[Helmutnl]

Guys..
Which Germanic language would you prioritize as the most language of love, (meaning it being the most worthwhile to learn if one wants to date or fall in love with a nice, feminine and beautiful Nordic looking girl)?
Would it be Swedish, Danish, German, Norwegian or Dutch?

[berserk]

(06-29-2014 08:45 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

Guys..
Which Germanic language would you prioritize as the most language of love, (meaning it being the most worthwhile to learn if one wants to date or fall in love with a nice, feminine and beautiful Nordic looking girl)?
Would it be Swedish, Danish, German, Norwegian or Dutch?

English. Seriously.

[Helmutnl]

(06-29-2014 11:51 PM)berserk Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 08:45 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

Guys..
Which Germanic language would you prioritize as the most language of love, (meaning it being the most worthwhile to learn if one wants to date or fall in love with a nice, feminine and beautiful Nordic looking girl)?
Would it be Swedish, Danish, German, Norwegian or Dutch?

English. Seriously.

But I wouldn't consider English girls (in general) on par with the other Germanic ones!, in terms of looks or attitude..

[berserk]

(06-30-2014 12:52 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 11:51 PM)berserk Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 08:45 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

Guys..
Which Germanic language would you prioritize as the most language of love, (meaning it being the most worthwhile to learn if one wants to date or fall in love with a nice, feminine and beautiful Nordic looking girl)?
Would it be Swedish, Danish, German, Norwegian or Dutch?

English. Seriously.

But I wouldn't consider English girls (in general) on par with the other Germanic ones!, in terms of looks or attitude..

There's no reason at all to learn those languages since everyone speaks English and will much rather practice their English than indulge someone who doesn't speak danish/norwegian/swedish fluently practice that.

[Chengiz88]

lots of answers here focusing on religion. What about South Asian dudes?? How well do they do in EE? I'm from England and have travelled extensively in the North America and Western Europe, but never really gamed in EE, and wonder if my kind of ppl (south asian) would do well

[Dantes]

(09-21-2014 10:20 AM)Chengiz88 Wrote:  

lots of answers here focusing on religion. What about South Asian dudes?? How well do they do in EE? I'm from England and have travelled extensively in the North America and Western Europe, but never really gamed in EE, and wonder if my kind of ppl (south asian) would do well

I am not Asian, but from observation Asians can do well in Poland. I also have an Asian friend who has done well In Brazil.

[POASTER]

I know some Iranian guys that do well in Northern Europe and even married local hot Swedish, German etc women.

The stuff Greek Kamaki wrote seems to apply to Gulf Arab immigrants, not "Middle Easterners" as a whole (although the term "Middle East" is defined differently in different countries).

There are big differences between Arabs, Turks, Iranians, Afghans, etc. And even between different nationalities of Arabs there are big differences in looks and attitude.

[Greek kamaki]

This is true.But there is sth in these Syrian,Lebanon,Egypt,Palestinian guys that does not pass to Europe.They have sth weird.Maybe it is that they do not drink.Anyway the way they carry themselves out makes Europeans not to trust them.

[Chengiz88]

@Greek Kamaki that's because most arab guys are animals in their behaviour towards women. I was in North Africa for 2 months earlier this year (work related) and the local girls were smoking hot, while the guys were fat,bald and uncouth. The women were so subservient and into these guys I couldn't believe my eyes. It comes to their upbringing where women are in effect treated like 2nd class citizens, and the clannish mentality these ppl live by. I was nice/kind to these women and they were so receptive to me, but they were so conditioned to being treated badly by the local men that I ended coming across beta. pfff

[Greek kamaki]

They do gross things with women.You see dozens of them in Athens pfiffing at every girl who comes by.It is obvious harassment.I was once with two girls passing through a street occupied by Middle Easterners and the amount of harassment was gross.The girls were running to avoid them.
I think a lot has to do with muslim countries tolerance towards this behaviour.If Greek guys did the same they would be beaten.A lot of stuff that gets you beaten in Balkans or punished by law in western Europe is totally acceptable in Turkey,Middle East.

[POASTER]

Yeah I'm sure there is that going on. But again these are referring to specific nationalities of Arabs. And the ones in Athens are the most poor, savage ones of the Arab world.

Iranians, Armenians, Turks, Afghans, Kurds are different, and different from each other. In fact these ethnicities often make the same complains about Arabs themselves.

[Greek kamaki]

Armenians are not Arabs.Iranians are also different(some of them abroad are rich) and I do not think they classify themselves as Arabs as well.
Kurds are worse than Turks in this regard who display also shitty behaviour(ask Germans).
Generally all these nationalities and Afghans have some success with slavic women.The main reason is that they provide them the opportunity to live at home without doing anything while Westerners and Mediteraneans demand from them to work.
Slavic women are compliant to stay at home cooking,cleaning and taking care of children only.It is a disgrace that the above nationalities take advantage of.(they call it cultural similarity etc).

[berserk]

(09-21-2014 03:48 PM)POASTER Wrote:  

I know some Iranian guys that do well in Northern Europe and even married local hot Swedish, German etc women.

The stuff Greek Kamaki wrote seems to apply to Gulf Arab immigrants, not "Middle Easterners" as a whole (although the term "Middle East" is defined differently in different countries).

There are big differences between Arabs, Turks, Iranians, Afghans, etc. And even between different nationalities of Arabs there are big differences in looks and attitude.

I've known several Iranians - they prefer to call themselves Persians - who kill it with both local women and immigrant women. It's not that much of a surprise though as most locally born persians are from parents who fled the Islamic revolution and often by highly educated parents who prefer western values. They often drink and smoke. I've also met quite a few Pakistanis who do very well, but they are also fluent speakers of the language, with out ghetto accent, and often well educated.

It's all about if you can adapt to western culture and I'm not talking about feminism and progressivism, but for example if you go to Scandinavia and you feel very strongly about not drinking alcohol then you might find it difficult. There are texts 1000 years old about how to drink, what to drink, how much to drink. This is just one example often contributed to modern progressivism (by some muslims) which is actually a very important part of northern European culture. Almost all socialization between men and women has historically been based around alchohol (and dancing).

[Chengiz88]

@berserk - You are right Iranians are persians and generally tend to be pro western in their outlook. It also helps that they are quite light skinned and tend to be good looking as a race.

[Eldon]

I have much to say on this, but I don't really feel like writing right now.
1. First of all, there are many Middle Eastern phenotypes from whitish, Mediterranean to dark brown with kinky hair. There are Turks that look "whiter" than Spaniards and Italians.
I mention this if you think you need to look like the population you're hitting on.
2. I hung with a bunch of Arab students (who look super middle-eastern) from one of those rich kingdom countries killing it in Poland, threesomes, street pickups, ons etc. And it's not cuz of their bankroll. They speak Polish, dress well, can dance and are very aggressive. They were out pulling Polish dudes, Brit and Southern Euro tourists in numbers and quality.

[Chengiz88]

All I want to know is do south asians (Pakistani's, Indians and afghans) get any tail in EE

[Greek kamaki]

I have seen EE girls with every kind of race one can imagine of.Guys who are considered totally unsexy in the West and never be allowed to talk to a hot woman let alone kiss her can get good results in EE.The stereotypes there are different.
Generally Westerners see themselves as winners and this also affects the attitude of girls.Coming from other culture means usually problems and poverty.In EE they do not have these stereotypes.Moreover they were subject to communist teachings of equality so they still believe many of them.
In the West the structure is hierarchical superior-inferior usually the inferior being the one who lost in wars or in economy competition.For example in Germany I have never seen any Pakistani with a German girl.(I have seen only Balkans,Arabs,Blacks with good looking German girls).
In Poland I saw pakistani guys with 4 polish blondes in a club table which is unthinkable of in Germany.Generally they look a bit exotic in Poland while in Germany they look clearly ugly as the lowest denominator.The environment and local male appearance have greatly to do with that.

[Greek kamaki]

(06-29-2014 08:45 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

Guys..
Which Germanic language would you prioritize as the most language of love, (meaning it being the most worthwhile to learn if one wants to date or fall in love with a nice, feminine and beautiful Nordic looking girl)?
Would it be Swedish, Danish, German, Norwegian or Dutch?

Danish,Swedish and Norwegian are very close.If you speak one you can understand all the rest especially the written speech.The roots of the words are exactly the same.They are also very simplified languages not many grammatical rules.Only Danish speak from larynx and sometimes it is difficult to understand them.I do not think it is of particular advantage in flirting to speak Scandinavian languages since all the girls are aware of their small populations and all speak very good English.
In Germany you have a small advantage if you speak German since it means higher probability of integration and that you are more presentable to her acquintances.Dutch girls also like when you speak their language which is very similar to German.
If you operate in Netherlands for sure you need Dutch.

[Fighting888]

I think Persians tend to actually do alright with women. In America, they don't do badly at all. I realize this discussion pertains to Europe, but I haven't really seen them struggle much in the USA.

South Asians, especially Pakistanis, seem extremely disadvantaged both in the USA and EU. Compared to other Mid Easterners, they're going to find it impossible to blend in or pass as Southern Euro/Meditteranean. The Pakistanis are actually more stereotypically Middle Eastern looking than many Middle Easterners, which works to their disadvantage. I think darker skinned Indians and Sri Lankans could leverage their appearance to appear exotic.

In Norway, Pakistanis have one of the lowest intermarriage rates with the ethnic Norweigians. Despite being exotic, they get relatively squeezed out in the sexual marketplace because of the super high SMV of Norweigian men and relatively low SMV of Pakistanis. They can't compete. The intermarriage rate for Norweigian Pakistanis is significantly lower than in the UK, in which Pakistanis struggle as well. However, other Mid Easterners, such as Persians, do sometimes do well in Norway. Interestingly, Indians tend to do a little better than Pakistanis in Norway because they earn better incomes and are more assimilated.

[L M McCoy]

I know what you guys mean now, it was pretty hectic. Saw 4 guys saying the dumbest trash because some pretty blonde walked by today. They are all international students


Talk about an eye opening experience. I'm beginning to understand what many have stated here.

I'm going to steal my dads kipa and start wearing it.

Feel pretty embarrassed for dismissing what many people wrote on this thread, so sorry for that!

[Helmutnl]

Hi.
So, Greek kamaki.
Which nationality of girls do you think are more likely to date a guy who is of middle eastern descent but purely westernized?Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands or Germany or also Belgium( Flanders)?
because as far as I know, girls from Denmark are very likely to reject dating a guy of middle eastern descent, no matter what style he has.

[Greek kamaki]

(09-27-2014 09:10 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

Hi.
So, Greek kamaki.
Which nationality of girls do you think are more likely to date a guy who is of middle eastern descent but purely westernized?Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands or Germany or also Belgium( Flanders)?
because as far as I know, girls from Denmark are very likely to reject dating a guy of middle eastern descent, no matter what style he has.

I think Netherlands is more likely.

[L M McCoy]

(09-27-2014 09:10 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

Hi.
So, Greek kamaki.
Which nationality of girls do you think are more likely to date a guy who is of middle eastern descent but purely westernized?Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands or Germany or also Belgium( Flanders)?
because as far as I know, girls from Denmark are very likely to reject dating a guy of middle eastern descent, no matter what style he has.

Are you having trouble with these lizards? I was going to PM you but you have that turned off

[Helmutnl]

Hi guys, thanks for the info.
L M McCoy, you can send a PM

[Greek kamaki]

The Arabs have also a distinct disadvantage compared to Blacks they cannot use the white girls guilt for the suffering of their tribe etc.The Arabs are held in doubt before proving they are not elephants as we say.
The Blacks are also different(more muscular etc) and some girls like that while Arabs are not that different usually concentrating all the negative qualities.In Germany it is very rare to see cute German chicks circulating with Arabs or Turks but then again German chicks are very social status oriented and Arabs and Turks are usually at the bottom because the local society does not give many chances if you deviate.