[GiovanniRio]

(03-15-2011 11:29 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 01:11 AM)DanDeLaCruz Wrote:  

I do think that other places in Brazil are better, not just for looks but for the friendliness of women... Rio is not what it use to be a couple decades ago... The constant bombardment of foreigners has lead to seasonal (maybe even permanent) sausage parties and an immunity of the local women to your foreign appeal.

What places in Brazil are better than Rio IYO? Floripa?

Floripa but even Sao Paulo. Many women in Rio are tired of tourists. If you like darker skinned, Bahia & the North of Brazil.

[Lief]

(03-14-2011 04:59 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(03-14-2011 03:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

She kept smiling at me but her face was atrocious. I know I could've had her if I wanted her and usually I'm pretty tolerant of a so-so face if the body is amazing, but her face was THAT bad!

See what I mean? I would not steer you guys wrong man. Most girls in Southern Brazil (except maybe Santa Catarina) are straight up butter-faces!

I don't know what it was, but I also had lots of similar experiences. I remember one time I saw this girl in Sao Paolo walking down the street, and I had to race about 6 blocks to catch her...she had the most boom-bangin ass I'd ever seen. Damn, she looked like fitness guru Denise Austin from behind. So, here I go on this incredibly wild goose chase, jumping over hurdles, dog-shit and rush hour traffic thinking to myself how incredible this girl will be in doggie style position, and thinking of a thousand ways to bang her once I catch up to her.

I see her in the distance, my heart is racing about 150BPM at almost full steam making sure nothing stands in my way of perhaps the finest piece of ass I'll sarge in Brazil......I get closer, and closer, and my heart races even more as I MUST meet this woman....my hand is reaching out to tap her shoulder, I have butterflies in my stomach but move on like a warrior, and finally it happens. I tap her shoulder "Disculpa senhora, eu gostaria di.......", and she turns around.......I fucking froze and almost when into cardiac arrest. "ooooohhhhhhh" is all I can say, and then I started running away from her faster than I was running towards her.....damn, her face was just tore-up from the floor up!

I packed my bags and left Brazil the next day....don't know If I'll ever return.

Mixx

Never before seen video footage of the ass that Mixx chased through the crowd and dog shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohB63KMexmc

But her face

   

[DanDeLaCruz]

(03-15-2011 11:29 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

What places in Brazil are better than Rio IYO? Floripa?

First, let me follow up my comment on Rio. Even though there are a lot of foreigners, I still did well in Rio. However you will no longer have this huge advantage over the local Brazilians. So if you're in Rio just make sure you do a lot of approaches cause the numbers will matter, stay as long as possible (3weeks plus), and learn some conversational Portuguese before you get there. Don't forget to bring a cell phone, you'll want to capitalize on every opportunity, and not having a cell phone will be a big handicap. Throw in some online dating and good times can be had in Rio...

As far as other places... It depends on your personal preference in women, and cities but you have three overall sections to Brazil...

The very south south east including the areas around curitiba, and Santa Catarina where the women tend to have more European blond looks... This is where most of Brazils models come from. If you're into light skinned women with a european mix, then you'll love this part of the country.

Or, the very north and north east, from fortaleza all the way to Sao Luis Maranhao... Darker skinned women. In Maranhao all they listen too is old school Reggae, it's a more laid back poorer part of Brazil..

You could also head into the Interior... There's Brazilia, Goiania, Mato Groso and Mato Groso Do Sur... Brazil is HUUUUUGE and I love the fact that most people just go to Rio and Sao Paolo... it leaves a lot of unexplored territory... I actually had a trip planned for Brazil, but I postponed it for a little bit... I was going to hit up the Interior cities, most of them. If I don't make it there by the end of this year.. Beginning of next year for sure...

[Luckystar]

(03-15-2011 10:49 PM)DanDeLaCruz Wrote:  

You could also head into the Interior... There's Brazilia, Goiania, Mato Groso and Mato Groso Do Sur... Brazil is HUUUUUGE and I love the fact that most people just go to Rio and Sao Paolo... it leaves a lot of unexplored territory... I actually had a trip planned for Brazil, but I postponed it for a little bit... I was going to hit up the Interior cities, most of them. If I don't make it there by the end of this year.. Beginning of next year for sure...

Reminds me of a brazilian friend telling me about the amazonian girls in Manaus - unlike anything he has seen. In a good way. He wasn't quite able to describe them, but the city and women sounded intriguing.

I would imagine its a fairly untouched city as far as tourists are concerned.

[K-man]

Have to point out here that you were able to stay with a friend - otherwise during Carnaval it's ridiculuos what hotels will charge you. You'll no doubt drop more than a few large on your trip (air, hotel, food, parties, etc.) and if your only payback is to fuck some dark-skinned girl that you could have had for $100 in your local whorehouse, forget it.
Good to hear you enjoyed the other experiences Brasil has to offer, too.

[MiXX]

(03-15-2011 09:31 PM)Lief Wrote:  

Never before seen video footage of the ass that Mixx chased through the crowd and dog shit.


But her face

Hey no offense, that girl on that video was full of cellulite on her ass.

The ass I'm talking about, the kind that MIxx chases a woman 6 blocks for compares to Denise Austin's ass in her prime back in 1990. Pure and toned, and well defined fit ass!! Not a bunch of rice and beans that went to her ass.

Just need to be clear on the ass I chase, and would not.

However, the face you posted was a close resemblence {shivering}

Mixx

[Pilgrim37]

Interested to know what your friend was doing for a living while living in Rio!Was he on a job transfer or found a job there?

I haven't been to Rio..but as far as the shopping malls in Recife and Fortaleza are concerned...Brazil has a lot of talent....those teens do catch the eye!

Here's an ass worthy of attention...Cristina Hendricks....Mid west Irish mix i believe..damn pretty....Brazilieras don't have the monopoly on the fine tail!

[DanDeLaCruz]

(03-17-2011 11:53 AM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Brazilieras don't have the monopoly on the fine tail!

They might not have a monopoly, but they have 90% of the market share!

[Tiz724]

Brasilieros have little game: I don't recall seeing many of the local guys do much that signaled they really had anything but a lot of persistence.
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I am not sure I would agree with this. I spent alot of time in Brasil, and had many good Brasiliero amigos. They have some of the strongest game I have ever seen, zero fear and all machismo. They are smooth talkers and definitely ballers.

[MiXX]

(03-17-2011 09:12 PM)Tiz724 Wrote:  

Brasilieros have little game: I don't recall seeing many of the local guys do much that signaled they really had anything but a lot of persistence.
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I am not sure I would agree with this. I spent alot of time in Brasil, and had many good Brasiliero amigos. They have some of the strongest game I have ever seen, zero fear and all machismo. They are smooth talkers and definitely ballers.

Actually they do have fear....fear that a smooth talking player can take away their local women from under their nose, and always see other players (especially foreign) as a threat. That's why they will ALWAYS be relentless in their ways of cock-blocking you.

I've also had brasileiro so called "friends" for many years. I trust 'em as far as I can throw 'em.

Mixx

[Gringo]

Was also at Rio Carnaval this year, second time being in Rio but first time for Carnaval. It was great, I spent the whole week at street parades and blockos drinking and having fun.

Very easy to get kisses and numbers, had endless amounts of problems when trying to meet up with the girls later that night or the next day though. Either my shitty cheap phone I bought in Rio would die on me in the midst of arranging where to meet (charge battery for 12hrs and it'd last for just 5 before going dead) or it wouldn't send texts or let me call anyone when I needed it to. Sometimes the girls would be so drunk they couldn't even remember who I was or where we had met based on some of the replies I received back when it did work.

Found it pointless to arrange to meet later because it's near impossible, too much going on, everyone too drunk, streets too busy, can't find each other etc. So I opted to just be a bit more direct and ended up going off to a love motel on my last night with a local. Already had the Brazilian flag so wasn't a big deal.

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I don't speak Portuguese and I'm a gringo, so I had to find a girl who spoke English and was willing to board the Gringo Train

I don't speak Portuguese either (and just a small amount of Spanish) but the girl I went with didn't understand a word of English nor my Spanish. I sat down on a wall next to her (actually because I was so drunk and tired) in Lapa, tried to talk to her but she didn't understand, went for the kiss then 5 minutes later she said 'Motel' and off we went. Was too easy.

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Actually they do have fear....fear that a smooth talking player can take away their local women from under their nose, and always see other players (especially foreign) as a threat. That's why they will ALWAYS be relentless in their ways of cock-blocking you.

So true. The amount of times in Rio or SP I've been chatting to a girl (especially in a party environment) and had a Brazilian or group of Brazilian guys come over and try and intimidate or cock block me is unreal. Happened in the streets during the blocks etc at Carnaval loads. Worst ever was in a club in SP, went out to the smoking area with a friend (I don't smoke) as an excuse to chat to some girls, was talking to one cute girl when two guys heard the English and said "GRINGO". I was like "yeah I'm a gringo". They proceeded to spend the rest of the night following me and the girl around the club constantly giving me abuse and harrassing the girl and her friend,who wanted nothing to do with them, for kisses. It's a sad thing to see. The lengths some Brazilian guys will go to cock block and to get a kiss from a girl is beyond perseverance, it's almost pathetic.

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and if your only payback is to fuck some dark-skinned girl that you could have had for $100 in your local whorehouse, forget it.

Nothing wrong with dark skinned girls. Especially in South America. Plenty of white girls back hme.

As for Rio having beautiful women, I think it's exaggerated. Sao Paulo has much higher quality of women IMO both darker skinned and the whiter more European looking ones.

[Gringo]

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But I think he was taking my safety very personally and one of the things he refused to do was take me to Lapa. He said it wasn't safe for me

Nonsense. Typical middle class Brazilian way of thinking. I've noticed this with a lot of the middle class in Rio, they live in their little safe bubbles in nice areas of the Zona Sul and refuse to go anywhere else because it's 'dangerous'. The amount of times I had people tell me I was crazy for staying in Santa Teresa or that Lapa was to be avoided on my first trip to Rio was unreal.

Santa Teresa is a great neighbourhood, I like it more than any other and I never felt unsafe or heard of anything bad happening round there to gringos. Lapa CAN be a bit sketchy if you wander away alone up some dark neighbouring street (I know a few people who have been mugged this way) but why would you want to be doing that anyway? Stick to the main streets and it's pretty safe. Just watch out for the kids, they'll try and pick your pockets. Had to slap one of them in the side of the head as I watched him attempt to pick pocket a friend during Carnaval. There's too many people around for it to be genuinely dangerous. Just gotta watch your pockets and avoid quiet, dark streets. Common sense.

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Well, we were gonna go to Casa da Matriz so he wasn't completely against it but we kind of lost our energy by the end and with it our motivation to go there.

Casa de Matriz is in Botofogo not Lapa. Fairly cool club but wasn't too busy last time I went, was a Monday night in fairness so that's probably why.

[DanDeLaCruz]

(03-19-2011 12:20 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

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But I think he was taking my safety very personally and one of the things he refused to do was take me to Lapa. He said it wasn't safe for me

Nonsense. Typical middle class Brazilian way of thinking. I've noticed this with a lot of the middle class in Rio, they live in their little safe bubbles in nice areas of the Zona Sul and refuse to go anywhere else because it's 'dangerous'.

The local Brazilian men have a different perspective on things, than a foreigner who most likely is just passing by... Social classes are much more defined and entrenched, not just in Brazil but most of Latin America... So if you're hanging out with an upper middle class Brazilian, they'll only hang out with people/places in their social class... As a foreigner these social boundaries are no concern to you, but for them it could mean backlash from their family/social circle, and since they live there, it's a reputation they have to keep...

[GiovanniRio]

(03-19-2011 05:27 PM)DanDeLaCruz Wrote:  

(03-19-2011 12:20 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

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But I think he was taking my safety very personally and one of the things he refused to do was take me to Lapa. He said it wasn't safe for me

Nonsense. Typical middle class Brazilian way of thinking. I've noticed this with a lot of the middle class in Rio, they live in their little safe bubbles in nice areas of the Zona Sul and refuse to go anywhere else because it's 'dangerous'.

The local Brazilian men have a different perspective on things, than a foreigner who most likely is just passing by... Social classes are much more defined and entrenched, not just in Brazil but most of Latin America... So if you're hanging out with an upper middle class Brazilian, they'll only hang out with people/places in their social class... As a foreigner these social boundaries are no concern to you, but for them it could mean backlash from their family/social circle, and since they live there, it's a reputation they have to keep...

Right on! Somehow it of course does, as the beautiful women are found in the rich classes or higher middle class. Most of the women living in Ipanema/Leblon and partly Barra don't want to be seen with a 'gringo', only because if what others will say (and the negative idea created in the past). That makes it difficult for an average tourist to enjoy Brazil's best.

[Mr McGillycuddy]

(03-15-2011 10:49 PM)DanDeLaCruz Wrote:  

Don't forget to bring a cell phone, you'll want to capitalize on every opportunity, and not having a cell phone will be a big handicap.

I agree 150%. This was one of the most important parts for me.

I would also add that having a genuine interest in the culture and people is something I think helped separate me from the hordes of gringos who just go to Rio to exploit the women, P4P, and otherwise further entrench the negative stereotypes associated with foreigners (particularly Americans). I took some time to learn about the history, people, and culture of Brazil and in the process, became very fascinated by it. As a result, I was legitimately interested in learning more about it and I think the girls picked up on that and realized I wasn't just an asshole gringo ready to rape, pillage, and burn to my heart's desire. Add in a small bit of language study to show that I at least had some interest in their language and I won even more points....something I observed was that as the only Portuguese speaking country in Latin America, there is lot of pride in the language and a little bit of an inferiority complex with Spanish.

(03-16-2011 08:14 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Have to point out here that you were able to stay with a friend - otherwise during Carnaval it's ridiculuos what hotels will charge you. You'll no doubt drop more than a few large on your trip (air, hotel, food, parties, etc.) and if your only payback is to fuck some dark-skinned girl that you could have had for $100 in your local whorehouse, forget it.
Good to hear you enjoyed the other experiences Brasil has to offer, too.

Even if I hadn't fucked any girls down there, I still would have had an amazing experience, so I have to disagree with this.

(03-17-2011 11:53 AM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Interested to know what your friend was doing for a living while living in Rio!Was he on a job transfer or found a job there?

He's working for some US investors trying to secure a wide range of deals down there. He's a finance guy.

(03-17-2011 09:12 PM)Tiz724 Wrote:  

Brasilieros have little game: I don't recall seeing many of the local guys do much that signaled they really had anything but a lot of persistence.
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I am not sure I would agree with this. I spent alot of time in Brasil, and had many good Brasiliero amigos. They have some of the strongest game I have ever seen, zero fear and all machismo. They are smooth talkers and definitely ballers.

I agree with the balls and machismo but what I was saying was that I didn't see very many of them make an approach and have the girl become incredibly attracted or interested. But this might be because they just went for the makeout and called it a day and if that was their goal, then mission accomplished.

(03-19-2011 11:23 AM)Gringo Wrote:  

Very easy to get kisses and numbers, had endless amounts of problems when trying to meet up with the girls later that night or the next day though. Either my shitty cheap phone I bought in Rio would die on me in the midst of arranging where to meet (charge battery for 12hrs and it'd last for just 5 before going dead) or it wouldn't send texts or let me call anyone when I needed it to. Sometimes the girls would be so drunk they couldn't even remember who I was or where we had met based on some of the replies I received back when it did work.

Found it pointless to arrange to meet later because it's near impossible, too much going on, everyone too drunk, streets too busy, can't find each other etc. So I opted to just be a bit more direct and ended up going off to a love motel on my last night with a local. Already had the Brazilian flag so wasn't a big deal.

What provider were you using? I had Claro and had some problems, but nothing that was a hindrance. I was told TIM has the best service there. I'm also surprised at our different experiences with following up via phone. I had good success with it and found the girls very responsive so I just figured it was a cultural thing that once they gave a guy their number, they fully intended on seeing him again but maybe that's not a correct assumption on my part???

Your story about swooping the girl who spoke no English is awesome. That's something on my bucket list but I didn't even come close to being able to pull that off.

(03-19-2011 07:41 PM)GiovanniRio Wrote:  

Right on! Somehow it of course does, as the beautiful women are found in the rich classes or higher middle class. Most of the women living in Ipanema/Leblon and partly Barra don't want to be seen with a 'gringo', only because if what others will say (and the negative idea created in the past). That makes it difficult for an average tourist to enjoy Brazil's best.

Maybe this is why I thought most of the women I saw in Rio were incredibly hot. My buddy's apartment was in Barra and we hung out a lot in Ipanema/Leblon and Gavea, so it was mostly a wealthier set.

My girls were from Leblon (I imagine this girl was very wealthy, she had a large 2BD/2BR apartment with a nice sunroom right in Leblon all to herself), Barra, and a vacationer from Vitoria. What Gio says here makes me think that maybe my blond hair/blue eyes played a more important role than I first thought. But then again, I approached all of these girls without getting any signs beforehand and two of them didn't seem too interested right off the bat, so I have no idea.

[Gringo]

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Most of the women living in Ipanema/Leblon and partly Barra don't want to be seen with a 'gringo', only because if what others will say (and the negative idea created in the past). That makes it difficult for an average tourist to enjoy Brazil's best.

I know a lot of girls from nice neighbourhoods in Rio and many from good areas in SP and none of them have a problem in being seen with a gringo. I think as long as you're not coming off as some seedy sex tourist then most people don't mind.

I read that Brazil is now the sex tourism capital of the world, having taken over from Thailand but I saw just a handful of whores in Rio (in a bar down Copacobana) and nowhere else. Few street whores in Augusta area in SP but it's hardly a prime tourist destination. Can't see how it's possibly more of a sex tourist destination than Thailand which literally has whores absolutely everywhere. Are there other parts of Brazil where sex tourism is more prevalant?

[Luckystar]

(03-20-2011 04:26 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

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Most of the women living in Ipanema/Leblon and partly Barra don't want to be seen with a 'gringo', only because if what others will say (and the negative idea created in the past). That makes it difficult for an average tourist to enjoy Brazil's best.

I read that Brazil is now the sex tourism capital of the world, having taken over from Thailand

That must be an old book. The exchange rate and the economic boom has long separated Brazil from its glory days of cheap and beautiful whores.

[Gringo]

It was a recent news article not an old book but it seems unlikely to be true to me unless there's some part of Rio where all the whores are and I've just never came across them or there's other parts of Brazil with sex tourist resorts like Thailand has (Pattaya & Phuket etc).

[GiovanniRio]

(03-20-2011 04:26 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

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Most of the women living in Ipanema/Leblon and partly Barra don't want to be seen with a 'gringo', only because if what others will say (and the negative idea created in the past). That makes it difficult for an average tourist to enjoy Brazil's best.

I know a lot of girls from nice neighbourhoods in Rio and many from good areas in SP and none of them have a problem in being seen with a gringo. I think as long as you're not coming off as some seedy sex tourist then most people don't mind.

I read that Brazil is now the sex tourism capital of the world, having taken over from Thailand but I saw just a handful of whores in Rio (in a bar down Copacobana) and nowhere else. Few street whores in Augusta area in SP but it's hardly a prime tourist destination. Can't see how it's possibly more of a sex tourist destination than Thailand which literally has whores absolutely everywhere. Are there other parts of Brazil where sex tourism is more prevalant?

There's much more sex tourism in other areas in Rio (city centre). It's not so present in the streets as you see it in Thailand, most of the hookers are working in apartments, 'sauna's',... Some of these sauna's have up to 400 women running around... Also, in all clubs in Rio, you'll find hookers or semi working girls. Not all will charge, many of them enjoy the company, free drinks, dinner,... and love sex. People here on the forum who also live in Brazil will understand what I'm talking about. It took me lots of trips to Brazil and locals to understand how it works over here.

Many many girls going to gringo places, sharing apartments in Copacabana (most of them are not from Rio) and relatively fluent in English, are working. They are mainly looking for a passport, or some fun when they are 'free' (while you pay the drinks, food). If you have Brazilian friends which you know well they'll easily point them out for you. You see them everywhere. I also thought in the beginning that these girls where just travelling like it's very common in Europe or the US. Living here learned me that in about 75% of the cases there's a different story behind it.

The government is trying to close down all the hooker bars in Rio and many other cities (Fortaleza, Bahia). I can believe that if you take Brazil as a whole country it wins over Thailand with regards to the number of hookers and sex tourists. Charter planes from The Nordics, Italy and Holland fly daily to Fortaleza and Bahia.

With regards to the ZS girls: I'm talking about the model types not the ok or nice looking 6-7 girls but 8's or princesses 9-10. They go to PUC university, travel to Angra in the weekend and go out in clubs such as Boox, Baronetti or Bar do Copa in the night. You'll never see them in Lapa!

The same for SP, I'm talking women going out to Pink Elephant, Skye,... most of them rather look down to a gringo. Especially Americans as in case of Europeans many of them have a European background (Portuguese, Italian, German). Sao Paulo is easier by the way and women have way more style & education.

I'm of course generalizing. I do approach & flag them. And sure others do to. But I'm living here which gives me a huge advantage. I was just saying that for 95% of the tourists these girls are off limits.

[Technics]

Mixx, GiovanniRio, or anybody else,

Can someone with first-hand experience give me their take on Salvador, Bahia? I have heard radically conflicting reports on the quality of the women there. I understand they are the darker types, which is no problem with me, but what about the quality?

I've heard some guys say Salvador is great if you like the type while others say it is awful, EVEN IF you like the type. Thx