[Suave]

Currently in Poznan for the weekend. I endorse daygaming but everyone on here recommends night-clubbing. This is the problem, although I have gone to clubs before in my native country in New Zealand, I have zero night game. I just never got into it. I've made a decision though, tonight I will leave in 5 hours time from my apartment for a big night (hopefully).

I know this forum has a whole bunch of tips, but considering the time that I have on me, I don't have the luxury to read through multiple threads and pick them out. If it isn't too much to ask, can guys with experience in clubbing, particularly those familiar with the Polish (Poznan) night scene drop a few lines of advice for a complete beginner (from the moment you get in, to approaching, to escalating, etc).

Suave

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

1) Go to Czekolada, on Ulitsa Wrocławska. It's your best chance for the flag.

2) Use simple openers - you don't need much more than that. "You look like you speak really good English" or "You look like you're not from here" should do you fine. If she's interested at all it'll be fairly obvious pretty quick. Likely cause she'll ask where you are from.

3) Make sure to isolate and ask if she's single. Don't bother if she says anything other than an unambiguous "yes."

4) Get the kiss on the dance floor once you move her there. Don't overdo the kissing - that's a good way to trigger anti-slut defense, and you'll walk away with only a number or nothing at all.

5) Don't buy her a drink until after you get the kiss.

6) Seed for the pull by suggesting an afterparty or drinking somewhere else. If she's willing (you did remember not to trigger ASD, right?) she should go with. Then, just steer her to your place, and escalate through any last-minute resistance you get until you get the notch.

Good luck!

HSLD

[The Nude Matador]

Hey Suave, I sent you a PM.

[Cheetah]

(11-22-2014 12:21 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

1) Go to Czekolada, on Ulitsa Wrocławska. It's your best chance for the flag.

2) Use simple openers - you don't need much more than that. "You look like you speak really good English" or "You look like you're not from here" should do you fine. If she's interested at all it'll be fairly obvious pretty quick. Likely cause she'll ask where you are from.

3) Make sure to isolate and ask if she's single. Don't bother if she says anything other than an unambiguous "yes."

4) Get the kiss on the dance floor once you move her there. Don't overdo the kissing - that's a good way to trigger anti-slut defense, and you'll walk away with only a number or nothing at all.

5) Don't buy her a drink until after you get the kiss.

6) Seed for the pull by suggesting an afterparty or drinking somewhere else. If she's willing (you did remember not to trigger ASD, right?) she should go with. Then, just steer her to your place, and escalate through any last-minute resistance you get until you get the notch.

Good luck!

HSLD

Have I misunderstood the bit that you more or less should always escalate as much as possible, or the exception only applies to Polish girls?

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(11-23-2014 06:53 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Have I misunderstood the bit that you more or less should always escalate as much as possible, or the exception only applies to Polish girls?

A make-out isn't really escalating unless you're in a place where sex is immediately possible - otherwise you're just showing your hand too early and it increases the chance of triggering ASD. That applies in general, not just Polish chicks.

HSLD

[Cheetah]

^^^^^

I still don't understand. I've had a girl who I made out with and touching her and I am sure that I lost her by not groping and touching her more..

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(11-23-2014 08:46 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

^^^^^

I still don't understand. I've had a girl who I made out with and touching her and I am sure that I lost her by not groping and touching her more..

Everyone's going to have examples where making out or not making out lost them the bang.

But my experience has been that makeouts have cockblocked me more often than not, because it defuses sexual tension without allowing you to escalate (assuming you're not at your/her place and you can't freely escalate.)

It's gonna be a case-by-case snap decision for you anyways, so go with what your gut tells you is best. But not doing a makeout and just restraining at the kiss helped me get my Polish flag, so I'm going to start trying it out more often to see if it does any better for me.

HSLD

[bigbait]

(11-23-2014 09:03 AM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:46 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

^^^^^

I still don't understand. I've had a girl who I made out with and touching her and I am sure that I lost her by not groping and touching her more..

Everyone's going to have examples where making out or not making out lost them the bang.

But my experience has been that makeouts have cockblocked me more often than not, because it defuses sexual tension without allowing you to escalate (assuming you're not at your/her place and you can't freely escalate.)

It's gonna be a case-by-case snap decision for you anyways, so go with what your gut tells you is best. But not doing a makeout and just restraining at the kiss helped me get my Polish flag, so I'm going to start trying it out more often to see if it does any better for me.

HSLD

You always have to make a game-time decision based on:
1) the local culture
2) the specific girl
3) your time frame
4) the vibe of the interaction - does it feel like a date?

Some more specific situations:
1) are you going to the club to get leads for dates during the week? don't escalate as much
2) are you flying out tomorrow? - escalate all the way
3) if you know you are in a place where making out with you would be embarrassing to the girl - go someplace private and then escalate
4) if you know you're in a culture where the girls won't think you're a man if you don't escalate
5) if you are screening for DTF - then escalate

Also, saying that kissing eliminates sexual tension is too sweeping of a generalization. Depending on hnow you kiss you can build attraction, make the vibe more sexual, make your intentions more explicit, tease her, build compliance.