[jariel]

(12-08-2014 06:09 AM)dads Wrote:  

I think when people say "natural" they're referring to someone who has always been able to pull. The result of a lifetime of that can lead a few different ways, but rarely does it lead to someone having the mindset of Roosh or Rollo. Which is why they still slip up.

I know what a natural is, but these guys' abilities to pull what they pull now is directly related to their level of fame. Drake has admitted that a lot of the girls he pulls now wouldn't have given him the time of day before, and in Chris Brown's case, he has a serious case of oneitis, in terms of being on and off with just some regular chick.

That's not to say without fame these dudes wouldn't/couldn't get ass, I'm just not going to be convinced they are "naturals", there's an inherent understanding that they lack that real "naturals" use to navigate the muddy, female waters.

[rudebwoy]

So much for Drake being the softest rapper!

Seems like a race between Omarion, Usher and Chris Brown, although they are R n B.

[TravelerKai]

(12-08-2014 11:03 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

So much for Drake being the softest rapper!

Seems like a race between Omarion, Usher and Chris Brown, although they are R n B.

Usher is an interesting guy. He has had oneitis issues in the past, but he has the ability to pull certain women very, very few men can. I wonder if he is past all of that now? I don't follow him very closely, but now that Rude brought him up, I am trying to recall certain things about his issues as well. Tyrese and Usher have alot in common in those respects. RnB singers are interesting because you would think these guys are as natural as natural can get, but not all of them are naturals. Some are even simp as fuck.

[Moma]

Which lizards can Usher pull that no others can? To my knowledge, Usher tends to go for lizards much older than he. Not sure if I classify getting cougars as elite game.

[TravelerKai]

(12-08-2014 11:35 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Which lizards can Usher pull that no others can? To my knowledge, Usher tends to go for lizards much older than he. Not sure if I classify getting cougars as elite game.

Keyword: can

He is very rich, very smooth, very stylish, and very very famous. What woman would not want to hang around him? Problem is that he, for whatever reasons chases women like you mentioned and other sub-par gals. As if he has either trust issues or is one of those Hollywood celebrities that will never date outside of the A-B list pool. White guys can kinda get away with that a little better, but how many black guys in the A list like this can do this without getting burned or exposed for doing so?

[Moma]

Traveller, how does Usher 's ' magnetism' differ from all the other plebs in the game? How does he rank over Ralph Tresvant, Omarion, Chris Brown and the many others I have forgotten to name? How does Usher best them?

[TravelerKai]

(12-08-2014 12:08 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Traveller, how does Usher 's ' magnetism' differ from all the other plebs in the game? How does he rank over Ralph Tresvant, Omarion, Chris Brown and the many others I have forgotten to name? How does Usher best them?

Usher is an internationally recognized artist. The almost heir apparent to Michael Jackson in some years. Even my wife and other Chinese women I have met know who he is. Outside of Justin Timberlake, other rnb artists barely register like that. Robin thicke comes close, but not close enough. Chris Brown has alot of run in Europe. I'm talking about girls that know LeBron James but don't know Kobe Bryant for whatever reason. It's alot like that.

[Moma]

Traveller, so it's fame game rather than any particular personal swag that you speak of regarding Usher.

[Enigma]

If you put Chris Brown, Tresvant, and Omarion's entire discographies together (that's including B2K and New Edition), they still sold less than Confessions.

There are only like 50 artists who have gone Diamond in the past 50 years, and Usher is one of them. He's a mega-star.

[JoyStick]

Chris Brown is young and wanted that blue pill fairy tale. It's trials and errors. He will smarten up and bounce back!

Look at Justin Timberlake... He went being butthurt about Britney Spears to dating a bunch of hotties.

[txbeachbum]

All bitches ain't women.

[jariel]

(12-08-2014 02:12 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

Look at Justin Timberlake... He went being butthurt about Britney Spears to dating a bunch of hotties.

Actually, Timberlake played that whole shit like a boss, she stepped out, so he dropped her to the curb, in the end it was Britney who went Chernobyl while JT moved on to several dimes.

[jariel]

(12-08-2014 01:27 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Traveller, so it's fame game rather than any particular personal swag that you speak of regarding Usher.

Usher is the natural dirty mack. He's Exhibit A for a man who has issues with his mother and then takes those issues out on other women, that relationship is also the reason he chases after older bitches, he just can't escape the dynamic.

[heavy]

(12-08-2014 09:25 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 06:09 AM)dads Wrote:  

I think when people say "natural" they're referring to someone who has always been able to pull. The result of a lifetime of that can lead a few different ways, but rarely does it lead to someone having the mindset of Roosh or Rollo. Which is why they still slip up.

I know what a natural is, but these guys' abilities to pull what they pull now is directly related to their level of fame. Drake has admitted that a lot of the girls he pulls now wouldn't have given him the time of day before, and in Chris Brown's case, he has a serious case of oneitis, in terms of being on and off with just some regular chick.

That's not to say without fame these dudes wouldn't/couldn't get ass, I'm just not going to be convinced they are "naturals", there's an inherent understanding that they lack that real "naturals" use to navigate the muddy, female waters.

Not sure if these replies were somewhat due to my post last night, but...

These two stories (Chris Brown and Omarion) triggered my experiences seeing naturals in small town America...very similar. My write up was actually in response to these first hand situations I’ve seen up-close more than these celebs getting fucked over.

I could detail what I’ve witnessed, but I’d rather not. Regardless, I suspect the celebs getting f-ed stems from a similar mindset as the small town naturals I’ve seen...little empathy, lotsa narcissism, end up losers in life.

Yes jariel, mommy-daddy issues cause this.

[Enigma]

Really funny coincidence. The internet is buzzing right now because apparently last night at Liv in Miami, Drake wouldn't stop simping on Cassie and Diddy slapped him around a bit.

Proves my point exactly. Him fucking with other people's girls is not a power play, it's to feed his ego and create drama. That's why any time someone steps to him or calls him out, he has nothing to say.

If you're going to constantly stir up drama and attention, at least be able to finish it a la someone like 50 Cent.

EDIT: For the record, I don't know that the Drake/Diddy story is 100% true, but it fits his M.O.

[Enigma]

Also:

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(12-08-2014 04:10 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

Really funny coincidence. The internet is buzzing right now because apparently last night at Liv in Miami, Drake wouldn't stop simping on Cassie and Diddy slapped him around a bit.

Proves my point exactly. Him fucking with other people's girls is not a power play, it's to feed his ego and create drama. That's why any time someone steps to him or calls him out, he has nothing to say.

If you're going to constantly stir up drama and attention, at least be able to finish it a la someone like 50 Cent.

EDIT: For the record, I don't know that the Drake/Diddy story is 100% true, but it fits his M.O.

He's like the Julien Blanc of R&B, hahaha

HSLD

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

The sad thing is Chris could probably show up at any major college in this country and pull a freshman hottie just off fame game

- badder than Karreuche

- way less headache

- groom her to his liking

These cats need a Game starter kit

[jariel]

(12-08-2014 04:10 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

EDIT: For the record, I don't know that the Drake/Diddy story is 100% true, but it fits his M.O.

It's true, I know a couple of bottle girls that always work LIV on Sundays and they said it went down outside.

The celebs are all here for Art Basel.

[OGNorCal707]

(12-08-2014 04:21 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

Also:

"I just want baby girl to know I apologize!"








I think he keeps digging his own grave deeper, and making himself look really weak for apologizing for shit. It may have been lame for him to air out his feeling on social media, (especially since he's the "these hoes ain't loyal" guy), but apologizing to "baby girl" is just pathetic.

Reading this and the other Omarion guy's threads is making me feel better about myself. I guess everyone's human and can catch feelings, but like Detroit Playas said this dude could roll to any college campus in the U.S. and pull way hotter 18 year old chicks no problem, he should roll over to UCSB for a long weekend.

Not only should he have known better being the "loyal" guy, but I think Tuth said it well that she was a freaky chick who he said he did 3somes with, so you figure he would have known she wasn't going to be the loyal type. I think with a lot of guys our ego's trick us into thinking that we are "special" and that this girl who is a total freak and former slut will be faithful and true to us since she is so "madly in love" and "devoted", when in reality it's all just bullshit.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Pay attention at this jedi mind trick fellas

She cheated on him with his arch nemesis

Yet - he's the one apologizing and she appears to at peace with moving on?

*Appears to make him lose even more value due to him pining for this bitch

[jariel]

(12-08-2014 04:21 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

[TravelerKai]

Blasians
Bad ass Yellabones
Redbones

All these women can write their own meal tickets when even celebs get sprung like this over them. Their egos and attitudes are ultra bad for the reasons we see above on Chris Brown's simping. Guys like this fuck up the game for everyone. Any woman in these categories, even when butterfaced like a motherfucker act like 10s. If he would take time to date women in Asia or Europe, he could take that Blasian off the pedastal easily. She hot but not worth all that shit. No hoe is.

[jariel]

(12-08-2014 05:24 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Blasians
Bad ass Yellabones
Redbones

All these women can write their own meal tickets when even celebs get sprung like this over them. Their egos and attitudes are ultra bad for the reasons we see above on Chris Brown's simping. Guys like this fuck up the game for everyone. Any woman in these categories, even when butterfaced like a motherfucker act like 10s. If he would take time to date women in Asia or Europe, he could take that Blasian off the pedastal easily. She hot but not worth all that shit. No hoe is.

I would say one of the baddest chicks I've had was this chick who is half-Black and half-Thai, she was completely Asian looking, skin-tone, facial features, etc. but she had a Black woman's body, I couldn't stop smashing, I have all of our pics and vids saved on multiple drives, but she was completely fucked up in the head, I got it in on her pussy, but in the end, I had to get her out of my life.

Women come and go, when they're in your life, you have to get what you want out of them, then you get rid of them either when you're done getting what you want or before shit gets too complicated and you'd rather not deal with the complications.

[WalterBlack]

(12-08-2014 05:24 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Blasians
Bad ass Yellabones
Redbones

All these women can write their own meal tickets when even celebs get sprung like this over them. Their egos and attitudes are ultra bad for the reasons we see above on Chris Brown's simping. Guys like this fuck up the game for everyone. Any woman in these categories, even when butterfaced like a motherfucker act like 10s. If he would take time to date women in Asia or Europe, he could take that Blasian off the pedastal easily. She hot but not worth all that shit. No hoe is.

A lot of the women that the rappers or R’n’B singers are banging – how many of them are quality women? Most of them seem to be pretty trashy and their claim to fame is trashy photos on Instagram. Would any A-list Hollywood star or rock star want to be seen in public with them? I doubt many would even admit to banging them in private. You would never see any of these women in a modelling show or in a mainstream movie. The height of their career is having some simp rapper’s kid, and/or flashing their arsecrack on Instagram.

The hottest models are all banging film stars, rock singers, soccer players etc…not the kind of people who run in Drake and Chris Brown’s circles.