eastern Philosophy, while LOK was more about looking @ Western Political structures

- equalists
- communist
- anarchists
- fascists

But of course the Earth Kingdom should be put away the monarchy and have democratically elections.

I'm not surprised that the largely American creators would slide push a very Western ideology on a largely Western Audience, but for a second with Avatar, they offered a glimpse of alternate ideas.

WIA

[Avon Barksdale]

Yea Its to bad The Legend of Korra Overall was a let down.

There were some bright spots though,like The episode arc when they told the story of the very first avatar.The art style change up was amazing.

The Last Air Bender was a much better show, Anybody have an idea why they messed up with Korra so much?

[Avon Barksdale]

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[alexdagr81]

Yeah the whole monarchy to democracy was horribly innaccurate, the monarchy is pushed to the side as a symbol or just straight up overthrown

[enderilluminatus]

(12-20-2014 11:22 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

The Last Air Bender was a much better show, Anybody have an idea why they messed up with Korra so much?

Different writers, money, and politics.

[Old Fritz]

(12-20-2014 11:50 PM)enderilluminatus Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 11:22 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

The Last Air Bender was a much better show, Anybody have an idea why they messed up with Korra so much?

Different writers, money, and politics.

Don't forget Social Justice!!

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I haven't seen Korra, but I watched Avatar the Last Airbender and thought it was very good, other than the deus-ex-machina ending (the writers got Aang and others into too much trouble against hopeless odds, and solved it by a gimmicky and stupid coincidence).

That said, I don't recall noticing SJW-ism/propaganda in it, and I've finished watching it last year when I was already easily angered by SJW bullshit.

[MoFoQ]

(12-21-2014 12:27 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 11:50 PM)enderilluminatus Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 11:22 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

The Last Air Bender was a much better show, Anybody have an idea why they messed up with Korra so much?

Different writers, money, and politics.

Don't forget Social Justice!!

I can't imagine I'm the only one that shutters when I hear "social justice"

[alexdagr81]

I do have one thing to say about Suyin and Kuvira. Suyin said she didn't want to be looked at as a conqueror to make her look like a righteous person. She could have stabilized the Earth Kingdom and simply stepped down, I guess the creators had never heard of Cincinnatus.

[TheSlayer]

I never bothered with Legend of Korra but the Avatar was a great show.

[Muk]

well...shit.
I was just about to start the series... until I saw this thread...

[DChambers]

Just decided to pick up the series after stopping for awhile. Just started season 3. I remember why I hated the show in the first place, it wasn't the SJW hues it had, it was the blatant pro globalization one world government message they had. I could feel the propaganda through the T.V.