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07-07-2014, 01:32 AM
I'm not sure exactly what I'm asking in this thread, I hope it doesn't come off as whining.
I've never really had any direction in my life, when I found this forum I was pretty much a mess in all aspects of my life, I was a virgin starting freshman year at an average state university, with an undeclared major.
After reading the game forum religiously , reading Bang, and forcing myself to approach everyday on campus, I started having some success. Then after reading probably every single thread on Asia in the travel forum, I did 2 semesters at a University here in Bangkok and it's been by far the happiest year of my life.
I want to sincerely thank Roosh, as well as all the senior members, for sharing your wisdom, and making this forum the greatest resource for self-improvement around. My life would be a lot different if this forum didn't exist, and I think plenty of others can say the same.
Recently I found out that despite the associate dean signing off on the classes I took abroad, my school has changed policy and will no longer accept them. This means my last year of studying doesn't count, I've taken 3 years of classes(and debt) but only have credit for the first two.
This has led me to rethink things. I was an accounting major before but with the last year erased I can go any direction now. I could take 2 more years of classes for an accounting degree, or change to nearly anything else, other then engineering, and still finish in 2 years. I was doing accounting before only because it seems like the best option if I want be able to easily find a decent job.
I have no fucking idea what I want to do now, I've considered getting my degree in anything and then coming back to Asia to teach English. But I'd have student loans hanging over me. I've also considered joining the military just to pay off my student debt.
This may sound strange but this forum is the only place I have to get advice about this. I'm in the same boat as a lot of other Millennials in that I never had any real male role-models to give me direction, it's likely why this forum has been so invaluable for me.
What would you do if you were in my shoes right now?
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07-07-2014, 05:32 AM
The international program here is a joke. I'm looking into it but I don't expect to get credit for those classes.
Yea that's probably what I'll do, wanted to see if anybody had any better ideas.
I'll be about 45,000 in debt by the end of year 5.
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07-07-2014, 10:01 AM
Appeal the universities decision, get a professor you get along really well, explain your situation, try to see if he can help you with administration. Then go talk to a dean or an appeals committee. It's BS that they said no after they signed off on it, especially if they changed their standing after the fact.
Don't go to the military, they can only help you so much (50K limit) and you have to give your soul for 4 years, not to mention it'll be boring since the wars are over. In addition, the pay is not that great. If you really want to pay off your debt, head to the oilfields where it's easier to make money and use that money to pay off your loans.
In all, finish your degree. You're more than halfway there and with it you can head to SEA to teach English if you so desire. An acct degree in Asia might come in handy for business side gigs compared to a BA in underwater basket weaving.
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07-07-2014, 11:33 PM
Thanks to everyone that posted. It does seem like an obvious choice now, guess I was still dazed from finding out a year of work was erased when I made this thread.
I suppose one extra year of comfortable college life isn't too bad.
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07-08-2014, 07:59 PM
Definintely finish school dude.
A 4-year degree is neccessary and you're close enough.
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07-08-2014, 08:23 PM
Before you decide on accounting, ask yourself if you want to spend 8+ hours a day staring at spreadsheets. It can be a very depressing and soul-crushing job if you don't have the personality for it. I know a few accountants, and literally every single one of them hates their job and has a drinking or drug habit. Small sample size, but they tell me it's the same with most of their colleagues.
An accounting degree also is pretty worthless unless you also get a CPA (which is no joke). Otherwise you're just a glorified bookkeeper and would be making in the 30k range at best. If you do decide to go with accounting, I would recommend doing the tax route rather than audit. The most depressed accountants I know are auditors and corporate types, the tax guys seem more relaxed.
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07-08-2014, 10:27 PM
I'm just not buying that the university lets you take on a bunch of debt and then reverses their promise and leaves you holding the bag. I knew people in college that got caught blatantly cheating on tests and were able to get out of it and finish their degrees. How - they got a lawyer and threatened the school. Unlike them, it sounds like you have a totally legitimate case. I think you can and should fight this.
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07-09-2014, 02:16 AM
Have you considered just getting your degree at whatever Thai uni you are at? Yes, it won't carry a lot of weight outside Thailand, but who cares unless you want to go into a very competitive field. A degree, even from a Thai uni, wouldn't that be enough for work permits in places like China and Japan?
Depending on how old you are, if you're early twenties, don't fret this small stuff, it is perfectly possible to have a nice career even if you messed around abroad. In some workplaces (good ones), it might even be seen as a benefit.
As for your entrepreneur option, you can't force that, but will have to get some experience and figure out along the way what kind of product you can offer. I will recommend two books to get you brain spinning: "The $100 Startup" and "Re-Work", you could "Remote", the last two are from the guys who made the Basecamp project management software. Those 3 books won't teach you specific skills, but imo, they are very good at getting your mind thinking in the right tracks.
If I was early twenties (I assume you are) and in your situation, I would study Chinese and add some valuable skill on top of that like programming, online marketing or similar, which doesn't require formal education. Give it two years, if you don't land a job, you can still go back and finish your degree, then be a skilled worker because of your language skills and other skills, in whatever field you choose.
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07-09-2014, 02:34 AM
Quote: (07-09-2014 02:24 AM)iop890 Wrote:
Quote: (07-09-2014 02:16 AM)berserk Wrote:
Have you considered just getting your degree at whatever Thai uni you are at? Yes, it won't carry a lot of weight outside Thailand, but who cares unless you want to go into a very competitive field. A degree, even from a Thai uni, wouldn't that be enough for work permits in places like China and Japan?
Depending on how old you are, if you're early twenties, don't fret this small stuff, it is perfectly possible to have a nice career even if you messed around abroad. In some workplaces (good ones), it might even be seen as a benefit.
As for your entrepreneur option, you can't force that, but will have to get some experience and figure out along the way what kind of product you can offer. I will recommend two books to get you brain spinning: "The $100 Startup" and "Re-Work", you could "Remote", the last two are from the guys who made the Basecamp project management software. Those 3 books won't teach you specific skills, but imo, they are very good at getting your mind thinking in the right tracks.
If I was early twenties (I assume you are) and in your situation, I would study Chinese and add some valuable skill on top of that like programming, online marketing or similar, which doesn't require formal education. Give it two years, if you don't land a job, you can still go back and finish your degree, then be a skilled worker because of your language skills and other skills, in whatever field you choose.
Thanks for the book recommendations. I'm 21 by the way.
I think I'd be better off with the American degree, and would have to change my major to Economics to graduate from my Thai uni, or find a thai university with an english accounting program.
Economics is a more prestigious degree anyway, can be used in finance and a bunch of other fields since you will learn a lot of math. I recommend the Thammasat Economics faculty if you want to go that way, though it isn't cheap. Again, if you're 21, there is nothing to worry about at all anyway as long as you don't do stupid stuff like getting deep in debt.
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07-09-2014, 02:35 AM
If you don't have a particular goal with your degree, I wouldn't make getting one a high priority.
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07-09-2014, 03:52 AM
Quote: (07-09-2014 03:01 AM)iop890 Wrote:
Quote: (07-09-2014 02:34 AM)berserk Wrote:
Economics is a more prestigious degree anyway, can be used in finance and a bunch of other fields since you will learn a lot of math. I recommend the Thammasat Economics faculty if you want to go that way, though it isn't cheap. Again, if you're 21, there is nothing to worry about at all anyway as long as you don't do stupid stuff like getting deep in debt.
I've always heard that accounting > economics outside of top universities without business schools.
If I were to do that I'd probably stay at Kasetsart since I already have ties here, I've gone to meet Thammasat girls at the campus in Rangsit before and it's pretty far out there. Not sure how their economics programs stack up though. Chula would also be worth considering too I'd think.
I believe the english language Econ and Business is still at Phra-Chan right near Kao San, it used to be, but not sure anymore. Chula is obviously also top choice, but really expensive since they charge double for foreigners, comes out at something like 300.000 for a year. Economics is more wider applicable than accounting, you can take stuff like Game Theory which is great and some finance, coupled with international economics or trade theory. Pretty good base for working in big international corps.
