[joker]

Hey guys, so I wanted to know what you guys do when you see a chick you want to approach. What is your opener? I've read that frame is more important than your actual game so is it a bad idea if you see a girl that you find attractive that you say something as simple as "hey i think you're pretty and wanted to get your number". I think that if you project confidence and deliver it as if it simply as a question it could be successful. What are your thoughts on this?

[Cobra]

Have you used the search function at all?

Giovonny's posts would be a start but forum guidelines would be an even better start.

My personal advice : just start approaching and don't think about frame as much right now.

Buy Bang and Day Bang.

[Alpha]

(10-23-2014 08:35 PM)joker Wrote:  

"hey i think you're pretty and wanted to get your number".

The word "pretty" comes off as weak and a bit too affectionate. My sister is pretty, my wife is beautiful, the chick at the bar that I haven't spoken to is 'hot', the one I have spoken to is 'cute.'

Better opener would be,

"I like your vibe. How about you buy me a drink?"

or, playing off what you originally wrote,

"You're cute enough, I guess we can chat."

While you should be careful about the words you use in an opener, you are right in assuming that delivery is vital.

I agree with Cobra - search a bit next time, check through blog archives and such, and buy bang and day bang.

[Bacchus]

Honestly, the opener doesn't matter so much as the delivery. I've gone up to girls, said "Hey," and pulled. Don't overthink it.

[Travesty]

If we are talking about day game I would say directions, asking where something is close by (a good pizza place? a smoothie place? whatever), complimenting or asking about something she has on her, the dog she is walking etc... going direct saying she looks good, nice, or cute today all work too. The only tough part about direct is sometimes there can be a bit more of an awkward transition to normal conversation. The problem I have with direct is if they are receptive I get the number to soon without establishing a connection with her and I get flakes.

Your biggest thing is NOT the opener. In actually getting a girl to want to show up on a date and eventually bang are 2 things I've noticed:

1) The interaction has to last at least 5 minutes, 15-20 minutes is optimal.

2) You get her to laugh and smile broadly a handful of times.

Yes I have gotten dates after 30 second number or 2 minute number close... it rarely ends up in a date or an eventual bang on the whole.

The more in depth the conversation is about *personal* things the more likely she is to pick up the phone. It is great to start off talking about the environment around you are the situation you are in, but I think it is vital you get personal before getting the phone number or you come off as too much of a stranger.

I have been guilty of being perfectly fine in a set and I get the number too fast... as long as she isn't in a hurry to leave... as long as her feet are planted facing you KEEP RAMBLING... try to make it last so you stick in her head.