[Checkmat]

(07-17-2014 02:25 PM)ocean Wrote:  

Putin's plane overlapped MH17 flight route less than hour before

http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

Mistaken identity perhaps

[Mekorig]

(07-17-2014 01:19 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Perhaps your family is biased!?

As first, when the Maindan was in flames, they were very anti-maidan, they wre party of the region voters. Then Crimea happened, and they do not like that, then little green men in their city appearing like mushrooms. One of my father´s cousin grankids joined these terrorist, she does not like it. Then looting and kidnapings began in the zone, made by the terrorist, and beatings to anyone whi they suspects is a "right wing infiltrator", and then mroe looting and kidnappings. Not, they do not like these terrorist at all right now.

[Cattle Rustler]

Remember, RT is part of the Russian propaganda Machine.......it's part of their mission to make Russia appear as the victim.

[rottenapple]

Is it me or are we in especially perilous times these days? Syria and Iraq are in war, but already off the media's radar, people are getting slaughtered in Nigeria, Mali, CAR. Ebola is having its worst outbreak. Israel and Palestina are at it again fulltime and meanwhile we have Ukraine and Russia fighting eachother.

Not saying this is very rare, but we've had more quiet times.

[Bark]

Get your Ukraine news here------> http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/

[Mekorig]

(07-17-2014 02:33 PM)Bark Wrote:  

Get your Ukraine news here------> http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/

Good joke.

[KorbenDallas]

Vineyard of the Saker is an intelligent blog written by a former Soviet Defector who previously worked as a military analyst for the US government before being disillusioned by the USG's empire building, repression to dissidents at home, and ruthlessness to foreign governments who rejected Washington's meddling.

A recommendation to read the Vineyard of the Saker, is anything but a joke, it is an excellent recommendation for men and women in the US who have no access to opposing viewpoints and who would like an alternative view to the mainstream media's dominant narrative that the USA=Good, Russia=Bad. The real world is more complicated than that.

[Mekorig]

In other news, the terrorist block access to the zone to anyone else, and apparently shipped the black box to Moscow.

[Veloce]

(07-17-2014 12:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Get ready for war?

Malaysia vs Ukraine?

Who would win?

[Mekorig]

(07-17-2014 02:44 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Vineyard of the Saker is an intelligent blog written by a former Soviet Defector who previously worked as a military analyst for the US government before being disillusioned by the USG's empire building, repression to dissidents at home, and ruthlessness to foreign governments who rejected Washington's meddling.

A recommendation to read the Vineyard of the Saker, is anything but a joke, it is an excellent recommendation for men and women in the US who have no access to opposing viewpoints and who would like an alternative view to the mainstream media's dominant narrative that the USA=Good, Russia=Bad. The real world is more complicated than that.

Sure, all you say, but i readed the guy´s blog, and he is by far super biased. heck, he was gathering donations for the terrorist. He is more papist than the Pope so to say, i mistrust sources like that.

[ocean]

(07-17-2014 02:47 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  

In other news, the terrorist block access to the zone to anyone else, and apparently shipped the black box to Moscow.

Link?

[TheWastelander]

It's starting to sound like when KAL007 was shot down.

[Mekorig]

(07-17-2014 02:50 PM)ocean Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:47 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  

In other news, the terrorist block access to the zone to anyone else, and apparently shipped the black box to Moscow.

Link?

Read it in Telam, the argentine news agency. I will look for another source. So far i found this: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17...-17-update

[LaserBear]

I'd start making jokes but I don't wanna get shot down.

Malaysia Airlines is starting a new plan that offers frequent faller miles.

The only thing falling faster than their stock prices...

Never should have asked that genie for a girl to "go down" with him on this flight.

"Flight" was an ironic choice of in flight movie.

That's all I have for now.



Serious note, if Putin did fly through that airspace at the same time... I can definitely see the confusion after Checkmat's post.

[Benoit]

Mark Ames with some background:
http://pando.com/2014/07/17/five-things-...n-ukraine/

[TravelerKai]

(07-17-2014 02:08 PM)WilliamShatnersEgo Wrote:  

What's the difference between these pics and the Pennsylvania 9/11 pics? The 9/11 pics had no bodies and those pics were taken almost immediately.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203 NSFW!!!

[3extra]

According to Ukraine's Security Chief, two Russian Military Officers were involved.

Apparently this phone conversation was intercepted.

Anybody speak Russian?

Full story on the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ju...raine-live

[Vicious]

(07-17-2014 03:21 PM)3extra Wrote:  

According to Ukraine's Security Chief, two Russian Military Officers were involved.

Apparently this a phone conversation that was intercepted.

Anybody speak Russian?

Full story on the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ju...raine-live

That one has been flagged as potentially fake. No strong confirmation yet.

[Mekorig]

I take this kind of "interceptions" with a grain of salt. Agree, no strong confirmation yet.

[Big Nilla]

(07-17-2014 01:41 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 01:19 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Perhaps your family is biased!?

Really? This is your "comeback"?

Cattle Ruster, don't bring your chatroom antics into the forum. Your post adds no value and is just trying to bait me. I've stopped wasting my time humbling you in the chatroom 6 weeks ago. Let it go, kid.

And without doubt, his family IS biased as he admits in a post in here. Maybe they're justified in their anti-Russian, anti-separatist bias, but nonetheless they ARE biased (based on mekorig's words alone). For you to relate and understand, your background would bias you in regards to illegal immigration into the USA.

[Cattle Rustler]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ation.html

Quote:

Earlier on Wednesday the defense minister of the self-proclaimed Republic of Donetsk, Igor Strelkov, published a post on Facebook that he later deleted: “Just now An-26 airplane was shot down outside Terez—we have warned them about ‘our sky.’”

Sometimes I wish people would make this up....

[Virtus]

"We warned -- not to fly in "Our Skies"

[Bark]

(07-17-2014 02:49 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:44 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Vineyard of the Saker is an intelligent blog written by a former Soviet Defector who previously worked as a military analyst for the US government before being disillusioned by the USG's empire building, repression to dissidents at home, and ruthlessness to foreign governments who rejected Washington's meddling.

A recommendation to read the Vineyard of the Saker, is anything but a joke, it is an excellent recommendation for men and women in the US who have no access to opposing viewpoints and who would like an alternative view to the mainstream media's dominant narrative that the USA=Good, Russia=Bad. The real world is more complicated than that.

Sure, all you say, but i readed the guy´s blog, and he is by far super biased. heck, he was gathering donations for the terrorist. He is more papist than the Pope so to say, i mistrust sources like that.

Why is it that every website has guys like you who come out with multiple responses to everyone to tell everyone they are wrong. As KorbenDallas said its a site for an alternative take to the main stream media. You know RED PILL!!. Red Pill isn't just the manosphere. There is red pill investing, red pill politics, red pill history, etc.

The Saker is for Red Pillers only

[Vicious]

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s...7629018112

The separatists have started deleting their earlier tweets where they've bragged about the advanced SAM systems they possess.

[Virtus]

Neither Russian nor Ukraine have any military or political motive in this plane going down.
But some fuckheads with a BUK they got to play with from Papa Putin could target whatever is flying overhead just because.
Don't underestimate the stupidity of my lumpen countrymen from Donetsk Region. If there ever was a bunch worthy of Worldstarhiphop in the EE that would be them