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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them
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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them

Some cool but intimidating stuff written by a girl

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The room was dimly lit, but even in the gloom I spotted him immediately, languidly propped up against the bar in his black tie, more handsome than any man has a right to be, surrounded by beautiful girls.
They parted like the Red Sea as I walked up to him, my darling gorgeous boyfriend. I’d spent hours getting ready: big hair perfectly tousled, red lipstick slicked on; short gold frock I’d broken the bank to buy.
He smiled, took my hand and said: ‘Look at you.’ Pause. ‘Your hair’s all over the place, your mouth is too wide and your nose is too big. But I love you.’

Was I hurt, or angry? No. I was flattered. And much as I’m ashamed to say it, I was grateful too. After all, it seemed scarcely believable that someone as fabulous as him could love someone as insignificant as me.

We didn’t have a name for his behaviour back in the Eighties, but today we do. It’s called ‘negging’ — an extraordinary seduction ‘technique’ based on criticism, hurtfulness and downright rudeness.
According to the Urban Dictionary, an online dictionary of common slang, ‘Negs’ are ‘low-grade insults meant to undermine the self-confidence of a woman so she might be more vulnerable to advances’.
‘Negging’ has become big business. Seminars, blogs and online forums all purport to teach men how to ‘neg’ women into bed, working on the extraordinary premise that insulting and knocking her down will make her more malleable and willing. And that then throwing her a kind word or a scrap of love, like chucking a bone to a starving dog, is the most psychologically effective means of making a woman want a man.

It is, I suppose, the modern version of the horrible maxim ‘treat them mean, keep them keen’. And I am ashamed to say it worked for that long-ago boyfriend — and, to my utter horror, looks like it will continue to work for the next generation, too.
My boyfriend was an artful and instinctive negger long before it became what it is now — an international movement and supposed ‘artform’, practised by self-styled ‘pick-up artists’ (PUAs) who learn at the feet of so-called gurus such as Julien Blanc.
Barred from these shores earlier this month by Home Secretary Theresa May after an online petition was signed by 150,000 people, Swiss-born Blanc is the deeply misogynistic U.S.-based negger who exists at the extreme end of the PUA movement and charges men $3,000 (£2,000) to learn the dark arts of female manipulation at boot camps.

The general technique, seduction as subjugation, has gained a frighteningly large following, and demands that we ask why many modern men regard it with such disgusting glee. Blanc himself admits of his teachings: ‘It’s offensive. It’s inappropriate. It’s emotionally scarring. But it’s damn effective.’
When I first heard about ‘negging’ in the wake of the furore surrounding Blanc, I talked to my girlfriends, and many shamefacedly confessed to having been on the receiving end of such behaviour, as young women and into middle age.
One said she was recently approached by a nice-looking, slightly podgy man in the local pub, who piped up: ‘You’re brave wearing skinny jeans.’ Then: ‘I’m really turned on by big women.’
She’s a size 14. She replied: ‘Sadly for you, I’m not turned on by middle-aged idiots.’

At least as older women, if insults still get chucked at us, we are more likely to be equipped to hit back.
But it’s different for younger women, who seem much more susceptible to the PUA’s contemptuous subliminal message. And that message is one that ultimately aims to shatter self-confidence. After all, say psychologists, a woman who feels ‘imperfect’ almost always demands less from a partner.
Low self-esteem leads to a craving for approval. It may all be a tawdry and disgusting game to the ‘neggers’, but such behaviour has its roots in credible psychology.
How often have I listened to my friends’ daughters agonising over the casual if not callous way a boy is treating her. The agony of waiting for a text, the disappearance after sex, the insecurity, the way young men build them up just to knock them down. But that’s the ‘neg’ technique.
Young people are quite cruel in the dating game. They commit and marry a decade later than we did, so have a lot of time to play the field and to wreak havoc in it.
In today’s dating landscape, the horrid practice of rating the opposite sex on a one-to-ten scale seems ‘normal’ and widespread.
The basic principle here is that you can’t date a person who is three points higher than you — which is where ‘negging’ comes in. The six boy gets a ten girl in his sights and the only way to have sex with her is to make her feel like a three.
By devaluing her she becomes within his reach. In the process he makes a clever young woman feel like a loser — and a bewilderingly large number of today’s girls seem to embrace that feeling with something akin to martyrdom.
Why do they have such low self-esteem? Part of the problem lies within the existence of Facebook and Twitter.

By devaluing her she becomes within his reach. In the process he makes a clever young woman feel like a loser

The virtual world is doing half the neggers’ work for them. Every thought, action and encounter, is accompanied by a constant and often cruel online commentary that they’re not good enough, clever enough or slim enough. And as a result, in some strange way, they’ve become addicted to being put down.
There were certainly neggers on the scene when I was a girl, but we weren’t such easy prey.
Where young people today are in contact at all hours of the day and night, we spoke to boys on the landline telephone — how quaint! — for no more than a few minutes at a time. We made our own clothes. Now girls have to look cool, wear the right designers, be gorgeous, be funny, and conform to a rigid set of suffocating ‘norms’.
And it erodes their self-confidence. Just as it does dating a boy who’s obsessed with internet porn, for example, and who expects female bodies to look like the ones on the screen.
Or to be immersed in a teen culture where pop stars promote sexual availability, skinniness, and an unattainable fantasy of what a young woman is really like or should be.


[Image: dodgy.gif][Image: dodgy.gif][Image: dodgy.gif] And the PUAs, the despicable Blancs of this world, exploit that vulnerability.
The PUA culture really kicked off more than a decade ago with the bestselling book The Game, by Neil Strauss. It claimed to penetrate the secret society of pick-up artists, offering techniques and strategies with one sole purpose — having sex with women, then ditching them.
It doesn’t take too much surfing of Julien Blanc’s ‘manosphere’ — the informal network of blogs and websites set up by men in opposition to feminism — to realise that it is populated by a bunch of nerdy losers. [Image: dodgy.gif][Image: dodgy.gif][Image: dodgy.gif]

[Image: dodgy.gif] Hopeless, hapless men who feel lost in a world of accomplished young women. They feel emasculated, like spare parts, and the only way of hitting on women is to knock them down to their own size.
Indeed, I’d heartily recommend that every young woman reads one of these obnoxious sites to see exactly what they’re up to. Try seductionscience.com, perhaps, which claims to offer ‘advice’ to loser men. Some of it is too vulgar to be repeated in a family newspaper, but its ethos is summed up by Jesse Charger, the ‘seduction guru’ who runs the site.[Image: dodgy.gif][Image: dodgy.gif][Image: dodgy.gif]

‘This should be a mantra in your head every time you see a woman that stirs your loins . . . “She just wants to be bent over and have her hair pulled!” ’
Any woman who’s visited the site should be able spot the signs she is being ‘negged’ — before running a mile.
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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them

This white girl is way too happy to type neggers.

WIA
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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them

Well played WIA, well played.

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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them

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Was I hurt, or angry? No. I was flattered. And much as I’m ashamed to say it, I was grateful too. After all, it seemed scarcely believable that someone as fabulous as him could love someone as insignificant as me.

What an insane article. She negates her whole premise in the second paragraph.

Later she goes on to say,

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When I first heard about ‘negging’ in the wake of the furore surrounding Blanc, I talked to my girlfriends, and many shamefacedly confessed to having been on the receiving end of such behaviour, as young women and into middle age.
One said she was recently approached by a nice-looking, slightly podgy man in the local pub, who piped up: ‘You’re brave wearing skinny jeans.’ Then: ‘I’m really turned on by big women.’
She’s a size 14. She replied: ‘Sadly for you, I’m not turned on by middle-aged idiots.’

So clearly it doesn't work all the time.

I think something she and early PUAs both got wrong is that negging isn't necessarily about displaying social dominance or value. In fact it can be a very powerful form of bonding. What women ignore when they talk about negging is that men neg each other all the fucking time - we just say we're busting each others balls. And women do it to too, though often in more subtle ways. Gentle teasing and ribbing is a way of showing that you're comfortable enough with somebody to tell them a benign insult. In her first example her hair and makeup were prefect - the guy was playfully acknowledging that she was stunning by telling her she looked like a mess but loved her anyway. In the second example the insult wasn't benign. The woman was older and likely very sensitive about her nice size 14 body (my guess is it used to be smaller). In that case it was miss calibrated and seen as an outright attack. If instead she'd been younger, thin, and not sensitive about her weight it likely would have been a good neg.
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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them

Negs have been around since the Roman Empire. Ovid wrote that you should flatter a woman on something bad about her. If she has an ugly nose you tell her you like her pretty nose. It is ambiguous and she wont know if its and insult or a complement.

Don't debate me.
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An Article: Why women like me fall in love with men who belittle them

$100 says the old BF of hers:

Was and is out of her league.
Was always banging other hotter chicks.
Is now banging someone hotter and younger than her.

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Quote: (11-27-2014 06:55 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

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When I first heard about ‘negging’ in the wake of the furore surrounding Blanc, I talked to my girlfriends, and many shamefacedly confessed to having been on the receiving end of such behaviour, as young women and into middle age.
One said she was recently approached by a nice-looking, slightly podgy man in the local pub, who piped up: ‘You’re brave wearing skinny jeans.’ Then: ‘I’m really turned on by big women.’
She’s a size 14. She replied: ‘Sadly for you, I’m not turned on by middle-aged idiots.’

So clearly it doesn't work all the time.

I think something she and early PUAs both got wrong is that negging isn't necessarily about displaying social dominance or value. In fact it can be a very powerful form of bonding. What women ignore when they talk about negging is that men neg each other all the fucking time - we just say we're busting each others balls. And women do it to too, though often in more subtle ways. Gentle teasing and ribbing is a way of showing that you're comfortable enough with somebody to tell them a benign insult. In her first example her hair and makeup were prefect - the guy was playfully acknowledging that she was stunning by telling her she looked like a mess but loved her anyway. In the second example the insult wasn't benign. The woman was older and likely very sensitive about her nice size 14 body (my guess is it used to be smaller). In that case it was miss calibrated and seen as an outright attack. If instead she'd been younger, thin, and not sensitive about her weight it likely would have been a good neg.

Good negs are done in a light teasing way and resemble more banter. When men attempt negs at first, they come off wrong - when they continue with learning Game, they become better.

Teasing a size 14 older woman about her weight is really no way to go forward. The more ugly, the older and the fatter she is, the less you really need to tease her. In the most extreme cases no tease should be applied at all.

Any guy who would be somewhat aware of Game should also know that you don't really need much teasing for a fat 30+ year old or older.

And yes - this aging post wall-woman is like many others attacking negs, because they seem to be misogynist to the fem-centric media. The problem is that they actually work, when done right. Think of how little girls are - they react in glee and laughter when a father teases them about some point. They have plenty of fun with it - the grown woman is similar. She likes to be teased as part of the seduction process, if she has any notable sexual market value left.

A fat older woman has no tease left in her - she needs only compliments or she reacts viciously. A simple "HI" should have been enough for her.

The author who was "negged":

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Even if one of us 60+ year olds who felt like approaching her, he would know that teasing an olde battleship like her is no way to go forward.
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^^ not only does she write ridiculous articles, she thinks it was smart to get pregnant at her age. Selfish bitch.

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As usual with these Dailymail articles, the best comments are the worst rated.

"I agree, it's definitely used by losers. Those blessed by good genes don't need this. But these seminars do work and make less desirable men more attractive. It's all based on making you more attractive and younger women do fall for it. And it only works on attractive women. In fact its specifically designed to build attraction to better looking women. This doesn't work on average looking women."

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Ah!! This article is what I call seeing the world through a woman's eyes!! The beginning was kinda ok at best, then she went on to blame society (aka men) for the way things are going, while not even having the reflex of acknowledging that women are the one criticizing other women about material possessions and rejecting or using men that cater to them!!

I don't even get mad anymore about this! Women are built on emotions and see the world through them, therefore it's extremely hard for them to have a "Birds eye view" about the world. That's why there's a whole lot of sad bitches in the world!! As men we might be missing a little by not having a great wife by our side, but bitches from the west are loosing their mind about not having a husband that keeps them in check, and have no idea why they're so crazy. Just Sad!!
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Quote: (11-29-2014 09:00 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

...That's why there's a whole lot of sad bitches in the world!! As men we might be missing a little by not having a great wife by our side, but bitches from the west are losing their mind about not having a husband that keeps them in check, and have no idea why they're so crazy. Just Sad!!

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You might be on to something there - hehe. That's literary gold right there.
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At least she admits that negging works. Most females are delusional in the sense that they think that it is something that never works or never has worked on them. It's just amazing how treating women like shit gets you further, then they blame men for this behavior. Funny since they are the enablers of this, rewarding the assholes and spurning the guys that treat them well.
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Negging is a variation of bratty little sister game. It's supposed to be done playfully. That's the part most guys don't understand. They throw out random insults at women and expect them to bite. It's all about your tone, your vibe, your delivery. It's like stand up comedy. Comedians say some rude and fucked up things but taken in the right context it's funny and persuasive. Being witty and charming is an artform. It's also mentally exhausting sometimes [Image: lol.gif]

That's the problem I have with game. If you turn them on with your personality you have to keep that level of attention up or they lose interest. If you attract women with your looks or money it's easier to keep their attention even in the down time when you feel like vegging out, not showering and playing video games all day.

That's why guys have to work on being a triple threat. Fix your looks by working out hard, grooming yourself and dressing fashionably. Fix your finances by working hard, studying and bettering your career. And fix your game and personality by putting on some mileage. Go see the world. Interact with people. Get into trouble. Go find yourself. "Sow your royal oats"(Coming to America). Struggle through life's hardships and earn your soul. Only then will you have stories to tell and some solid game.

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Quote: (11-27-2014 04:34 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

This white girl is way too happy to type neggers.

WIA





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