[Muppetdictator]

Gentlemen

I would be much obliged if some of the more experienced amongst you would share with me their thoughts on what has become an immensely frustrating experience for me.

Two questions:
Approaching
and
Logistics

How does one overcome the obstacle of approaching girls in a bar alone? They invariably sit in groups of two or more, and you approaching them alone seems to take all your power away- you come across as this friendless bloke moving from table to table soliciting sex from everyone. Needless to say, this will gets you nowhere, but neither will not making any approaches.

As for logistics- I cannot wrap my head around the idea of anyone easily hooking up in a big city with the logistical difficulties it presents. The city in question is Sydney- where its somewhat foolish to own a car and rent is sky-high.

It seems entirely implausible to ask the girl to take the public transport with you back to your place. (where you have a flatmate)

It seems an utterly desperate move to acquire an inner city
bachelor's pad (at great cost) solely for this purpose, with the additional risk that walking 20 minutes in the cold back to your place will kill any sort of warmth between the two of you.

Women, I've found, live in share houses, or even share rooms here, sometimes up to 40 minutes away by public transport, so counting on them to have a suitable venue is futile.

There must be way to circumvent these problems.

[ThePianoMan]

You need to read Bang by Roosh. It'll have most of the answers you seek.

1 - It's all about opportunity. You need to pay attention to when girls are moving to the bar to get drinks, drifting from a group, etc. Take advantage, pretend you've seen her in a school and get the approach going.

2 - You need to go to a bar close to your place. Your chances of a bang diminish exponentially as you live further away from the bar. Keep it close and you can move things to the next venue quickly. Unless the girl is really chill and well buzzed, you must use cabs for convenience.

3 - If your higher price pad gives you a sense of status, why not, especially if you can afford it. Girls respect where you live most when you live beyond their own means.

A girl will rarely invite you to their place to avoid seeming like a slut if they have roommates. They're too scared of their reputation. You need your own place where you have alcohol, music, and lighting that is well-suited to escalating to a bang.

[WestIndianArchie]

How did you find this forum?

You sound like you don't even know the slightest bit about game.

Methinks troll.



WIA

[Muppetdictator]

(06-19-2014 11:05 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

How did you find this forum?

You sound like you don't even know the slightest bit about game.

Methinks troll.



WIA

I do. I find that most "gaming advice" and books, however, seems to assume that the reader is charismatic and rich enough to somehow hypnotise women into fucking them in bathroom stalls or on carseats.

They rarely seem to offer anything but insults to someone who's inexperienced and needs to start of with the basics.

[iknowexactly]

Quote:

It seems an utterly desperate move to acquire an inner city
bachelor's pad (at great cost) solely for this purpose, with the additional risk that walking 20 minutes in the cold back to your place will kill any sort of warmth between the two of you.

Women, I've found, live in share houses, or even share rooms here, sometimes up to 40 minutes away by public transport, so counting on them to have a suitable venue is futile.

There must be way to circumvent these problems.

Sorry if I'm wrong, but from what you're saying, you haven't even tried these things yet and you've wound them up in your head as failure scenarios.

As far as bars go, I don't go at all, it's where you go to meet alcoholics and sluts unless they're really young.

If cold-starting conversations is intimidating for you, gradually approach the behavior you want to do in small baby-steps. I talk to every cashier every time I buy something, man or woman. "How's work?" "Are the customers nice today?"

Always add a little bit to every interaction you have with everyone all through your day. They will be happy someone notices them and you will improve your skills.

We learn faster from falling than from waiting. Except in sky-diving. ™

[weambulance]

Game isn't some rigid formula for success, which is the way you're seemingly treating it. Be flexible, be creative. I live in a town of 30-40k people, spread out, in the middle of nowhere. Should I just give up on sex and wank for the next 15 months because things aren't perfect? Fuck no!

Talk to women you see during the day (Day Bang, read it). Take dance lessons. Start doing yoga. Volunteer at an animal shelter. There's all kinds of stuff you can do to meet girls. Get numbers, and invite them to do the cool shit you should be doing if you have an interesting life. Some of them will end up in your bed. It's not rocket surgery.

[Baga]

(06-19-2014 11:55 PM)Muppetdictator Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 11:05 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

How did you find this forum?

You sound like you don't even know the slightest bit about game.

Methinks troll.



WIA

I do. I find that most "gaming advice" and books, however, seems to assume that the reader is charismatic and rich enough to somehow hypnotise women into fucking them in bathroom stalls or on carseats.

They rarely seem to offer anything but insults to someone who's inexperienced and needs to start of with the basics.

Have you read bang? If not, argument invalid....

[Ethan Amarante]

(06-19-2014 09:56 PM)Muppetdictator Wrote:  

It seems entirely implausible to ask the girl to take the public transport with you back to your place.

(06-19-2014 10:08 PM)ThePianoMan Wrote:  

2 - You need to go to a bar close to your place. Your chances of a bang diminish exponentially as you live further away from the bar. Keep it close and you can move things to the next venue quickly. Unless the girl is really chill and well buzzed, you must use cabs for convenience.

I wish I could take ThePianoMan's advice; I'm sure it works out for a lot of people. Alas, I'm very selective with regards to where I go out to pull.

I say just keep a few notes under your rubber johnny (condom) to pay for a taxi. It's far more economical than renting a place specifically for bringing women back to. I instantly replace this cash when I wake up in the morning.

I have four secret pockets in my wallet and each of them is dedicated to a different item of sexual paraphernalia, haha.

If for some reason that doesn't sound like a good idea to you, renting a hotel (or love hotel room if you're in E Asia) works a treat and makes the situation clear, which is good if you're sure she's up for it.

Also, live with the right people if you have to share. If they aren't the sort of people who can tolerate you bringing women back to yours in the middle of the night, they're probably going to be a pain in the arse to live with generally.

[The Beast1]

What city are you in?

You should first get involved in some community groups to scope out the city's culture. Every town has a different vibe that will affect your game. Don't go into events looking to get laid. Look to meet people, be friendly, have fun, and smile.

You don't need to be charismatic and loaded to make friends.

Be fun, friendly, and aloof. The girls will come naturally.