[Giovonny]

I'm still working on this!

I've gotten much better but I can still improve even more.

I can still be better about speaking from my diaphragm and NOT from my throat!

I can still have a deeper voice!

I can still project more from my belly!

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A lot of my initial voice issues stemmed from the fact that I had approach anxiety and was nervous around women.. This caused my breathing to be slightly restricted which in turn caused my vocal projection to suffer.. My voice was too high pitched and not powerful enough..

It's almost like you could hear the embarrassment and anxiety in my voice.

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I also feel that there was a deeper psycho-emotional component to it..

As a child, I was the victim of severe child abuse, I've since learned that victims of abuse can sometimes internalize the trauma and "carry" tension in the body which can be detected in the voice.

I suspect that this is part of the reason why Mike Cernovich's voice is the way it is.. He probably got his ass kicked as a child and it takes work to remove the trauma and pain from our voice..

The more comfortable and at peace I am with myself, the deeper and more masculine my voice gets.

[Noir]

I would like to bump this thread, not solely for vocal projection but the content of what we say and how to get others' to listen.

Let's get a discussion going. Source of this is at the bottom of the vocal projection list, probably one of the most useful TED talks I have seen.

Vocal tonality - the fundamentals

* Register - speak from your belly/diaphragm -> depth = power/authority
* Timbre - the way your voice feels (rich/smooth/warm)
* Prosody - the sing-song to impart meaning -> enunciating and emphasizing what you are saying (powerful!)
* Pace - slow down to emphasize
* Silence - nothing wrong with silence, can emphasize
* Pitch - can alter meaning via delivery
* Volume - control attention levels


6 warm up exercises @ 7:52, can't link directly via embedding:

Also from the talk above;


Things to avoid in any conversation:

* Gossip -> self-explanatory
* Judging - the seedy kind. Don't confuse this with the shit tests you should be imparting
* Negativity -> unattractive
* Complaining -> feminine, powerless
* Excuses -> feminine
* Embroidery & exaggeration/lying -> needy
* Dogmatism -> confusion of facts and opinions ->uneducated


HAIL acronym to remember how you should come across

Honesty – be clear and straight
Authenticity – be yourself
Integrity – be your word
Love – wish them well

[FireStarter]

(07-04-2017 03:58 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Things to avoid in any conversation:

* Embroidery & exaggeration/lying -> needy

I'm wondering if that is supposed to be embellishment. Otherwise that's oddly specific, but I will continue to avoid talking about embroidery regardless.

[Noir]

(07-04-2017 05:00 AM)FireStarter Wrote:  

(07-04-2017 03:58 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Things to avoid in any conversation:

* Embroidery & exaggeration/lying -> needy

I'm wondering if that is supposed to be embellishment. Otherwise that's oddly specific, but I will continue to avoid talking about embroidery regardless.

As per google:

embroidery

ɪmˈbrɔɪd(ə)ri,ɛmˈbrɔɪd(ə)ri/
noun

1. the art or pastime of embroidering cloth.
"my mother decided I should learn embroidery"

2. embellishment or exaggeration in the description of an event.
"fanciful embroidery of the facts"

[Giovonny]

(07-04-2017 03:58 AM)Noir Wrote:  

* Register - speak from your belly/diaphragm -> depth = power/authority
* Timbre - the way your voice feels (rich/smooth/warm)

Noir,

Thanks for posting this!

This helps me understand it better.

"Register" and "Timbre" have been areas of improvement for me.

My voice issue was largely emotional and psychological. My voice was shy and measured because my childhood was dramatic.

We can carry the pain of the past in our voice...

I've learned to free myself of those mental chains and speak without self imposed limits.

[churros]