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Bartending Course and Bartending Economy
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Bartending Course and Bartending Economy

Hey guys,

My friend recommended a bartending course to me (she is now a bartender herself). I'm wondering if anyone has experience with bartending and bartending courses, if the course leads to good employment for bartending, if the bartending market is a good one, and how much you can make as a (male) bartender. I figure I could use a decent paying part-time job in school.
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the course helps if you dont know anything but on the job training/learning is the best way to go. not sure where your located but most good places where you will make decent dough a night will be sorta tough to get into unless you know someone there.
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Quote: (04-21-2011 10:05 AM)Biz Wrote:  

the course helps if you dont know anything but on the job training/learning is the best way to go. not sure where your located but most good places where you will make decent dough a night will be sorta tough to get into unless you know someone there.

Bartending can be difficult to get into for a few reasons, plus there are downsides:

*Lack of sufficient social skills
*Inexperience (and seniority) leads to crappier shifts with less pay
*Lack of bartending positions available in certain cities
*Poor networking can limit opportunities
*On the job training is necessary to become great (which takes years)
*Often have to work late nights, weekends, holidays where you don't get off until 4am or later.
*Less nights to go out because you're working

Up sides:
*Potential for pulling a lot of money in one night/weekend
*Networking/Social opportunities once you're in
*Instant social proof in every bar in the world (good for the wallet and getting girls)
*Days are free to work, sleep, approach women, etc.

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This is a "who you know" not "what you know" industry to the extreme.

That girl with the fake boobs that couldn't mix a cocktail to save her life? Yeah, she knew someone. (and the boobs).

I busted out on here somewhere before about the best way to get a bartending job.

Although, I bet these days a real strong personal twitter and facebook would help you land the job (not joking here).
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G is right, if the gig is worth a shit its going to cousin or a nephew or the kid of the guy who loaned the money to the guy who started the place or the server who has been taking lunch shifts for a year. if you knock on some doors and get aggressive you may be able to work your way into some crappy shifts but its going to require a lot of shoe leather and networking.
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I worked a bar-tending job for a couple months, oh, about two years ago now. In the interview the guy asked me how many friends I had on myspace and facebook. So, I can agree with what G is saying there.

Anyway, I don't really see why you'd want to pay money to take a class. You can get a job at most dive bars by just walking in and filling out an app. Learn what you're doing there and then go work at a better bar if you want to make a career out of it.

To answer the OP's question, at the bar I worked at, the top guys were making $40-50K a year, which is pretty good for a crappy dive bar. Course the owner's son/manager always claimed they were making $100K a year, which was obviously a crock.
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CJ -

"In the interview the guy asked me how many friends I had on myspace and facebook. So, I can agree with what G is saying there. "

I was totally speculating, but I figured that would be the case.

It makes sense. If you have 2000 Facebook friends in XYZ city, you can blast out with a "come on by for drink specials" type crap post on facebook and I bet 300 monkeys show up.

If I owned some bar, I would look at that as far as hiring someone for sure.
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Quote: (04-21-2011 08:20 AM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

Hey guys,

My friend recommended a bartending course to me (she

Almost stopped reading there.


I've worked in restaurants most of my life, none of the good top tier bartenders ever went to school for it. I've never heard anyone sing the praises of bartending school.

I will say this, if you live in a very jumpin' area, where the jobs are many, but very tight and openings are few and far between, having the schooling behind your belt might give you the necessary leg up you need to get in IF you don't have a connection.

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The bartenders that i knew started as bar backs and quickly moved up. It was for sure a decent p.t. job for them while they were in school. On the other hand, i'd prefer to just have friends that are bartenders in hotspots, not actually work at one.
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Quote:Quote:

It makes sense. If you have 2000 Facebook friends in XYZ city, you can blast out with a "come on by for drink specials" type crap post on facebook and I bet 300 monkeys show up.

If I owned some bar, I would look at that as far as hiring someone for sure.

Agreed. This is primarily what bar owners look for when hiring: who can they hire to bring people to the watering hole.

In a college town, it is guys who are in Frats and hot girls with large tits.
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^ And athletes who got injured and can't play anymore.

Quote: (04-21-2011 03:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

CJ -

"In the interview the guy asked me how many friends I had on myspace and facebook. So, I can agree with what G is saying there. "

I was totally speculating, but I figured that would be the case.

It makes sense. If you have 2000 Facebook friends in XYZ city, you can blast out with a "come on by for drink specials" type crap post on facebook and I bet 300 monkeys show up.

If I owned some bar, I would look at that as far as hiring someone for sure.

Yep, Myspace was still the thing at the time, and the owner made sure everyone had an account and was sending out messages almost everyday (some jerkoffs sent them multiple times a day) to try to get people to come to the bar. I rarely sent those messages though, just seemed so lame/desperate.
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Aren't hot girls with big tits a mainstay of any bar. I got dragged into a gay bar once and even there the dyke serving drinks was rocking Ds in a low cut top.

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Quote: (04-21-2011 03:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

CJ -

"In the interview the guy asked me how many friends I had on myspace and facebook. So, I can agree with what G is saying there. "

I was totally speculating, but I figured that would be the case.

It makes sense. If you have 2000 Facebook friends in XYZ city, you can blast out with a "come on by for drink specials" type crap post on facebook and I bet 300 monkeys show up.

If I owned some bar, I would look at that as far as hiring someone for sure.

Yet another reason why I cannot stand Facebook. I don't want to be part of a mass media advertisement deployment every 10 fucking minutes! I want to be specifically invited to an event, not be part of a nest of monkeys desperately thinking that the hot bartender that invited them to her bar is gonna fuck them by nights end just 'cuz you got her Facebook invitation.

I would never encourage anyone ot get a bartending job. The party lifestyle, and late night alcohol binges can throw you off track in all aspects of your life. Not to mention that the first thing bartenders do after they clock out at 5:00am is binge on bad carbs at Dennys, which will accumulate the pounds in 2 years dramatically.

You want a much higher paying job, parties, and women? Get a job in the entertainment industry...even if it means a mailroom lackey to get your foot in the door. Yeah, that's what I did 15 years ago.

I have banged enough bartender girls to know they have dead end lives, and they are all about drinking and partying with you, or someone else - shit gets old quick. Once they are no longer the 20 years old hottie with a perky tight ass, and rocket tits, they quickly start looking for a man to blame their whole miserable existence on.

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Johnsan, did you even read the rest of the thread? Please do not waste your money on a course like this.
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