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Best place to relocation?
#26

Best place to relocation?

Quote: (07-20-2014 06:28 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

The only way you will know is to visit or apply for jobs in a particular country and see what the reaction is.
Yes, i'ts the best way, but it's unfeasible.
I can't resign work, becuase I do need that experience, and while I working I can't do more than a very short trip to only one or two countries. Short trip don't really going to tell me anything for long range stay.

Also, I do need to determine the destination at least a year in advance in order to learn the local languge (I want to know the languge at good level on relocation time).

So, additional information about Germany or UK (despite hesitate on UK) or new destinations suggestions would be great.
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#27

Best place to relocation?

How you going to get a job in another country, if you aren't in that country!

Every country has it's flaws, depends on what you are willing to deal with.

I think you need to think what matters to you, other than nightlife.

Do you really want to learn German?

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#28

Best place to relocation?

Quote: (07-21-2014 05:25 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

How you going to get a job in another country, if you aren't in that country!

Every country has it's flaws, depends on what you are willing to deal with.

I think you need to think what matters to you, other than nightlife.

Do you really want to learn German?
I just wanna decide where i'll try to relocate, so I can prepare from now with language and all the other staff.

About what I want other than nightlife, as I told a place that is good for my career and allow high standard of living.

Why not? I prepared to learn any language of the locals. the thing is that I want to be quite sure where I want to relocate before learn the language (So I don't learn one language and choose another destination after).
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#29

Best place to relocation?

If you are in tech then go to London to earn money, then get on jet2/ryanair/easyjet to east europe every other weekend, it's like 80 quid return
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#30

Best place to relocation?

Quote: (07-30-2014 09:59 AM)2014 Wrote:  

If you are in tech then go to London to earn money, then get on jet2/ryanair/easyjet to east europe every other weekend, it's like 80 quid return

I've done something similar to this and look back on it as a bit of a waste of time - I should have just moved to the place I enjoyed being in.

I'm sure it works for some people, though.

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#31

Best place to relocation?

Quote: (07-30-2014 09:59 AM)2014 Wrote:  

If you are in tech then go to London to earn money, then get on jet2/ryanair/easyjet to east europe every other weekend, it's like 80 quid return

I was just about to type the same suggestion.
You are not going to find everything you want in 1 location so it does seem like the best option.

I am booking flights to Poland/CZ/Lithuania 3-4 months ahead... some for £45 return (fri-sun)
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#32

Best place to relocation?

Quote: (07-31-2014 05:49 PM)Ethan Amarante Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2014 09:59 AM)2014 Wrote:  

If you are in tech then go to London to earn money, then get on jet2/ryanair/easyjet to east europe every other weekend, it's like 80 quid return

I've done something similar to this and look back on it as a bit of a waste of time - I should have just moved to the place I enjoyed being in.

I'm sure it works for some people, though.
I agree.

Quote: (07-31-2014 06:34 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2014 09:59 AM)2014 Wrote:  

If you are in tech then go to London to earn money, then get on jet2/ryanair/easyjet to east europe every other weekend, it's like 80 quid return

I was just about to type the same suggestion.
You are not going to find everything you want in 1 location so it does seem like the best option.

I am booking flights to Poland/CZ/Lithuania 3-4 months ahead... some for £45 return (fri-sun)
I may earn more in one place and enjoy more in another, but, i'll lose most of that extra money on flights, it's not worth it. I want to choose the best avarage for both.
and if you took into account the time that wasted, it's not worth it.
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#33

Best place to relocation?

I'm an Israeli too, been to London for around 4 or 5 months (exactly 12 months ago), and previously lived in Berlin. To be honest, London is around 30% more expensive, and people seem to be kind of miserable there, it rains a lot. I lived pretty comfortable from
£600 For a Double Room room in Zone 3, 15 mins from the center by tube.
£600 for food (£20 a day, mainly cooking in home, healthy food - Salmon, wild rice, quinoa etc) You can save a few pounds if you go to the bigger Tescos or Sainsburys, but they're usually a ride away, and if you're tired it's not ideal.
Around £140/month for public transport (Tube, Overground, Night Buses)
Taking a cab is expensive, but sometimes if the venue is far and you get a chick home with you, i'd say £40 per 3 rides.

So we're at around £1400 for basics only.

Then you have nightlife, entrance cover to clubs, drinks and all the other pleasures. A night out would cost me around £30-40. Some clubs like Fabric charge you £20 on the entrance.
So if you go out 3 times a week, it's an extra of around £360 per month.

If you add clothes (Coats, Shoes, shirts and everything) it depends... But I managed to buy enough stuff for the winter for around £400

You can live pretty comfortably with £2,000, which are EUR2,561. In Berlin I could manage to live at the same lifestyle, and be happier with the nightlife/chicks for around EUR1,700. And I know people who live with less than that (Renting a room for eur300/month)

Living out of the center in London (Zone 3/4) close to a tube station. Just the chicks/night scene there is.... meh. Seriously. Berlin is better, in terms of girls and easiness of hooking up. It took me a few weeks to feel comfortable in Berlin though, as being a Jewish... Got some paranoia at first but it kinda disappeared after a while I saw people are mostly nice there.

Women In London from my experience:

I didn't approach at all on the first 2 months in London. Then met a guy from the forums and started sarging, we would hit on a lot of girls, take notes, improve our game and body language. and everytime I'd hit around 20 girls a night, i'd fuck one and get numbers from some others. The hot girls i got there were not British.. only kissed a few british girls but lost interest fast and left them to find another girls.
i managed to hook up with asians, Easter European and Kazach girl

If you live in Germany, you can cut your costs in about 30% and have more fun.

Vibe/getting into clubs:

The vibe in Berlin is more easygoing and less serious in my opinion. Though you can get stuck in the queue when trying to get into fancy clubs or something, or bad selector acting shitty to customers, but it's the same here in Tel Aviv, Israel. In London I got in to every party/venue I wanted except once when it was obviously gays only and we said we're straight. In Berlin I didn't "pass" the selection like maybe 3 times out of 20, but we were drunk, and came late all of these times, so you can go out earlier and get in quicker.

Fashion:

London people tend to wear suits and act important even if they hate it, it's kind of required but fashionable and elegant. in Berlin it's A LOT chilled and common to see people wearing sneakers, jeans, hats etc. having a beer on the streets etc. It's like punky/trashy/hipster scene in the main points there. There is a lot to see in Berlin and the clubs are definitely better. London's hipster and "cool vibe" area would be Shoreditch, Old Street, Brick Lane areas where you'd see more artistic people and less suits.

I'd say Germany has more pros than London for us chasing pussy.
Not sure about the salaries, but many Israelis move to Berlin that's a fact. I've seen some israelis working at sales in London as well though.
Holland might be better. I have been there for a week only so I can't really tell, but maybe you should check it out?

Conclusion:

If you ask me now where would I choose to live; Tel Aviv, London or Berlin? I'd choose Berlin because it's more fun, most germans girls are hotter and easier than most british girls, Life is more chilled. But if I have a choice to pick somewhere else, I wouldn't live in neither of them. Have been to Bermingham (UK) which is a very bad city in my opinion in all aspects, lol. Haven't been to other cities in Germany/UK yet but they might be better than the capital.

I'm moving to Budapest for a better lifestyle, cheaper rent and hotter women. A Large studio apartment in the Center of Budapest would be around 400eur/per month, would cost around 1900eur in London and around 850eur In Tel Aviv. That's a big difference right there
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