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Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe
#26

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

Arab lust for white women has nothing to do with colonization or Hollywood. White women and young boys were the most prized in the muslim slave trade, which scope and numbers far, far surpass all slave trading in the americas. Arabs and muslims have slaves and slave trading of infidels as integral part of their history and culture. Read the history books. The first thing muslims did wherever they conquered was to take thousands and thousands of slaves. Nordic women and boys (yes young boys) were particularly sought after with frequent muslim raiding parties into now Ukraine.
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Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

Not sure I get this thread. Just went through Eastern Europe and there are countries where being ethnic is a major advantage. The girls who have a fetish for tanned guys will like any brownish guy as long as he doesn't act strange so just don't go to EE dressed in Arab garb with 20 other Arab dudes on camels.

And anyway, overall I've realized these ethnic threads are overblown cause its impossible to predict how your race will impact gaming chicks in X country. It depends on your overall appearance and personality and which girls you target.
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#28

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

Quote: (06-23-2014 10:39 AM)berserk Wrote:  

Arab lust for white women has nothing to do with colonization or Hollywood. White women and young boys were the most prized in the muslim slave trade, which scope and numbers far, far surpass all slave trading in the americas. Arabs and muslims have slaves and slave trading of infidels as integral part of their history and culture. Read the history books. The first thing muslims did wherever they conquered was to take thousands and thousands of slaves. Nordic women and boys (yes young boys) were particularly sought after with frequent muslim raiding parties into now Ukraine.

What about white women lust for Arabs? Exoticism, dominant personalities?
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#29

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

Quote: (06-23-2014 11:34 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

What about white women lust for Arabs? Exoticism, dominant personalities?

I don't mean this to come out the wrong way, but the only women with lust for arabs in northern europe - to my knowledge - are young, lower class women, because the arabs in teenage years are more dominant, as in more violent and criminal.

Northern Euro women, when they want that dark, handsome, dominant man, an italian, a spaniard, a greek. It's a well established romantic notion of the Italian in particular and the italian is the most socially accepted as the cool cat, which means his barrier to entry is the least because northern euro guys won't cockblock as much because they might like italian/spanish football or the food or in general have a positive view of those two etnicities.

On the contrary, the turk or the egyptian will get with scandi women on holiday. They'll fake disgust to their friends, but if a white guy is lacking, she might certainly hook up. I've seen those turk guys, they're relentless, hitting on any girl who walks by. Female sex tourism for white women goes to Egypt, Turkey, Kenya etc.

In the home countries, very few white women are attracted to arab men. As said, it will impress lower class young teenage girls for sure (say 14-17). The social stigma is large though and there is zero positive reinforcement from guys like with the italian/spanish. There will be outright hostility and social shaming of girls who go with arabs.

That being said, I believe women are women. They have a natural desire for the exotic more than men, true for any race. It's society aka men, who set the barriers.
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#30

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

What I don't understand is that many people say that ME guys won't do well, they aren't looked upon favorably but I did very well there: Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, and Switzerland. This was like 3 years ago though.

So basically if you're not Muslim (I've never been muslim) and you don't look like a FOB, you can rack up bitches?


Isn't every country like that with FOBS regardless of what country the person comes from
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#31

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Quote: (06-23-2014 11:20 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  

Not sure I get this thread. Just went through Eastern Europe and there are countries where being ethnic is a major advantage. The girls who have a fetish for tanned guys will like any brownish guy as long as he doesn't act strange so just don't go to EE dressed in Arab garb with 20 other Arab dudes on camels.

And anyway, overall I've realized these ethnic threads are overblown cause its impossible to predict how your race will impact gaming chicks in X country. It depends on your overall appearance and personality and which girls you target.

There is distinct difference between western and Eastern Europe.EE is not overrun by Arabs,Turks etc so there are not these negative stereotypes.Also EE is weak meaning there is not this tough environment of the West.In the West people are tough,hardcore,competitive and judgemental.An Arab is seen as sb coming from backwards and poorer regions.
EE is not itself rich to start with.
Also western women are too used to any trick Arabs and other minorities can pull out of their sleeves because they have heard them countless times.They are not virgin anyway.An Arab,Turk finds wall he simply cannot penetrate.A Greek,Italian can penetrate but he needs to struggle give some battle because these are deep things to start with.
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#32

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

Quote: (06-23-2014 12:37 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

What I don't understand is that many people say that ME guys won't do well, they aren't looked upon favorably but I did very well there: Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, and Switzerland. This was like 3 years ago though.

So basically if you're not Muslim (I've never been muslim) and you don't look like a FOB, you can rack up bitches?


Isn't every country like that with FOBS regardless of what country?

Because you did not say you come from Iraq or Iordania you said you come from USA.USA is like a washing machine so to say.
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#33

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So I was able to pull because I'm from America and that I looked Westernized?
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#34

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Quote: (06-23-2014 12:49 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

So I was able to pull because I'm from America and that I looked Westernized?

Probably.I bet you drink and you do not hang on the streets with 20 other similarly dressed guys pfiffing at women.
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Quote: (06-23-2014 12:52 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Quote: (06-23-2014 12:49 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

So I was able to pull because I'm from America and that I looked Westernized?

Probably.I bet you drink and you do not hang on the streets with 20 other similarly dressed guys pfiffing at women.

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Nah, but now that you mention it girls were pretty surprised I had my ears pierced.
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#36

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Anybody can get laid anywhere if they really want to. You may not get the top quality girls
but you can definitely get laid.

Team Nachos
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#37

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Quote: (06-23-2014 10:35 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Quote: (06-23-2014 01:58 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

^I think if you have to resort to pretending youre another ethnicity to get girls, you already lost at game.

Ha, I knew a Newyorkqino in the US Army in Germany who used to pretend to be Jewish to guilt-trip German girls into fucking him. He even wore a Star of David on a chain.

This was back in the late 1970s.

Hence the naivety and stupidity of the western girls who fall for these tricks, brainwashed by PC shit.
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#38

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

We're talking about different types of guys here. Of course the local ghetto scruffy thirsty overly-crude ME guys are going to have problems pulling quality women.

But if you had the game and the consciousness of style to play Omar Sherif to those women, you'd do ok.

Just like any category of guy who might frequent this forum to improve their style and game.
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#39

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

Quote: (06-23-2014 01:22 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

We're talking about different types of guys here. Of course the local ghetto scruffy thirsty overly-crude ME guys are going to have problems pulling quality women.

But if you had the game and the consciousness of style to play Omar Sherif to those women, you'd do ok.

Just like any category of guy who might frequent this forum to improve their style and game.

see that's what I used to think but with so many guys saying "ME guys won't do well here" I had my doubts. So I got curios I mean Roosh tears it up although he has a way with words.

I thought it was common sense that the ghetto scruffy guys won't do well anywhere
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#40

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

The OP appears to be an American Lebanese Christian. There’s a big difference between them and Muslim Arabs.

The phrase “Middle Eastern” can mean many things. I’m in Los Angeles and the Middle Eastern people here tend to be Jewish Israelis, Iranian Jews, Iranian (of Muslim descent but mostly secular), Christian Armenians and a lot of other Christians like Lebanese and Egyptian Copts.

I think there’s a few things that need to be clarified here when comparing the US Arabs vs European Arabs.

USA Arabs
  • Most are Christian.
    Many are very educated, due to the H1-B visa only letting in skilled immigrants.
  • Many have a good business brain are pretty well off. In the middle eastern countries, historically, many of the very well off families are Christian.
  • Many are very assimilated into US culture. Some have been in the US for 3 or 4 generations. I’ve come across Arab-Americans where I had no idea that they were Arabs until they told me. The only thing Arab about them is the fact that they sometimes eat hummus for lunch!
  • Many Lebanese don’t even consider themselves Arab – I’ve heard some call themselves Phoenicians.
European Arabs
  • Most are Muslim
  • Many are poorly educated. A lot of them came into Europe for manual labour
  • Many are on welfare.
  • Mostly they do not assimilate – they stick around with other Arabs & they prefer to live in ghettos amongst many other Arabs.
  • They’ve only been in Europe for 1 or 2 generations and on the whole are not assimilated.
I’ve never thought of Middle Eastern guys having a disadvantage with women. If they’re well dressed, not religious and well spoken I would have assumed that they can kill it in the US or UK at least. I can’t speak for the rest of Europe.
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#41

Why won't Middle Easterner's do well in Europe

In the UK, Muslim men are perceived as perverse and creepy. The situation is so bad that a lot of Muslim men are grooming prepubescent girls from the council housing estates. Black men, on the other hand, are seen very favorably. A black guy can clean up with fine white girls in London.

UK Muslim men are mainly Pakistani/Indian, so I don't know if Arabs or Turks would do as badly.
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#42

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Quote: (06-23-2014 05:18 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

In the UK, Muslim men are perceived as perverse and creepy. The situation is so bad that a lot of Muslim men are grooming prepubescent girls from the council housing estates. Black men, on the other hand, are seen very favorably. A black guy can clean up with fine white girls in London.

UK Muslim men are mainly Pakistani/Indian, so I don't know if Arabs or Turks would do as badly.

I grew up around British Pakistani or Bangladeshi Muslim men - most of them are pretty normal and many of them do not have beards or wear Islamic clothing. They're indistinguishable from UK Indians.

Most UK Muslim men are Pakistani – I think less than 15% are Indian. Of those Pakistani guys, most of Mirpuri, which is the most backwards area of Pakistan. I’m from UK and every year I go back I see more and more white women wearing headscarves, because they’ve converted to Islam. Some Muslim men do have game!

BTW Many Indian Muslims intensely dislike Pakistanis.
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#43

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Quote: (06-23-2014 11:20 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  

Not sure I get this thread. Just went through Eastern Europe and there are countries where being ethnic is a major advantage.

Such as???
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#44

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Arabs lust for white women comes from knowing that white girls are sluts. This caused a series of gang-rapes in Sydney 10 years back and a lot of ethnic tension (i.e the Cronulla Riot) relating to the Lebanese Muslim population. They didn't want to "defile" Muslim girls and perhaps they just put out less too, so they went after white girls instead. You'd never think you'd hear of a crowd of violent drunk bogans calling for greater respect for women... That said most Middle Eastern Muslims in Australia aren't very religious, and many are Christian (Lebanese Maronite and Coptic Orthodox) and they all do fine here. They have a reputation for being players even. It's the observant Muslim ones who don't get pussy though, maybe by choice for most of them.
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#45

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I don't want you guys calling me a revolutionary but how about we keep religion out of this
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#46

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When i say arabs are quite popular ,i don't talk about the rascal type .
I talk about the one who dress well and have a good job .

Yes the rascal type will only go out with their kind and low-class french .

My friend who is arabian when he come to see me in taiwan .
he say he is Italien .
it works all the time .
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#47

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You might have better luck in a North America but the quality if women is lower. They are easy though.
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#48

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Quote: (06-23-2014 11:00 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I don't want you guys calling me a revolutionary but how about we keep religion out of this

You can't.
It's essentially the reason why they're behaving like that, because of the strict seperation of the genders and the overprotection women they're under sexualized and cockblock on a MASSIVE scale.
I don't get why they can't detach themselves from this really beta behaviour.
Instead of really trying to resolve this problem and stepping out of this backwards social system, they're still overprotective of their own (muslim) women and instead desperatly go for women who are not of their own kind.
It's on their own account why women in their world are generally not avaible.
On the one side they're really butthurt about their own women why they won't put out, but if you try to reason with them what this is all about, it's like they'd have a "on/off" button in their head that switches as soon as you mention anything related to muslim religion.
From that point any further discussion is useless and even hazardous to the relationship inbetween you and the guy you're talking to.

These are just two different worlds, which in the western world they cannot handle the unregulated, unblocked female freedom in a to us civilized way.
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Quote: (06-23-2014 11:00 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I don't want you guys calling me a revolutionary but how about we keep religion out of this

This is going to turn into the "is islam redpill?" thread sooner or later.
But I will just say that Islam is not a religion anyway.

If it is a religion it is not a religion only. Islam is a total system of life and contains within itself a particular social system, judicial system, and political system which includes geo-political aspirations - the conquest and administration of territory.

Quote: (06-24-2014 05:04 AM)Branimir Wrote:  

Quote: (06-23-2014 11:00 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I don't want you guys calling me a revolutionary but how about we keep religion out of this

You can't.
[...]
Instead of really trying to resolve this problem and stepping out of this backwards social system, they're still overprotective of their own (muslim) women and instead desperatly go for women who are not of their own kind.
It's on their own account why women in their world are generally not avaible.
On the one side they're really butthurt about their own women why they won't put out, but if you try to reason with them what this is all about, it's like they'd have a "on/off" button in their head that switches as soon as you mention anything related to muslim religion.
From that point any further discussion is useless and even hazardous to the relationship inbetween you and the guy you're talking to.


All true.
It is no secret that muslims are the most touchy people there is.
In fact, one little bit of criticism will cause them to explode!
... Often in public places or on Israeli school buses.

The less fucks you give, the more fucks you get.
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Quote: (06-23-2014 05:46 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

I’m from UK and every year I go back I see more and more white women wearing headscarves, because they’ve converted to Islam.

Another proof of the sheer supidity and ignorance of white women brainwashed by PC bullshit.
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