[themilkman]

Given that there has been multiple threads regarding how members have gotten into game, how they are utilizing game to meet women and how they continue to improve their game, I wanted to create a thread dedicated to how your game has progressed as whole.

As an example, I recently swallowed the red pill at the age of 23, after a 3 year relationship. I have always been a relationship driven guy, maybe out of comfort and desire to not be lonely. I have also always relied on being decently good looking and being in very good shape. Honestly I think the only times I made an active effort to chase girls, I ended up dating both for extensive periods of time. After committing to the red pill mindset and actively gaming and approaching women I have learned a ton about my personal mindset and gender dynamics. Most importantly I have instilled the not giving a fcuk mindset which is so vital for thriving in this lifestyle.

While there have been numerous posts dedicated to discussing what you wish you knew about game when you first began or even what you wish you knew in your 20s, I thought a discussion on how your game has manifested itself would be helpful to the younger members.

[WestIndianArchie]

Day 0
- scared of approaching
- scared of talking
- scared of rejection
- scared of making the first move
- overjoyed at success
- clingy

Day 1/0 (infinity for the mathematically disinclined)
- not scared of approaching, talking, rejection, escalating
- success is assumed
- emotionally distant

Now, if I see a non-Asian chick that I find attractive, if it's convenient I know I can go over there and get a good conversation popping, because i'm willing to talk about things in polite company and go places that other guys won't. I shake a chick out of her "representative" role. Some are very glad to get "naked". You do it enough, you'll be shocked how repressed people are. Even "open" chicks are sometimes playing a role. Getting to that kernel of truth, especially if you do it well, is good game, imo. And in my experience, that turns you from a wall flower/non-entity to a real guy.

I heard about the game in 99. Got me feet wet in 00. Every chick i've messed with since 2002 comes from me being pro-active and going after shit that I want, not chicks that were close and convenient. (well, I'd say most chicks, sometimes nearby broads are very inviting)

As an aside - Asian-American chicks represent some kinda mental block. Fresh from Asia chicks are no problem to me. Maybe that crush on Hong Nguyen back in High School fucked me over. I dunno.

But anyway with progress you have two demons

1) Internal Self Doubt Demon

- don't do that
- don't say this

^This is a voice that you know is wrong most of the time. Yet you follow it anyway.

this stops you from
- approaching
- from talking
- from responding
- from physically escalating
- from changing locations
- from sexually escalating

But it also stops you from
- leaving your bullshit job
- giving your all in a competitive sport
- getting rid of toxic friends and family
- eating right and working out

Self Doubt is UNFOUNDED in ALL CASES. It's a biological impulse that allows the species to survive, but you have to control it in order to THRIVE.

2) Rejection Demon

These two things are somewhat intertwined. You don't approach because you're afraid of rejection. That's what the voice is saving you from.

Say you do get your nuts up and go talk to that 10, and things don't go as planned.

Dealing with the instant emotional fall out is of crucial importance, because you don't want 1 failure to strengthen the voice of doubt.

There's no secret here. Decide that a set back doesn't kill the game for you, and press on.

Mastering Self Doubt and Dealing with Rejection will open the world for you. I haven't totally mastered them myself, but everytime that I push through either of those things, I get what I want, or closer to it

WIA

[keysersoze]

Beta Phase: I was in a two year relationship. I didn't believe I could ever get another girl, or at least one as good as my current at the time. Most sexy girls intimidated me.

Just Discovered Game Phase (July): Still reclusive in class and at bars. I made efforts to talk to girls and acted confident, but I never felt man enough to take a girl home and have sex with her. Most of my approaches were awkward and my body language was off, but lifting weights and determination to grow into the man I wanted to be kept me pushing forward. I got a couple notches under my belt before fall classes began, but was still getting slightly emotionally invested.

Current Status: Getting laid on weekend nights has become easy. I've had sex with girls much better than my ex. The confidence I exert is real. My posture and body language are dominant and self assured. I've put on 10+ pounds of muscle. I don't care about rejection and no girl is now on a pedestal. However, I still somewhat struggle with opening and vibing when I'm day gaming, but these past few days I've felt better about it. It is improving but not where I'd like to be just yet. I won't game if I know other people can hear/see me. Also, I don't think my text game is great and it's easily my least favorite aspect of game.