[polar]

I've been in LTR's with three black college girls - African (family was loaded, a bit spoiled), a Caribbean (poor and was in foster care, the most pleasant chick I've been around to date), and an American (from a traditional family background - daddy's girl, from New England, only dated white guys). I've also banged a couple of other black college girls. All but one were a size zero, no BBWs, welfare queens, ratchets or uneducated girls with the heavy Ebonics.

+1 what Sketness said on their types - American educated black girls are closest to white valley girls, Africans are more traditional, Caribbean are in between. Good tips there.

I'm white and the black girls love me, I get a lot of IOI's especially if they see me checking them out. I love the black girls because they're usually fitter and less bitchy than the white girls I can pull...given a black and white girl of comparable hotness, the white one will generally be much more entitled and the black one more feminine.

Most black girls don't get hit on by white guys. With these educated girls, you can play up your education a bit, provider potential doesn't seem to hurt.

Agreed with WIA, Tony and Sandos. Just like Asian girls, avoid giving off a vibe of jungle fever.

This may be a bit detailed for some, but showing some appreciation for the culture / their style / grooming can get you some good "appreciation points" - subtle ways of showing them your love of chocolate, and defusing the jungle fever suspicions. Examples:

1) hair - in a fro or short and curly? If it's short ask how long she's had natural hair. If it's long compliment her fro, joke about it being a bug lair or that she's got a million curls in there.

They all have had bad experiences with people (mostly white girls) touching their hair without permission and they get pissed at being treated like a petting zoo. Seriously - they're as protective of their hair as if you were groping their tits or ass, so don't try it before you've at least had a good make out. Pro tip: crack a joke about it - "I bet people can't keep their hands out of your hair, huh" and she'll talk about it for the next ten minutes.

2) long (past shoulders) straight or braided hair - that's a weave, fake hair. Short straight hair - they straighten that shit. Either way, they spend a ton of time and money in hair salons, usually have one place they go to all the time because they do it "right", are scared of the rain (can't get it wet), and have to wrap it in a silk scarf at night. Try bringing up her hair into the conversation and joke about one of those.

3) they're constantly using lotion as their skin turns gray if it's dry - "ashy". Comment on how their lotion smells nice / joke that they missed a spot / whatever. They also seem a lot more concerned about being clean and smelling nice all the time. Their dresser usually looks like a freakin' pharmacy with all of their hair and skincare products.

4) joke about "black don't crack" - basically how they won't look old for forever, kinda like Asians. Joke about your awesome genetics.

5) if you're out with a black girl on your arm, play up the "us vs. them" bubble - point out that people are staring. Frame it as "everyone's jealous of our awesomeness" or else joke about how you must look extra hot today in your new jacket, etc. Might be better saved for post-makeout or post-bang.

Other than that - game as normal. As a white guy I find I get a lot more room for error with black girls than white ones, and agreed with Sketness that if they like you, they'll make it easy. Honestly, more dominance / strong body language / man to women conversation and less "game" and dancing monkey routines. If they don't want you but you showed balls in your approach, you'll still get credit for crossing the race divide.

[Distant Light]

(09-19-2014 09:13 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I am in NYC so there are lizards from all around the globe. I have messed with black girls that are Ghanaian, Tanzanian, British, Haitian, Puerto Rican (mixed), Dominican (dark but mixed), Jamaican... And yea just regular African American.

I don't do anything in particular different to find them, they're on normal dating sites, in normal bars, on the train, in the places I go to.

A lot of them work as cashiers or check out girls, store clerks, basic service industry jobs, I have noticed, ones who are recent arrivals to the country within the last couple years and are figuring it all out.

No real method to this, I just spit to cute black girls and they turn out to be from here or there. I am "white" mostly but to most black and hispanic people I don't look it cause I'm more "Mediterranean" looking. They always ask about where I'm from and tell me about their background without me ever bringing it up. I purposely avoid talking about this cause I know they'll just bring it up eventually.

I guess my only advice is get to where they are and spit. I really don't do anything unique to find or game them, I adjust my game to each girl how she reacts to things, how she seems to me, but nothing specific for finding African girls or whatever.

What city are you in? That could be the biggest issue.

You could just get on your dating sites and search for keywords "Jamaican" "Haitian" "Nigerian" etc.

I do not specifically take them to anything black related y'know. I'm not taking them to rap concerts, soca clubs, reggae shit, etc. I'm not coming home and putting on any music I wouldn't normally put on. I do like a lot of rap and r&b and shit but most of these girls aren't even listening to that music. One girl flipped looking through my itunes because I had shit like tribe, fugees, ghostface, outkast, raekwon (this bitch liked rakwon?!), etc. But most of them are just into pop music like anyone else.

Guess it goes to show that me and WIA have totally different experiences and are dealing with totally different groups of girls. As a white guy who "acts" very white, probably they have certain expectations that being with me will be a certain way.

^^^ This

An I'm a rather "weird" black dude (Just sunday my white dominican friend was jokingly saying "I'm not black" to my 2 black friends because there is nothing about me other than my skin color that would let you know I'm black)

I don't calibrate to any chicks, for some reason black chicks are highly intrigued by me. To the point that I think they feel "validated", twice in the past few months I've had a chick say to me "You wanna fuck me"

IMO...
1. Black chicks from Africa or Europe have a very "russian" vibe (Only can verify those from the "high end" scene)

2. Black chicks from the hood will easily calibrate to something that intrigues them (however, most people buy into their frame because they can sometimes come off as intimidating...this never occurred to me personally because I knew I was a walking WTF to black people...The best description a chick was able to give me was "urban monk" while my parents call me a hobo)

3. Black Bohemians are much more laid back

I have very limited experience with american black chicks just due to the fact that only a small percentage is in the high end scene. (Nothing but great experiences with them) It's only at the high end hip hop parties that you see black chicks from the hood which was never a problem for me.

Personally though I only really messed with the black chicks from europe or africa because I like that hot bitchy vibe. I'm highly attracted to the bohemian look BUT I'm not around chicks like that on a consistent basis.

When I'm in queens, randomly walking to the store and stuff I get opened by american black chicks. One of the last american black chicks I ever pulled...Took her back to the worst neighborhood in brooklyn. (that's where she lives)

Her ass was so insane (by far one of the biggest asses I ever seen, small waist, if she got pregnant she'd be fat just due to how much ass she had)

EVERYONE was looking like "how the fuck did that homeless man met her?" hahahaahhaha...

Even the bouncer grabbed me demanding I take pictures because her ass was ridiculous. (I could get my dick lost in her ass cheeks)

[TonySandos]

Ass ass ass ass ass (deeper) ass ass ass ass ass stop..................now make that mf'r hammertime

[TravelerKai]

(09-23-2014 10:29 PM)polar Wrote:  

I've been in LTR's with three black college girls - African (family was loaded, a bit spoiled), a Caribbean (poor and was in foster care, the most pleasant chick I've been around to date), and an American (from a traditional family background - daddy's girl, from New England, only dated white guys). I've also banged a couple of other black college girls. All but one were a size zero, no BBWs, welfare queens, ratchets or uneducated girls with the heavy Ebonics.

+1 what Sketness said on their types - American educated black girls are closest to white valley girls, Africans are more traditional, Caribbean are in between. Good tips there.

I'm white and the black girls love me, I get a lot of IOI's especially if they see me checking them out. I love the black girls because they're usually fitter and less bitchy than the white girls I can pull...given a black and white girl of comparable hotness, the white one will generally be much more entitled and the black one more feminine.

Most black girls don't get hit on by white guys. With these educated girls, you can play up your education a bit, provider potential doesn't seem to hurt.

Agreed with WIA, Tony and Sandos. Just like Asian girls, avoid giving off a vibe of jungle fever.

This may be a bit detailed for some, but showing some appreciation for the culture / their style / grooming can get you some good "appreciation points" - subtle ways of showing them your love of chocolate, and defusing the jungle fever suspicions. Examples:

1) hair - in a fro or short and curly? If it's short ask how long she's had natural hair. If it's long compliment her fro, joke about it being a bug lair or that she's got a million curls in there.

They all have had bad experiences with people (mostly white girls) touching their hair without permission and they get pissed at being treated like a petting zoo. Seriously - they're as protective of their hair as if you were groping their tits or ass, so don't try it before you've at least had a good make out. Pro tip: crack a joke about it - "I bet people can't keep their hands out of your hair, huh" and she'll talk about it for the next ten minutes.

2) long (past shoulders) straight or braided hair - that's a weave, fake hair. Short straight hair - they straighten that shit. Either way, they spend a ton of time and money in hair salons, usually have one place they go to all the time because they do it "right", are scared of the rain (can't get it wet), and have to wrap it in a silk scarf at night. Try bringing up her hair into the conversation and joke about one of those.

3) they're constantly using lotion as their skin turns gray if it's dry - "ashy". Comment on how their lotion smells nice / joke that they missed a spot / whatever. They also seem a lot more concerned about being clean and smelling nice all the time. Their dresser usually looks like a freakin' pharmacy with all of their hair and skincare products.

4) joke about "black don't crack" - basically how they won't look old for forever, kinda like Asians. Joke about your awesome genetics.

5) if you're out with a black girl on your arm, play up the "us vs. them" bubble - point out that people are staring. Frame it as "everyone's jealous of our awesomeness" or else joke about how you must look extra hot today in your new jacket, etc. Might be better saved for post-makeout or post-bang.

Other than that - game as normal. As a white guy I find I get a lot more room for error with black girls than white ones, and agreed with Sketness that if they like you, they'll make it easy. Honestly, more dominance / strong body language / man to women conversation and less "game" and dancing monkey routines. If they don't want you but you showed balls in your approach, you'll still get credit for crossing the race divide.

Those are great tips for white guys, but is the OP (Moma) white? I was under the impression that he was not... I dunno. He knows so much about Africans I assumed he wasn't white, and I could be very wrong for thinking that. If he is white, then ignore the rnb music recommendation I made. White guys don't need that stuff or any props for that matter, unless you are looking for lower class black girls. Because stuff like that is pretty much mandatory to maintain her attention longer than a few hours. Good Movies work on some of those as well. Gotta keep shit simple and distracting for those types, so you can work on touching them more to get them in the mood.

Regardless, white guys sure can get away with some stuff with black girls! They have to be the easiest ones to get once you get past that initial "defense shield of doubt". Black men gotta work damned hard to get past all that. Sometimes starting a argument/fight with an uppity and educated black woman is the best strategy to get those drawls in the long run. She will always remember you being bold with her and conflict breeds affection. Just need to learn how to eventually stop the conflict and turn it into a pussy getting profit.

One way to work through a chick putting her hand up in your face is to attempt to break her down without saying it too loud and doing it politely. If she replies nasty and too loud, back off and try another one. If she replies back with a regular tone in defiance, go back and forth until an understanding can be achieved. If you catch her again, she'll give you that number, because she knows you are not some pussy and you might break that back.

[Moma]

Yea, i don't need tips for white guys seeking ratchett lizards unless I decide to open up a jungle fever bootcamp down the road.

I just wanna pull more freaks and I am wondering if there is anything I can tweak to up the bar. My city has a high ratchett ratio. I haven't done as much as day game/night game as I would like. I really would like to start the 3 spitz per day as per Mixx (spit at three lizards daily).

[Mentavious]

Moma

Are you hanging out at bars/clubs with a high black female count?

What about outdoor venues with a high count

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous. So I'm thinking the area you are in either doesn't have a lot of black females or it does but the ones that are your type are few and far between

I've always done well with college educated black females so it makes sense that I was in DC and ATL. Here in Michigan I have a hard time picking them up due to the minority of them being semi educated/educated.

[TonySandos]

I mean if you don't want ratchet types, then the boho chick are your best option. Any neosoul or hipster hip hop show is your best bet. I noticed that a lot of boho chicks like ratchet rap also. The English accent should the most impact on them and college girls

[heavy]

Not to derail this thread...it's interesting because I just noticed the other day on craigslist. I live in a largely white midwestern city. If you pull up craigslist w4m, it's overwhelmingly black chics lookin' fo love. Especially girls in their 20's.

Yeah every few months I'll check craigslist. My goal is to be on Missed Connections.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-24-2014 06:45 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

^^^ This

An I'm a rather "weird" black dude (Just sunday my white dominican friend was jokingly saying "I'm not black" to my 2 black friends because there is nothing about me other than my skin color that would let you know I'm black)

...

That is a cultural thing. Especially in Europe you encounter many second generation blacks who are completely "White" in behavior. I've even seen second-gen Polish black girls - behaving like a bubbly feminine Polish girl - no difference to the other girls there.

Apart from some increased interest in African culture, politics and history - I did not encounter much of a difference to a white European girl.

In my opinion part of that US infatuation with some mystical separate "black culture" and the Shanices', Precious' or Jamals was a trap. Blogger Obsidian from Just4Guys has written a lot about it.

Usually my "shtick" with black girls is also to talk a bit about some of the unknown topics about the African continent. Especially since most members of my personal religion are from Africa - blood voodoo cultists - heh - just kidding.

The funny thing is that most of my black friends in the EU are not interested in black chicks - always some blonde or pale-as-snow European chick. I've had even black friends from Africa getting married to US black girls - he is rich, but still very funny - brought her back to Nigeria.

Also - what I have experienced as well is that many black girls were quite ready to get pregnant with me - even in the course of a ONS - asking me to come inside. They did not even try to invent some story about being on the pill - no - just come inside - no questions asked. I guess having a kid by a smart not bad-looking white guy with some money is good enough for daddy-material. Ah well... I am certainly not falling for that trap.

[Moma]

(09-24-2014 10:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

Moma

Are you hanging out at bars/clubs with a high black female count?

What about outdoor venues with a high count

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous. So I'm thinking the area you are in either doesn't have a lot of black females or it does but the ones that are your type are few and far between

I've always done well with college educated black females so it makes sense that I was in DC and ATL. Here in Michigan I have a hard time picking them up due to the minority of them being semi educated/educated.

There are plenty where I'm at. I am really trying to be a ho/freak magnet. Maybe I need to rewire my thinking and realise that 90+% of the lizards are hos. I guess they try to play lil miss muffet around me but nearly all of them have suggested anal at some point which shows that they are not choir angels.

I just want to refine my allure so I can knock down multiple hos at maximal ROI. Or is it just a case of the regular grunt work like anything else?

[TravelerKai]

(09-25-2014 05:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 10:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

Moma

Are you hanging out at bars/clubs with a high black female count?

What about outdoor venues with a high count

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous. So I'm thinking the area you are in either doesn't have a lot of black females or it does but the ones that are your type are few and far between

I've always done well with college educated black females so it makes sense that I was in DC and ATL. Here in Michigan I have a hard time picking them up due to the minority of them being semi educated/educated.

There are plenty where I'm at. I am really trying to be a ho/freak magnet. Maybe I need to rewire my thinking and realise that 90+% of the lizards are hos. I guess they try to play lil miss muffet around me but nearly all of them have suggested anal at some point which shows that they are not choir angels.

I just want to refine my allure so I can knock down multiple hos at maximal ROI. Or is it just a case of the regular grunt work like anything else?

In my experience finding black freaks always involved some amount of social circle and semi-circle night game. College girls have freaks all over the place. See if you can get into some hangout spots that are full of HBCU (Historically Black College and University) girls. The amount of them are incredible. The younger they are the better because alot of the ghetto/freakier ones wash out by the 1st and 2nd year over partying. You can catch that tidal wave if you put yourself in a good position to catch that group.

There used to be old heads as old as 40 that used to shark the parking lots and ride by in their cars and would swoop those girls all the fucking time. Us younger bucks used to try and hate on them because they had cars and we didn't. Some hoes didn't wanna fuck in the dorms either but they would fuck those old heads that were not even in college on the side.

Find out which HBCU is close to you and try it out. You could hit a gold mine. The first semester always has more hoes than the second semester. Just always come back in August and swoop. Go to their football games and swoop in the stadium. It's super easy for low to medium quality black girls. Your competition is broke brothers with no car or a job. I will give you a fist bump if you can manage to smash the hot gals on the track teams. No one knows why, but they are always freaky for some reason.

Outside of that group. Semi-Circle game is showing up at certain clubs, poetry night spots, etc. and letting the hoes see your face. Make efforts to speak and talk to everyone. Notice I did not say collect numbers. Build a small circle inside these places and the hoes will reveal themselves in time.

Both strategies require a decent amount of groundwork, but once you get momentum it becomes a well that you can build a decent stable out of.

Stay away from black biker gangs and cliques. They handcuff the hoes alot and there is a lot of mess and drama that goes on in that world. They fight and simp alot. Do not let the sexy bitches that hang out in that shit lure you into it. They all act the same in every city. I bullshit you not.

Another top strategy if you can verbal hang with them, is to go to the Democrat party meetings and events. Some of the hottest educated black women are involved in that shit and lots of them are single, of course. They might take more work, but the quality is higher and they are closet freaks.

[TravelerKai]

I will give you another game tip as well.

When you talk to these young black college students, they will hear your accent and ask you where you are from. Tell them, and then you can tell them that you are interested in going to that school to get a masters or some shit like that. Play up that exotic factor if they are eating that up. If they act all silly because they don't know anything about where you are from, change the subject and stick to local shit they can get down with. Fix it up however you need. That should drop most shields pretty quickly for them. A chick that is 4 years in.... eh maybe, especially if she is desperate and a Zeta bat. Older black girls are fairly game resistant at many levels and are too shrewd about how they like to extract intel on men. You can usually easily tell which ones are young as opposed to older students. The younger ones are louder, have a different kind of pack, they obviously look younger and have immature body language. Observe the prey first and see. 4th year girls dick tease too much and got all kinds of shit on their minds, but with good game they can still be broken down.

[Merenguero]

(09-24-2014 10:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous.

P.G. County may be better nowadays as far as volume, talent, and lower bitch shields, although the nightlife there tends to center around the latin places that I have posted about in other threads and around University of Maryland. Remember, D.C. is less than 50% black nowadays.

[Moma]

(09-25-2014 06:06 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 10:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous.

P.G. County may be better nowadays as far as volume, talent, and lower bitch shields, although the nightlife there tends to center around the latin places that I have posted about in other threads and around University of Maryland. Remember, D.C. is less than 50% black nowadays.

Kosko went there a couple of years ago and said the black lizards were easier than Toronto.

[Mentavious]

(09-25-2014 06:06 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 10:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous.

P.G. County may be better nowadays as far as volume, talent, and lower bitch shields, although the nightlife there tends to center around the latin places that I have posted about in other threads and around University of Maryland. Remember, D.C. is less than 50% black nowadays.

Now that you mention it a lot of the giels I talked to lived in Maryland (close to the Dc border) so that makes sense

I just need to visit more clubs in Detroit. It seems like all the black girls here ask three questions

1. You have any kids
2. You live with yo mama
3. Do you have a car

If you got all three then you're golden. Shit...I see a movement with more blacks coming out to the burbs for partying.

[Mentavious]

Also Moma,

I've had success at malls where the clientele is mostly black. I don't know how old you are but I found mid/late 20s is a good age to find them with regards to 21 and under black girls.

Many go alone or with one other friend

[Dr. Howard]

I have no idea but I'm at a hotel in chatanoooga TN and there is hot young black housekeeping staff all over the place.

[RougeNoir]

How to attract black "hos"? Like American black?

Ok, Let's start with the club.

Toss the club valet attendant the keys to one of these:



Have on something like this:



Walk past these Plebs and go directly in:



Reserve a VIP section like this:



Then you might just have to beat them off you like this:

[RougeNoir]

(09-24-2014 10:33 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

I just got back from DC and I was on fire with black woman there. Between approaches and Tinder it was ridiculous.

My friend just got back from there a month ago and told me the exact same thing. That the black women in DC are wide open.

[WestIndianArchie]

(09-25-2014 05:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  

There are plenty where I'm at. I am really trying to be a ho/freak magnet.

Ho/Freaks?

Do you mind if they have kids?

If not,

#1 spot for Black Freaks down to do anything



Develop a circuit.
You basically have to ball out style wise, like you're going to the club.

WIA

[Moma]

(09-25-2014 10:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 05:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  

There are plenty where I'm at. I am really trying to be a ho/freak magnet.

Ho/Freaks?

Do you mind if they have kids?

If not,

#1 spot for Black Freaks down to do anything



Develop a circuit.
You basically have to ball out style wise, like you're going to the club.

WIA

No, I don't care if they have kids..you know what I have heard about church being a big gathering spot in America but it kind of impacts my morals...

[scotian]

(09-24-2014 05:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Yea, i don't need tips for white guys seeking ratchett lizards unless I decide to open up a jungle fever bootcamp down the road.

I just wanna pull more freaks and I am wondering if there is anything I can tweak to up the bar. My city has a high ratchett ratio. I haven't done as much as day game/night game as I would like. I really would like to start the 3 spitz per day as per Mixx (spit at three lizards daily).

Let me know when you open up the jungle fever bootcamp, I'd be down for that. That mall close to your place seemed like a decent spot to game trashy black girls, there were lots there when we went, also when I got lost for an hour trying to find your place and went down all of those dodgy side streets I saw tons of hot black skanks walking around. You're also well situated near a major uni so you should have access to more educated women. Of course, you could always try hitting up Wal mart.....when I want me something new, I go get me a basket and go walking around Wal Mart

[Giovonny]

I want to help Moma get more black "hos" but...

I am white/latin..

My advice may not apply. My experience in getting black girls may not be helpful to a black man..

(09-24-2014 05:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I haven't done as much as day game/night game as I would like.

This is #1.

If you want more girls, you gotta talk to more girls!

(09-24-2014 05:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I really would like to start the 3 spitz per day as per Mixx

I respect Mixx but he did not invent this concept.

I was suggesting multiple approaches a day before he ever joined this forum.

Mystery was suggesting this year ago.

Just sayin..

(09-25-2014 05:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I just want to refine my allure so I can knock down multiple hos at maximal ROI.

Your "allure" is about your look and vibe.

I would fine tune your fashion and presentation.

(09-24-2014 05:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Or is it just a case of the regular grunt work like anything else?

There is no substitute for hard work.

If you want more black girls, talk to more black girls.

Other than fame or wealth... What other strategy could possible compare?

******

Okay, enough of the generic advice about approaching more girls...

Let me try to help Moma.. I have never met Moma but just based off of his writings, let me say this..

As a white/latin guy, here is my advice to Moma:

- Don't try to be American -- Play up your British/European/Jamaican Swag & Vibe

- Be well dressed and Swagged the fuck out!

- Go after younger girls who will be more easily impressed by a big, strong, handsome, British Black man. Review what TravelerKai said above about older black men on black college campuses.

- Be different.

If you want freaks and hoes you gotta use bait that will catch the eye of freaks and hoes. Freaks and hoes are not turned on by regular, square type guys. Freaks and hoes are turned on by guys that display unique and massive levels of swag and confidence.

Study the presentation of the old fashioned, flamboyant pimps. They dress, walk, and talk the way they do in order to attract hoes. Hoes don't want "normal" guys, hoes want guys with a transcendental type of attitude and swag.

If you want freaks you gotta look like a freak-charmer. (tropical colors, exotic fabrics, elaborate style, exquisite taste, flamboyant swag and conversation, etc.)

Don't be like every other brotha, be the brotha from another planet!

That's my advice.

Have the chicken, weed, and drink on tap.

[Sonsowey]

How do I attract Black Republicans?

I'm looking for a girl who voted for Romney.

[Cattle Rustler]

S600 benz with some Lexani rims.