[Joga Bonito]

(10-26-2014 07:39 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 07:32 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 06:58 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 04:15 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 11:20 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Black kids growing up today have never really had it better. Cops might be the biggest threat to their safety, but if they were not so closed minded they could see that even whites and everyone else is catching hell from the police as well these days.

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I lived in the bad part of Long Beach before and was around "inner city youth" daily. The primary reason that I saw for people not being able to get out was because they were involved in the ghetto lifestyle. It had little to do with the man keeping them down.

I'm not singling out black people either. In the neighborhood I was in you saw blacks, latinos, and asians all acting like ghetto trash.

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Sure, I know all the usual reasons..ie. poverty and lack of opportunity. I came from a fairly poor background so I know it's also not the end all be all excuse. Playing the race card all the time is a poor excuse too especially when you see people of all races in a bad neighborhood falling into the same mindset.

A lot of it is just people getting mixed up in neighborhood drama and like I said..the ghetto lifestyle ie. gangbanging, dealing, hustling, etc..

If someone really applies themself it's not hard to save up and move out.

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[El Chinito loco]

(10-26-2014 08:08 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

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Social mobility isn't that great in the U.S. but an individual can at least work to remove themselves from certain toxic environments. It's not hard at all especially in an area like southern CA where there are plenty of blue collar neighborhoods without rampant crime. From that point you at least have a shot at middle class. The reality is most people living in those bad neighborhoods don't have the motivation to do so either. The culture of the underclass takes root. I've seen it all too often.

On top of that the media and liberals in office simultaneously glamorize the ghetto lifestyle and throw liberal pity parties at the underclass while manipulating the situation for political gain.

People are more likely to blame racism or the man keeping them down rather than work towards actual practical solutions. This constant state of victimhood and emphasis of race politics is the bread and butter of "multiculturalism."

[Veloce]

@El Chinito loco

Right on.

Look I'm a white dude that didn't grow up in the ghetto, so it's easy to write me off as talking out of my ass here...

But lets look at this from a Red Pill/Blue Pill perspective:

Is it hard to change? Yes

Is it hard to break bad habits? Yes

Do most people change? No

I can only take the word of people that grew up or were involved in ghetto or gang culture, that once you're in, it's hard to get out. Well, I've heard that from a lot of different walks of life. To me, it sounds like this is less social mobility and more human resistance to change.

In LA, anyone, and I mean ANYONE can work 2 dead end jobs and rent a studio in a semi-decent neighborhood. Is it a great existence? No, but it's not the ghetto. It's a step towards independence. The opportunity is there, available to absolutely everyone, but that is dependent on a willingness and a desire to change.

I know it's easy for me to say that with an outsider's perspective, but this is about taking personal responsibility. Everyone meets challenges in life; some are harder than others. Fucking own up to it and get it done.

[Nalka]

Its funny finding people pushing deterministic ideology on a seduction/self improvement site. If people can't make a choice to get out of the ghetto. How on earth are they going to be able to make a choice to get better at game?

Also as someone who grew up in a very poor neighborhood I can confirm what Le Chinito loco posted. Most people don't get out because ether they don't want to or they are not willing to do do basic things like not hanging out with a gang, doing grugs and get a job.
The few that make that decision and stick to it get out and make something of their life.

[Kabal]

(10-26-2014 08:08 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 07:39 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 07:32 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 06:58 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 04:15 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

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I lived in the bad part of Long Beach before and was around "inner city youth" daily. The primary reason that I saw for people not being able to get out was because they were involved in the ghetto lifestyle. It had little to do with the man keeping them down.

I'm not singling out black people either. In the neighborhood I was in you saw blacks, latinos, and asians all acting like ghetto trash.

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Sure, I know all the usual reasons..ie. poverty and lack of opportunity. I came from a fairly poor background so I know it's also not the end all be all excuse. Playing the race card all the time is a poor excuse too especially when you see people of all races in a bad neighborhood falling into the same mindset.

A lot of it is just people getting mixed up in neighborhood drama and like I said..the ghetto lifestyle ie. gangbanging, dealing, hustling, etc..

If someone really applies themself it's not hard to save up and move out.

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That's because statistically-speaking in the U.S., parental IQ and SES are highly correlated, and IQ is highly heritable. i.e. Higher "class" parents tend to be smarter and pass their genes onto their kids, and lower "class" parents tend to be dumber and similarly pass their genes onto their kids.

Low degree of empirical SES mobility != Low degree of possible SES mobility for motivated and smart people.

[TravelerKai]

(10-26-2014 04:15 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 11:20 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Black kids growing up today have never really had it better. Cops might be the biggest threat to their safety, but if they were not so closed minded they could see that even whites and everyone else is catching hell from the police as well these days.

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Of course they would disavow this statement. To do so is blue pill, ignorant, and all kinds of hamster. Exactly what they currently are right now.

Veloce is actually right. Blacks are their own worst enemy right now. Recall that violence in Chicago last July 4th weekend? After their own selves, the cops would be next I suppose, followed by their legit enemies (WN, KKK, bigots with power, etc.). The funny thing is that almost 100% of this shit can actually be avoided. What some need are the tools (knowledge/exposure) to get it done and unfortunately some need alot more than just that.

You need to understand as well as any younger black person reading this thread, back then, if we were threatened or told that niggers are not welcome or served or whatever the fuck in a particular place, we had to fucking leave. I could not even play baseball hardly because of racist whites jealous of me playing so well in the small town I grew up in. They eventually pushed me and my dad out of it. I guess what I am trying to say is that I know shit is not good. We all know that. It's still fucking better than it was before. Black people need to acknowledge differences, subtle or not, in how shit is now compared to before. Using the past to try and flog old whitey, is fruitless and serves no purpose today. Keyword is "today".

I could spend all day on the forum trying to guilt manipulate a bunch of white dudes here about how I grew up and what good would that do? No one here or elsewhere had anything to do with that shit. The idiot kids having race fights on Youtube comments, Reddit, and god knows whatever dark corners of the internet are not doing anything that actually makes shit better.

Look at how Midwest's racebaiting makes the blood of others here boil for no good reason. He did not leave several guys walking away from their PC's this evening feeling like perhaps they were wrong before or about how good it feels to have a strong Mexican American figure on the forum that provides so much insight with a lot of integrity.

The fact is that this is planet Earth. It belongs to Satan himself. Everyone is sinful and wicked. So why give anyone a reason to prove that you really are piece of shit out to pursue a useless agenda that serves no one in the end? Why prove to everyone you are what Thomas Hobbes once wrote in the Leviathan about the life of man? That older black guy on youtube, I forgot his name had an excellent video after that Ferguson race riot. He slammed everyone involved and sent a message to young black men. He said, they should have served that cop with a complaint, but make sure you make it home that night. They do not want you to make it home, because they want you to jump at them. They want you to resist. You resist, you lose.

What that older black guy did not address, that I would have addressed is that the idiotic Millennials have an arrogant sense of entitlement. They think they can buck at police and say anything they fucking want, thinking that the police wont either beat them or shoot them. They don't know their own history well enough to know that power is still number 1 and they do not have it with police or the US govt. for that matter. They do not live to win, they live to peacock, grandstand, and show off. Playing games like "knockout". The fact that whites and blacks have done that shit, shows the lack of intelligence this group of young people have these days. They are just repeating the same fucking curse that my generation did from the 80's and 90's. We had no memory of the brutal police from the 60's and 70's, so some in my age group acted out at cops and are either dead or in jail because of it. Most still ran away. Now? These kids try to lash out with their ignorant understanding of the law, due to their spoiled rotten entitlement. They still fear the effects of racism but propagate it to extend it into safety and benefits.

We used to have a good reason to play a race card and now that we do not, everyone wants to whip out the hamster as if nothing has changed at all. Blacks in the past criticized Jesse Jackson for doing the same damn thing in the early 90s, and they were ignored. Turns out they were right all along. They were just early to catch on. Now this shit is out of control. Bill Cosby was called an Uncle Tom. Clarence Thomas was openly mocked and reputation ruined when he was right all along. The black Muslim groups wanted reparations and handouts in order to satisfy their own hatred of whites, but did anyone tell them to shut up? Black people have to go back to the drawing board and think very, very hard. The world has never been fair. That does not mean you have to give up on improving yourself. We could at least play to win the game if nothing more. At least that would ensure you get home safely everyday.

[scorpion]

MidWest seems to have taken a hard leftist/SJW turn lately. I think he's attending college and is getting brainwashed by his liberal arts classes. Extremely bizarre how anyone could fall for that bullshit after being around here for awhile. I guess that illustrates the difference between actually swallowing the red pill and just learning a bit of game.

[Wutang]

If Joga was talking about women instead of minorities would he sound any different from a generic Jezebel or XOJane article? He's already talking about white privilege so he might as well add another adjective on and start talking about white cis-male privilege. What's next, blaming the patriarchy for all this nation's woes?

[Joga Bonito]

(10-26-2014 09:20 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

If Joga was talking about women instead of minorities would he sound any different from a generic Jezebel or XOJane article? He's already talking about white privilege so he might as well add another adjective on and start talking about white cis-male privilege. What's next, blaming the patriarchy for all this nation's woes?

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[Joga Bonito]

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[Nalka]

(10-26-2014 10:21 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

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People not taking the options available does not mean that they don't have them. That is a logical fallacy. The fact that most people are overweight does not mean that they don't have options. They have all sorts of options. The choice is theirs.

All you are doing is giving people a excuse to fail. A justification for not trying. A victim mentality. That is the worst thing you can do to a population. You are killing their dreams. Robbing their future by poisoning their mind.

Every time you tell a black kid that the system is against him, that white people are racists and will keep him down you are setting him up for failure.

Every politically correct BS victim mentality selling progressive has blood on their hands. The blood of young black guys that could have made something of their life but ended up dead or in jail.

Why do I care so much? Because The people I grew up with bought into that crap and it ruined their lives. Two are dead, one is in jail, another just got out, 3 are getting government benefits and slowly killing themselves, two work dead end minimum wage jobs. So much potential wasted. Wasted so that a few people could use their suffering as a club to whack other people with.

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There is a difference between teaching history in proper context and indoctrinating people into the victim mentality. People should not forget the past so that they don't make the same mistakes that were made. Any explanation of what blacks suffered in the past should include parallels to what other races and peoples suffered in the past and how they rebuilt and overcame the odds.

Never let the things that were done to you become your identity.

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Why is it that the life of a black person is only valued when taken by a white person? On the day of the Ferguson shooting, across america how many black people were murdered in cold blood by other black people? Do you know? Do you even care?
Why ferguson?--because it fits a narrative, a narrative that a group of people are pushing for their own ends. When racial tensions rise ask yourself; cui bono?

[MidWest]

(10-26-2014 07:51 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 07:18 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

^^^^Tim Wise laying the smackdown on white privielege, worthy of watching.

Tim Wise is an utterly detestable human being. He talks about "white privilege" while he makes a killing off of his speeches to SJW college kids. Fuck that. I'm left speechless by your admiration for this dude and the likes of Anderson Cooper. Come on bro, you're fucking with us here.

What's wrong with admiring a guy like Wise? He's a very respected scholar in the country. The reason he gets so much backlash is because he tells the cold hard truth about things that white Americans just don't like to talk about or hear and backs it all up with evidence.

Also what does "making a killing" have to do with his message? You're attacking the messenger and not the message. What does him being rich have to do with his arguments? If you want to go that route, then I could say the same thing about Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity who make a killing by selling white racial fears by shitting on Blacks and Hispanics.

I'm just trying to keep things in perspective here, I'm also left speechless at many posters here who actually agree with Limbaugh.

What I do like about Wise though is that he equally criticizes whites on both sides of the political spectrum like racist whites and guilty whites.

[MidWest]

(10-26-2014 09:09 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 04:15 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 11:20 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Black kids growing up today have never really had it better. Cops might be the biggest threat to their safety, but if they were not so closed minded they could see that even whites and everyone else is catching hell from the police as well these days.

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Look at how Midwest's racebaiting makes the blood of others here boil for no good reason. He did not leave several guys walking away from their PC's this evening feeling like perhaps they were wrong before or about how good it feels to have a strong Mexican American figure on the forum that provides so much insight with a lot of integrity.

I appreciate the kind words TravelerKai. I'm a big fan of your China travels and have great respect for you and your contributions to this forum, but I respectfully disagree with you here.

I'm just not in the business of going along to get along simply to get a pat on the head from the white posters here whenever they make bigoted comments towards brown or black people. I'm just not that type of person. The "let's not ruffle white feathers or else they won't like us anymore" or the "let's not say this because it would make whites uncomfortable" just doesn't work with me and I won't apologize for taking that stance.

The worst thing a person of color can do be it Asian, Latino, or Black is to try to get accepted by whites by going along with their negative rhetoric against our communities. I don't know maybe I just love my people too much, but that's just not the business for me.

I understand this is a majority white forum, but that doesn't mean I'm going to kiss ass all over the place.

Again, nothing but respect for the great Travelerkai and I will continue to be enlightened by your posts. On this one we disagree.

[TonySandos]

The majority of this forum is white and most of the topics are focused on criticizing white culture also.

Do these men suffer self hate or are they being rational and honest about the shortcomings and faults of their communities?

If white posters can't critique minority topics, we have to wait on a black voice to dispute black topics, a Latino voice to dispute Latino topics and so on, then RVF is pointless and lacking in rationality as any other forum out there. We have no reason to exist.

The bottom line is that you lack objectivity. It's not about your stances, but your lack of content within your posted views. You would catch less heat and not be considered to fan flames if your backed up your views more often, or simply left out the damning judgements on other posters.
We had members of all backgrounds participate in this thread and, while becoming noticibly heated, you're the only one to caste judgement by calling others bigoted. That's not the spirit of free or intellectual discourse.

[MidWest]

(10-27-2014 01:39 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

The majority of this forum is white and most of the topics are focused on criticizing white culture also.

Do these men suffer self hate or are they being rational and honest about the shortcomings and faults of their communities?

If white posters can't critique minority topics, we have to wait on a black voice to dispute black topics, a Latino voice to dispute Latino topics and so on, then RVF is pointless and lacking in rationality as any other forum out there. We have no reason to exist.

The bottom line is that you lack objectivity. It's not about your stances, but your lack of content within your posted views. You would catch less heat and not be considered to fan flames if your backed up your views more often, or simply left out the damning judgements on other posters.
We had members of all backgrounds participate in this thread and, while becoming noticibly heated, you're the only one to caste judgement by calling others bigoted. That's not the spirit of free or intellectual discourse.

When I mean bigoted I'm not talking about this thread in particular, I'm talking about all threads that pertain to race and of-course, lots of posts by posters in the past have been bigoted and ignorant, that's just a fact.

I'm actually very calm right now my dude. All I posted was a youtube video of Louis CK and Tim Wise explaining white privilege which last time I checked was what this thread was about right? And all hell broke lose.

You also say that my views lack content, but the only thing people here can come up with as it pertains to black crime and Hispanic crime is Chicago. That's the only city right wingers can hold their hats to as if its the only place where minorities reside. I feel like I backup my views pretty well, people just don't like them and its as simple as that.

[Royale]

Here we go again with the same, tired narrative. This "Dear White People/Check Your Privilege" nonsense is no more than SJW sectarian race-baiting. My whole family consists of people from all different ethnicities, with me in particular being a blend of West African (insert ebola joke here) and whatever the hell my mother is (combination of French, Italian, Cajun, Haitian, etc). On the surface, I look "black", so in America, that would be the box I have to check on my college applications. Because of my phenotype, I was subjected to racial slurs (from mostly Hispanics ironically, since I grew up in a border town in the American Southwest), prejudices, and other forms of discrimination. Yet, it didn't stop me from achieving the things I have in life. I didn't throw my hands up and just wallow away in some defeatist cesspool, cursing the heavens above for having melanin. What we think, we become.

Yes, there are levels of racism in this country that are both overt and subtle.

Yes, there are places in this country where people do not have the same economic/social opportunities as everyone else, and that those who are born in shite conditions get a negative start over someone who has born in Suburbia, USA.

Yes, the police and other forms of law enforcement have levels of profiling that may or may not include a particular minority group or groups.

Despite all of these things, do you give up? Do you just accept the idea that you are "inferior", and just conduct yourself EXACTLY how the racists/bigot demagogues say you are? That's weak, man.

(10-26-2014 09:09 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

The world has never been fair. That does not mean you have to give up on improving yourself. We could at least play to win the game if nothing more. At least that would ensure you get home safely everyday.

Hit the goddamn nail right on the head. Yes, one could argue that there is still injustice directed towards the Black community. However, what have they done to alleviate some of the burden themselves? Last I checked, murders in South Side Chicago, New Orleans, Philadelphia, etc, are still ridiculously high. Dropout rates are unimpressive. Drug problems, HIV/AIDS percentages (i.e. Google Baton Rouge HIV rates), and percentages of men going to college still need work. You mean to tell me these numbers are simply hyperbole and that the reason for all of these things is simply The System?



Making movies about other minorities "checking their privilege" does very little in improving the well-being of those who need it most. This unadulterated deluge of victim blaming is terrible beyond measure, corroding the insides of people telling them its okay to sit there and do nothing to improve yourself and/or the community around you. As critical as I'm sounding right now, I do not believe the Black community is without hope. The contributions to culture by the Black community are pretty staggering. Great inventors, idealists, and the like helped to build America into the hegemonic juggernaut it is today. If more people in the less fortunate areas opened a damn history book, being this hopeless damsel in distress wouldn't make sense. Once people realize that the current narrative they are propagating is a losing one, then maybe, JUST maybe, we can move onto greener pastures.

[Menace]

I always thought that privilege was something a stronger group gives to a weaker one.

[The Reactionary Tree]

Midwest has been thoroughly steeped in Cultural Marxism.

White Privilege is just a leftist shaming tactic to guilt trip white people into being subordinate to the demands of Cultural Marxists. Tim Wise is the biggest race hustler there is. There is nothing admirable about him. He is constantly preaching about the virtues of diversity and then lives in a 99% white neighborhood (way to practice what you preach Tim).

White Privilege is just another excuse that non-whites can use for their own shortcomings. Most Asian & Jewish Americans are very successful, do we shame them for their success? No, there is no Jewish Privilege or Asian Privilege. The left just wants to shame white people. How is it that these groups are able to overcome the global white male conspiracy to oppress all women, gays, and minorities if they do not have "privilege" like white people do?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(10-25-2014 04:24 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

I think this video better explains white privilege. Louis CK telling it how it is.

This guy is thoroughly off his rocker, either engaging in inane race-bating for cash & prizes or being genuinely out of touch with society. Either way, it's disgusting.

Am I confusing him for someone else or he used to be pretty popular around here? I could swear that some of his videos were posted as examples or "red pill". Or maybe it was Bill Burr...

[lskdfjldsf]

(10-27-2014 06:19 AM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

White Privilege is just another excuse that non-whites can use for their own shortcomings. Most Asian & Jewish Americans are very successful, do we shame them for their success? No, there is no Jewish Privilege or Asian Privilege. The left just wants to shame white people.

Despite being the most universally persecuted ethnic group in human history, Jews are the last to blame whites for their shortcomings and the last to promote the idea of "white privilege". Of course some topics are up for debate (e.g. role of the Holocaust & media discussed here frequently) but by and large, Asians and Jews should be role models for other minorities. They quickly integrate, they place a high cultural value on education, virtually non-existent crime rates, and they take full responsibility for themselves as a collective.

Americans don't have a problem with blacks because of "skin color" or "fear", they have a problem because of the victim mentality, complete and utter refusal to take responsibility for themselves as a group, lack of self-reflection, and persistent belief that the system must be molded to accommodate them for "injustices" several centuries ago.

I would never treat a black person or other minority differently because of their race, and as a veteran, I would fight to ensure they enjoy the same rights and privileges as everyone else. But truthfully, I fucking despise the culture and the way the community behaves as a whole. It's destroying our cities, futures for entire generations of kids, it's eroding my own Constitutional rights (remove black crime from statistics and the US is on par with Belgium) and it makes us the laughingstock of the world.

It's because of this group I have to walk on eggshells and bite my tongue in school. At the office. On the way home from work (in black neighborhoods my chances of being a crime victim are exponentially higher). THAT is why racism exists. Whatever historical grudges remain, the majority of negativity towards blacks is a result of their own actions and inactions over the past century, often due to their own self-promoted culture.

In the same way criticism of feminism isn't hatred of women as people, it's time the public speaks openly about the ideology and group mentality causing the racial problems we have today, without the fear of being called bigots.

[Veloce]

(10-27-2014 06:44 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 04:24 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

I think this video better explains white privilege. Louis CK telling it how it is.

This guy is thoroughly off his rocker, either engaging in inane race-bating for cash & prizes or being genuinely out of touch with society. Either way, it's disgusting.

Am I confusing him for someone else or he used to be pretty popular around here? I could swear that some of his videos were posted as examples or "red pill". Or maybe it was Bill Burr...

I don't think anyone has ever held up Louis CK as an example of red pill. I've held him up as someone I think is pretty fucking funny. But then I'm not watching him for a serious stance on social issues. I watch him for a few laughs.

[DjembaDjemba]

Nigerians in America seem to be doing very well, despite being black. They have good education are seem to have higher incomes than most other ethnic groups. Evidently racism doesn't hold them back.

That being said America still has quite a bit of anti black racism in its everyday fabric. Just reading what people think of blacks and mixed race people on anonymous forums gives a good sense people still cling to tribal traditions. The good news is, the real racial oppression apparatus has been completely defanged and declawed in the West. There seems to be very few real vestiges left of it.

Overcoming history is tough for black Americans, they did get fucked hard (300years slavery, 100 years of segregation). But things are getting better and the constant stream of black immigrants without the vile history and animosity are changing black - everyone else relations. In the great scheme of humanity, even 400 years is a blip.

I'll be happy to share my penis with the finest American dames in a sexually enriching cultural exchange program.

[RouteBackwards]

I do not disagree with MidWest, but then, I do not disagree with others either.

My issue with the privilege argument however, is that people look at this binary as a set in stone type prospect, and do not understand that no matter your lot in life, you can work to overcome these adversities.

Privilege arguments seem to result in people making "that's the way it is" sort of arguments, and that it is everyone elses fault, and that those who are below this privilege are not able to overcome it without those who are privileged doing something about it first.

Humans, and evolution as a whole, have favoured privilege in a lot of ways, because without it we would not have the large cultural structures we have. Now I am not saying it is right, but what I am saying is that this is what we have been dealt in North America because privilege and large cultural structures need to co-exist in order for mass cultural structures to thrive. A truly equal society would collapse on itself, because you need to have someone at the bottom to have others on the top. Some proprietors of this train of thought argue that equality will eventually become achieved amongst the races, and it will not longer be a black and white issue, but it will become a class issue; that is an argument for another day.

Now that I have my privilege as a necessity point out of the way, part of me wants to say that it is by no means a justification for continued oppression, but then I would argue that the red-pill ideology asserts that we: "see things as they are, not what you think they are" and with this knowledge of red-pill wisdom, we should move beyond what we have been dealt socially and better ourselves outside of that spectrum.

This is tricky to say, but maybe it's because Canada in some places feels more progressive, but I have never felt privilege as a result of my race, only from class. I grew up dirt poor, and have seen my fair share of hardships, but instead of blaming the oppressors, I've always strived to overcome my situation, and that is why the red pill ideology has been most appealing to me. While I realize that statistically I should be committing crimes right now, I also realize that I have agency to change my outcome by force of will, and for the most part, I have.

I have to work hard physical labour in order to attend University, unlike the pumpkin-spice sipping girls who have had their tuition and living expenses paid by rich parents, and only really have to worry about whether or not they contracted an STD from that dude they fucked at the bar last night. I used to resent my lot in life, but I also realize these are variables I will never have any control over, and resultantly I can only do for myself.

So, to sum up my thoughts, I agree with the privilege argument, but I also believe that some people feel threatened by it on here because it presupposes that you shouldn't have any agency to change your situation. I'm not sure that's what you're suggesting, but I can see why some people would feel that way.

With that being said, I feel like the privilege argument goes against a lot of red pill beliefs, because it assumes compliance instead of adapting to your situation to move beyond it.

Complaining is not red pill, doing something about your situation is.

[scorpion]

By the way, Time Wise is a particularly vile individual. He is a Jew who pretends to be a white European while spouting insanely inflammatory and hateful anti-white nonsense. He particularly rejoices in the demographic decline of white people. This would be like if a Chinese man lived in Japan, passed himself off as an ethnic Japanese and made a career out of guilt-tripping the Japanese for their collective historical racial sins while celebrating their demographic decline.








To get an idea of just how full of shit Tim Wise is, he claims to be an "anti-Zionist Jew" who is critical of Israel's ethno-nationalist policies, which are literally the most racist in the world, and include keeping Palestinians in concentration camps and deporting black people to Africa. So you would expect an "anti-racist" crusader like Tim Wise to be very critical of such Zionist policies, right? Wrong. From his very own website, Tim Wise has only THREE posts with the tag "Zionism" since 2001. In contrast, in the same time period he has hundreds of post with the tag "White privilege". See for yourself
http://www.timwise.org/tag/zionism/ and http://www.timwise.org/tag/white-privilege/

To call Tim Wise a race hustler is to let him off easy. He is an outright anti-white racist who hates white European people and celebrates white genocide (demographic replacement of one ethnic group by another of the type currently underway in the United States falls under the United Nations definition of genocide according to article II, sections C and D).

It's absolutely pathetic to see MidWest celebrating a guy like this, less for the content of what he's saying ("Oh no, I'm offended, someone save me from these opinions I don't like!"), but just for the sheer ignorance it reveals. It couldn't be more obvious that MidWest is simply regurgitating leftist/SJW bullshit he's been spoonfed in his college classes. There are a million places to do that on the internet. This should not be one of them. If you are even going to bother making a leftist argument here, at least make it good and make it original. Don't argue from authority by posting videos of SJWs and race hustlers as if that irrefutably proves some point. This isn't Tumblr. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.