[ksbms]

It's hot in Poland, thus people shed their clothes. For a moment, thought I, I was in the UK, saw so many fat people strolling to and fro. Truly fat. It's going downhill fast and the end is nigh - some 10 years from now and it will be just like the UK. MacDonald's always busy, Poles fell in love with BigMac and fries.

Methinks, fast food joints better to defeat opponent then any other weapons. Fat people can't fight, right? OK, you can have automated systems, but you need to design, build, and operate them and fat people have cognitive capacities by excess sugar and fat affected.

httpss://polandin.com/37248352/polish-child-obesity-numbers-scaling-fastest-in-europe

[azulsombra]

What's the consensus on Poland in July and August? Obviously it won't be as lively as other parts of the year but if you have to be there what is it like in the cities?

Anyone got experience running game in Poland Mid-summer (outside of Gdansk/sopot)?

[_Samo_]

(Today 01:08 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

What's the consensus on Poland in July and August? Obviously it won't be as lively as other parts of the year but if you have to be there what is it like?

Anyone got experience running game in Poland Mid-summer?

Its not too bad for girls if you stay in Warsaw or Krakow or possibly the coast but other cities will be dead as uni is off. Allot of girls coming and going, visiting the big cities or ones that live there going somewhere else on holiday. Its not the best time of year to visit.

[David_889]

This is my 3rd time coming to Poland since 2018. I'll say it is a lot better for North America. I just resonate better with the people, the culture and the country.

I'm happy here and it probably affects all my interactions. I've made good friends here and it's far easier for me meeting girls, making emotional connections with them and moving on from there.

I'm now seeing a girl steady after a bit of degeneracy , but i gotta say the relationship aspect with girls here is awesome!

Hilariously enough, many of my buddies are conservative/nationalists..

[Mark Stew]

Comparing cities in Poland, I think the best city is Krakow. For many reasons. The food is tasty, the people are nice and flats for rent in Krakow are not expensive

[nampa]

I know Poland has been declining ever since the Wall fell, but is there anything left there? How many foreign visitors, how many migrant workers returning from W. Eur.? 

I like the idea of Poland, good English, fairly close, mostly European place.

[Artique]

Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

[Chapinero]

Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

I have been going to Poland since 2013 and i had a recent visit 2 weeks ago, i would say officially RIP Poland , one of the P*** paradise is over...

The country became full of foreign, the exotic factor is killed, further Ryanair & Wizzair gave the impression to Polish girls that they are independant and they can travel to sun and that they don't need anymore a man... 

Anyway for me the quality of checks have dropped and i would say again RIP Poland

[Artique]

Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

I have been going to Poland since 2013 and i had a recent visit 2 weeks ago, i would say officially RIP Poland , one of the P*** paradise is over...

The country became full of foreign, the exotic factor is killed, further Ryanair & Wizzair gave the impression to Polish girls that they are independant and they can travel to sun and that they don't need anymore a man... 

Anyway for me the quality of checks have dropped and i would say again RIP Poland

Well, I agree. I was in Warsaw two weeks before Easter and it was the first time I did not get laid. Previous time banged a 5 that searched my phone when I was pissing and guess what she found haha. Some belarussian beauties around but need too much time and effort, have kids as well. I don't do Ukrainians, they are too slow.

Where have you been in Poland by the way?

[Chapinero]

Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

I have been going to Poland since 2013 and i had a recent visit 2 weeks ago, i would say officially RIP Poland , one of the P*** paradise is over...

The country became full of foreign, the exotic factor is killed, further Ryanair & Wizzair gave the impression to Polish girls that they are independant and they can travel to sun and that they don't need anymore a man... 

Anyway for me the quality of checks have dropped and i would say again RIP Poland

Well, I agree. I was in Warsaw two weeks before Easter and it was the first time I did not get laid. Previous time banged a 5 that searched my phone when I was pissing and guess what she found haha. Some belarussian beauties around but need too much time and effort, have kids as well. I don't do Ukrainians, they are too slow.  Where have you been in Poland by the way?

I have been in Warsaw as well and in my previous visit i as getting laid with minimal effort.... My observation is like yours ; first of all it's almost impossible to match a Polish girl in Tinder, I dated a 9/10 Belarusian girl ( 21 year) but like you said she required all the attention and acting as a Princess. 

Ukrainian Girls in a short time ( since the War) they get more westernized than British or UK girls

So what's left as P**** Paradise? I'm thinking to explore Kazkhistan or Kirghizstan

[Chapinero]

Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

I have been going to Poland since 2013 and i had a recent visit 2 weeks ago, i would say officially RIP Poland , one of the P*** paradise is over...

The country became full of foreign, the exotic factor is killed, further Ryanair & Wizzair gave the impression to Polish girls that they are independant and they can travel to sun and that they don't need anymore a man... 

Anyway for me the quality of checks have dropped and i would say again RIP Poland

Well, I agree. I was in Warsaw two weeks before Easter and it was the first time I did not get laid. Previous time banged a 5 that searched my phone when I was pissing and guess what she found haha. Some belarussian beauties around but need too much time and effort, have kids as well. I don't do Ukrainians, they are too slow.  Where have you been in Poland by the way?

I have been in Warsaw as well and in my previous visit i as getting laid with minimal effort.... My observation is like yours ; first of all it's almost impossible to match a Polish girl in Tinder, I dated a 9/10 Belarusian girl ( 21 year) but like you said she required all the attention and acting as a Princess. 

Ukrainian Girls in a short time ( since the War) they get more westernized than British or UK girls

So what's left as P**** Paradise? I'm thinking to explore Kazkhistan or Kirghizstan

[Artique]

Yeah, forgot to mention, very few english speaking Polish girls on Tinder. It seems too many players killed the market. If you speak Polish, you may do well.
I'm thinking to try Wroclaw, but not sure. Have you been recently?

[nampa]

Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

Care to elaborate? to be truthful, every years since 1989 has been a better year in EE. I read an American English teacher in Poland, 1988, depicting how he was the hero in a protest against the workers' government then. 

Also, even with the shine of Westerners gone in Poland, from decades of Wokeness, raping the Western economies with remittances and EU transfers, the women are still no Western women, friendlier and in better shape.

What cities did you go to? ROosh was Poznan.

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Been to Poland three weeks ago. Poland is a shadow of itself. Tough as the West.

I have been going to Poland since 2013 and i had a recent visit 2 weeks ago, i would say officially RIP Poland , one of the P*** paradise is over...

The country became full of foreign, the exotic factor is killed, further Ryanair & Wizzair gave the impression to Polish girls that they are independant and they can travel to sun and that they don't need anymore a man... 

Anyway for me the quality of checks have dropped and i would say again RIP Poland

Ryanair is nothing new, and polish have been working through the anti-worker schengen scheme in W. Europe for decades. What finally killed it? I'm guessing social media?
I did tinder warsaw last year. Some matches, but the girls were quality, hotter than westerners, but much better non-pozzed head on their shoulders--feminity was nothing to write home about.

[Artique]

I lived opposite the building Roosh lived in Copernicus street in Poznan. A gay flag was waving. Crazy. Some gay / lesbian bars on the main road as well. I didn't know Poznan was so gay friendly lol. Poznan didn't strike me as a city where you can get multiple ONS, but I spent only a week there. Tried to bang a 5, but she would not come upstairs, because someone 'raped' her. Hope it was not Roosh lol. No big loss anyway.

I did Warsaw for two months over the last year. It's getting worse every single time I visit, I decided to stop traveling there. Really terrible attitudes from women similar to the West, busy women with schedules full of activities, no time to meet. Surprisingly, enough, only a few Tinder matches with English speaking women. I'm not visiting just for the women, but for the low cost of living in comparison to London where I am based, because I work remotely some months.

[Chapinero]

I lived opposite the building Roosh lived in Copernicus street in Poznan. A gay flag was waving. Crazy. Some gay / lesbian bars on the main road as well. I didn't know Poznan was so gay friendly lol. Poznan didn't strike me as a city where you can get multiple ONS, but I spent only a week there. Tried to bang a 5, but she would not come upstairs, because someone 'raped' her. Hope it was not Roosh lol. No big loss anyway.

I did Warsaw for two months over the last year. It's getting worse every single time I visit, I decided to stop traveling there. Really terrible attitudes from women similar to the West, busy women with schedules full of activities, no time to meet.  Surprisingly, enough, only a few Tinder matches with English speaking women. I'm not visiting just for the women, but for the low cost of living in comparison to London where I am based, because I work remotely some months.

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That what I've noticed recently, Women schedule in Warsaw is busy of extra work activities : Yoga, Bachata , bla bla bla 

Again I will blame Rynair which opened their eyes ; making a girl who can afford a low cost flight ticket and 5 Euro Prosseco that she is Queen of the World, independant & feministe ..... I know few Polish girls travelling frequently to Spain & Italy to meet according to them '' Hot guys''  

The only thing left in Poland is International girls (excluding Ukranian who are according to me get westernized so quickly & maintain the worst attitude among slavic girls ) ... When the war started and they started moving to Warsaw , 70% of the girls i banged were Ukrainians.... few weeks when i came back, I realized that the majority of Ukranians are looking for a ''meal or Drink voucher'' 

I made a mistake to date one of them who somehow has chosen  a fancy place where we will meet ( I know It's a basic to never let a girl Lead) and next day she disappeared. 

[Artique]

Never trust or invest in Ukrainians. They express exactly what's wrong with women today. I don't even buy them tea or coffee.

How many dates did it take to have sex with Ukrainians? Hard to believe you even had sex with these soulless gold-diggers.

[Sandstorm]

Shame to hear this about Poland - I've never visited. A buddy of mine is always telling me it's the best ever but he seems to have forgotten that last time he went he said it had changed and wasn't the same. Rose-tinted glasses I guess.

I think I'll visit Taiwan before it gets nuked. Love me some of dat Chinese pussy....

[Topikrok]

Haven't been to Poland since the Ukraine war.

One thing I remember is that women over 30 years old in Poland were ball breakers and serial daters. So I would always be very straightforward with them to not waste my time with cumdumpsters who refuse to be cumdumpsters.

So it's become full of ukrainian gold-diggers now? Lol

[Artique]

Yep, cheap sex tourists will have a hard time in the new normal. There is also decline in terms of foreigner reception. Poland is not what it used to be ten years ago. Women behave ike in the West, you must live there .

[Artique]

To reiterate, speaking Polish is a game changer, otherwise you are dealing with the foreigner groupies which are not easy at all.

[nampa]

I lived opposite the building Roosh lived in Copernicus street in Poznan. A gay flag was waving. Crazy. Some gay / lesbian bars on the main road as well. I didn't know Poznan was so gay friendly lol. Poznan didn't strike me as a city where you can get multiple ONS, but I spent only a week there. Tried to bang a 5, but she would not come upstairs, because someone 'raped' her. Hope it was not Roosh lol. No big loss anyway.

I did Warsaw for two months over the last year. It's getting worse every single time I visit, I decided to stop traveling there. Really terrible attitudes from women similar to the West, busy women with schedules full of activities, no time to meet.  Surprisingly, enough, only a few Tinder matches with English speaking women. I'm not visiting just for the women, but for the low cost of living in comparison to London where I am based, because I work remotely some months.

How did we figure out roosh's location? I believe he chose that city due to its high density college chicks. 
What is a decent EU place, at this point?

[nampa]

I had a reader send me a barrage of questions and comments about how he's doing in Poland here in 2019. I'd love to be able to modify my original post with some more up-to-date information from some people on the ground in Poland.

If you have any thoughts to share beyond this, definitely let me know what you think. The reader's comments are in italics and my response is normal font.

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On the one hand, I see it. On the other hand, I just don’t.

I feel like you need minor social circle to do well in Krakow these days. I have about an 80% approach to number close ratio – just under half of which get responses and usually some pretty engaged/flirtatious ones. But the leads die so quick. They won’t meet up and I even just got a text while writing this:

“My boyfriend says I shouldn’t give my number to guys on the street…I think he’s right. Please don’t be mad.”

But the fact that a boyfriend has to actually SAY this to a girl just goes to show how generally weak most men in today’s modern world are. Girls aren’t that dumb. She’s looking to upgrade.

The only high probability date I have after about a month straight of more than 1x cold approached to solo girls that for the most part really hooked is with a partly American Polish med student I med student. She’s cool but she’s probably a Polish 6 and it’s clear to me anyway that she’s thinking boyfriend zone.

Krakow is MUCH better than Budapest, Slovakia, Serbia, Bosnia, and even Romania/Bulgaria than all the other EE places I’ve yet tried for meeting girls…but honestly my memories of actually getting laid from cold appraoch more than 1x every 2 months in America still seem much better!!!!!

Do you hear anything from other guys who read your blog about Poland in 2019? I am getting OK Tinder matches but nowhere near the 100s you report. Everyone is bitching about PL on RVF including Roosh himself.

Let’s clear something up here, I haven’t swiped in Poland since 2016.

I have no idea what the current state of Tinder in Poland is, and whether or not I could replicate the same successes I found three+ years ago…

What do you think? If you use FakeGPS and port here are you still getting those Tinder matches?

…nor do I have the desire or time to try to figure it out.

Would Poland still be what it was for you if you came now?

I have no idea—but my gut feeling is no, based simply off of what I hear via the grapevine. I think something like Tinder would be worse, but I’d probably be able to get access to hotter girls via social circle and simply higher status. In simple terms, while the overall dating might have dropped—I’m also far more experienced, travelled, and wealthy than I was before. I reckon I’d do just fine.

If you think the prime countries / cities have changed a bit, maybe it’s worth levelling with your readers. Or better yet don’t – so the places aren’t burned...

I have little to no desire to continue writing and producing products around dating abroad. Simply put, it changes too fast. It’s difficult to keep up with how much it can evolve without traveling. A lot.

In addition, the general guy who is looking to get abroad is often times trying to do so while simultaneously spending the least amount of money (i.e. it's hard to do business like that).

But anyways, sure, I can level with y’all.

From what I *hear* out in the world, it is getting harder and harder. I also believe that a place like RVF—which has made me so many wonderful friends over the years—is also flooded by this point. There’s a lot of guys that are joining now that are really starting from square zero (+ many lurkers)—not that there’s anything wrong with that.

But, let's just say in some of my group chats (many of us have moved off the forum and just use WhatsApp chats to communicate now, there's still plenty of guys who are getting plenty of action with some pretty damn fine looking girls.). This is a natural progression of a community, for better or worse.

Haven’t tried Sympatia or Night Game yet, at all. So will try those next.

1 out of 20 Tinder matches reply and those leads die fast. I’ve gotten two numbers total off Tinder (using boost, plus, gold, autoswipe the whole time – carefully crafted pics and bio) and they both ended up being a massive waste of time.

Maybe it’s just my relative social capital in both places, but I remember 2009-2012 NYC as MUCH better for cold approach than this.

Probably a lot of my game/value is only conveyed verbally – and maybe you need to have a certain amount of Westernization/education yourself to get the results I’ve gotten in the past. Maybe it’s a race thing that is a much bigger penalty out here than back home. But it is frustrating for sure.

The thing thats not terrible about the US, at least big cities, is even a girl isn’t going to fuck you if she’s cool and you cold approach you can still kind of add each other to your social circles. That doesn’t always lead to good outcomes becomes the worst girls tend to be the most receptive to CA, BUT in huge cities like SF or NYC where everyone is from elsewhere it can also lead to really awesome outcomes.

A big mistake of going abroad is thinking you are going to be an “insider” into a culture. In reality, you have to really, really integrate yourself before you can feel that way. I’ve been out here for over three years now and still don’t really feel much like a “local”, if you know what I mean…

Overall though, yes, the world’s dating market is becoming more…well, global.

A Russian girl in Siberia can now be approached by a rich playboy in the Côte d’Azur.

It also means your average American 9-5 drone—unhappy with the dating market in the States—can also approach this same Siberian girl. It goes both ways…

The main way you get spoilt in EE is the avg girl is so much more feminine and takes such better care of herself and you. And you can leave a lot of your cultural baggage behind.

But if you can’t fuck them and/or even if you do but you can’t really connect…..how much better is it really?

Relationships?

I mean, I get it, they’re not for everyone. But I think many a foreign women are on to the “game” these days. Foreigners who fly in for a few weeks, hook up, and then disappear into the abyss. They’re wise to it by now. What’s the point, other than a novel factor which isn’t even novel anymore because any girl can do it.

Simply put, times have changed.

You either adapt, or die.

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If you have some thoughts, let's hear 'em...

THis is Kyle Trouble, a big ROK and Matt Forney podcast guy. He since has seemed to become a businessman, with some king of labor pool firm that hooks up low-end businessmen with remote EE personal assistants. How is he making his money? How does anyone make more money overseas?

[Artique]

Currently in Warsaw, after Skopia/Belgrade/ Krakow. If anyone's around, let's grab a drink!

[Danger5]

OK, so I had my first trip to Poland in December 2022. I have no idea how things used to be. But I have had some good occurrences there. In particular, a Ukrainian 9. Warsaw is where everyone makes money, Gdansk is overrun with families, and tourists. Poznan seemed slightly better, but the construction fucks up any day game potential. Hoping to see Wroclaw soon.