[Truth Teller]

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Men have so many wrong ideas about women. That’s natural, because we’re in a different sexual role and we all fall prey to projection. One common wrong-headed idea is to see a really hot girl and think:

She must have so many options!

Women are all about the quality of options, not the number. We can see a girl post an attention-whoring selfie on Facebook to draw 100 likes and fill her chodestream. Wow, so many options! No, that’s projection. If a man drew 100 likes from girls he’d naturally assume 90 of them want to fuck him (and he’d be right) and he’d then start mining the seam of all the pretty ones. The girl’s problem is that those likes are low quality attention. It validates her but doesn’t solve her pressing sexual needs.

She wants high quality male attention and that’s a scarce resource. She can’t draw it with a selfie.
How dare she!

How dare she!

All girls have an Attraction Threshold below which the men are insignificant and might as well be furniture. Above that threshold are the “hot” and “interesting” men. The specifics of this depend on the girl. Some like jacked young douchebags. Some like mature men with gravitas. Some are all about the money and handbags. Each girl has her particular preferences and only certain men meet them and rise above the threshold.

Once you’re above her threshold you are now a scarce resource. She won’t just blow you off, ignore your texts and so on (except as a tactic in the mating dance). Some girls have an exceedingly high (or exceedingly narrow) attraction threshold and those girls seem difficult until you figure it out. The process is actually very simple:

Girl has unusually specific requirements in her man. For example if she’s a tall, intelligent fashion model with family money she’ll be very specific because so many pillars of her innate hypergamy can’t be easily found in one man.
All day every day, the men she meets don’t come close to her attraction threshold. She never meets the man who makes her ears perk up. On the rare cases it happens, something happens on the date to burst the bubble and disappoint her.
After years without sex she gives up on men. Her sex drive goes into hibernation and she focuses all her attention on other pursuits.
She’s dismissive of the men who hit on her. She has a learned helplessness – “I’ll waste my time and emotional investment getting to know this man and inevitably be disappointed. So why bother. Just screen them out. I’ll never find a man. Better not to look. It’ll just depress me.”
You come along. She’s perked up and tries to No-Filter you to oblivion. She seems to difficult. What a bitch.
You persevere. You’re a trained player and this is a puzzle you might be able to solve. Finally, against her better judgement, frustration and hope put her on a Day 2 with you.
After an initially frosty and defeatist beginning, she starts to warm to you. She’s enjoying this. She doesn’t really know what to do. She’s never been on a date so long without something going wrong.
And then – ping! – something happens and her defeatism falls away. She realises you are not fucking up. “This man might actually be what I’ve been dreaming about all these barren years”
“Fuck! He is! Finally, a man I can fuck!”

And then it’s in the bag. You are the scarcest of resources. All of that pent-up horniness bubbles up and the volcano explodes. The girl will now chase you. You are the only one who can deliver her. And just like that – often there’s a very particular easy-to-see moment on the date – she flips 180 from being a dismissive, difficult princess to her being a total chode.

http://krauserpua.com/2014/06/16/the-sup...rsal-girl/

Good stuff. I agree with him... when an attractive girl puts up a photo on Facebook, she may get 150-200 "likes." But really, how many of those guys are men whose attention she actually wants?

[All or Nothing]

(06-16-2014 06:35 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

All girls have an Attraction Threshold below which the men are insignificant and might as well be furniture. Above that threshold are the “hot” and “interesting” men. The specifics of this depend on the girl. Some like jacked young douchebags. Some like mature men with gravitas. Some are all about the money and handbags. Each girl has her particular preferences and only certain men meet them and rise above the threshold.

Attraction threshold is an idea espoused by GoodLookingLoser.

I was also perusing GLL's blog recently and he defined Game the same way that Krauser does.

It is definitely interesting to see how dating advice is still evolving as new ideas come into play.

[void]

What is the conclusion? You have to be better then all her beta orbiters, and be "her" alpha. Or, you better outshine all the competition.

[Goldmund]

Krauser has synthesized the game to another level. That post is pure truth.

I used to be terrified of hot women, but since my attitude toward them has changed completely--instead of seeing them as this unattainable goddess, I treat the hottest girls like ugly little sisters, and what happens now, now I'm having threesomes with model chicks. check out the new Montauk thread in the travel section for the story: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37232.html

That attitude shift was like having the heavens parted. A whole new level of pussy was dropped down from the sky. And you know why?

Because as a male, you automatically have more inherent value than a female. When you treat them like playthings, they respond with instant positivity.

That is the warm, soft truth that is so hard to accept in our backwards society. And the hotter the girl, the more backwards (pedalstalized) she gets treated.

[Truth Teller]

Basically, if you have fun with women and don't care about proving anything to them, you're ahead of almost all men. Most men are stilted and awkward around even average looking women.

[Bushido]

Great post, although I laughed at the fashion model example. Have yet to meet a fashion model who wasn't promiscuous.

[WestIndianArchie]

(06-16-2014 06:57 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  

It is definitely interesting to see how dating advice is still evolving as new ideas come into play.

New ideas? Or new jargon?

WIA

[WestIndianArchie]

(06-16-2014 07:04 PM)void Wrote:  

What is the conclusion? You have to be better then all her beta orbiters, and be "her" alpha. Or, you better outshine all the competition.

You could take it that way...

The way I read it

"Each girl has her particular preferences and only certain men meet them and rise above the threshold."

Means that if she wants James Dean, you can't be James Bond or James Brown.

It's not very helpful at all, imo.

What game teaches us, teaches you...taught me at least, is that you can't read a chick's mind.

If she's tatted up and pierced, standing outside of an indy rock club, and you pass by looking like Donald Trump, most newb players would just keep on heading to the cigar bar and not even attempt a holler.

A vet might think, "Hmm this young lost soul might have some daddy issues even though she's rebelling right now. Maybe I should open my mouth since she's looking tight."

Game is what you say and do to get a chick to do what you want.

But to borrow a pop psychology term, what you're really doing is an exercise in choice architecture.

You're carefully presenting her with opportunities to make decisions, and by structuring your encounter you're subtlely nudging her to make the right decision. There is no force involved.

Even the average 20 year old chick has far more experience in what needs to happen in a pick up situation than most players do. She's been offered many opportunities all day, and has been for years at this point. So many guys in the game think that they have it over these chicks, when the reality is she's the car dealer and you're the college kid with the good job and 800 credit score who just wants to go fast.

So you come at her with what you have to offer, presented as best you think. Let her make her decision.

Indeed, who am I to decide that fresh and nubile college sophomore wouldn't be interested in the WIA Experience? What about the soccer mom? The put together professional Asian chick?

I should let them decide, but I must present them the opportunity.

I've been with more girls that I don't look "right" with than I can count.
Once you get them into "wholesome activities", she's going to wonder where you were. She of course won't question her past judgment, as no one does. But she will love the ride she's on.

And after you've been with a chick for a bit, her friends can't imagine you apart. (until you are...lol)

This goes to a bigger issue, one that I see a lot of young players make this mistake.

They say seeing is believing.
You see something, and you believe it.

But men in particular, go much farther than that. They invent intricate back stories based on a mere glance.

That might have been useful hunting Wildebeest in the Serengeti, but the signs aren't nearly so clear in our modern savannah.

You've got to go find out. Most of the time you're wrong. You might not get a favorable outcome, but she's not the person you imagine her to be.

She's not the person you imagine her to be.

We put so much into how she looks, that the look bleeds over into everything that she does. Everything is imbued with her "dime piece" aura. At least when you start out.

The more you do it, the more the magic falls away.
Plenty of players go through depression.
Some come out the other side, appreciative of what women are, but they'll never again experience that blue pill joy of a relationship. ...

Alas,
WIA

[speakeasy]

Okay Krauser, so you meet a model, and you're a 5'8" average looking guy. So how do you get past her attraction threshold? Oh...game, right? Thanks. I'm off to bang Adrianna Lima now.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Krauser definetely advanced the knowledge of Game. He is one of the Game-scientists out there who makes life easier for the rest of us. Well done!

[memcpy]

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You come along. She’s perked up and tries to No-Filter you to oblivion. She seems to difficult. What a bitch.
You persevere. You’re a trained player and this is a puzzle you might be able to solve. Finally, against her better judgement, frustration and hope put her on a Day 2 with you.

More like she got banged by some dude from the club within meeting him for 30mins. I think Krauser is giving girls way too much credit.

More like i'm getting bored wondering why she isn't putting out and i'm thinking of just hitting on more chicks.

[caracal]

(06-16-2014 10:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 07:04 PM)void Wrote:  

What is the conclusion? You have to be better then all her beta orbiters, and be "her" alpha. Or, you better outshine all the competition.

You could take it that way...

The way I read it

"Each girl has her particular preferences and only certain men meet them and rise above the threshold."

Means that if she wants James Dean, you can't be James Bond or James Brown.

It's not very helpful at all, imo.

What game teaches us, teaches you...taught me at least, is that you can't read a chick's mind.

If she's tatted up and pierced, standing outside of an indy rock club, and you pass by looking like Donald Trump, most newb players would just keep on heading to the cigar bar and not even attempt a holler.

A vet might think, "Hmm this young lost soul might have some daddy issues even though she's rebelling right now. Maybe I should open my mouth since she's looking tight."

Game is what you say and do to get a chick to do what you want.

But to borrow a pop psychology term, what you're really doing is an exercise in choice architecture.

You're carefully presenting her with opportunities to make decisions, and by structuring your encounter you're subtlely nudging her to make the right decision. There is no force involved.

Even the average 20 year old chick has far more experience in what needs to happen in a pick up situation than most players do. She's been offered many opportunities all day, and has been for years at this point. So many guys in the game think that they have it over these chicks, when the reality is she's the car dealer and you're the college kid with the good job and 800 credit score who just wants to go fast.

So you come at her with what you have to offer, presented as best you think. Let her make her decision.

Indeed, who am I to decide that fresh and nubile college sophomore wouldn't be interested in the WIA Experience? What about the soccer mom? The put together professional Asian chick?

I should let them decide, but I must present them the opportunity.

I've been with more girls that I don't look "right" with than I can count.
Once you get them into "wholesome activities", she's going to wonder where you were. She of course won't question her past judgment, as no one does. But she will love the ride she's on.

And after you've been with a chick for a bit, her friends can't imagine you apart. (until you are...lol)

This goes to a bigger issue, one that I see a lot of young players make this mistake.

They say seeing is believing.
You see something, and you believe it.

But men in particular, go much farther than that. They invent intricate back stories based on a mere glance.

That might have been useful hunting Wildebeest in the Serengeti, but the signs aren't nearly so clear in our modern savannah.

You've got to go find out. Most of the time you're wrong. You might not get a favorable outcome, but she's not the person you imagine her to be.

She's not the person you imagine her to be.

We put so much into how she looks, that the look bleeds over into everything that she does. Everything is imbued with her "dime piece" aura. At least when you start out.

The more you do it, the more the magic falls away.
Plenty of players go through depression.
Some come out the other side, appreciative of what women are, but they'll never again experience that blue pill joy of a relationship. ...

Alas,
WIA

[RawGod]

(06-16-2014 10:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

But men in particular, go much farther than that. They invent intricate back stories based on a mere glance.

That might have been useful hunting Wildebeest in the Serengeti, but the signs aren't nearly so clear in our modern savannah.

You've got to go find out. Most of the time you're wrong. You might not get a favorable outcome, but she's not the person you imagine her to be.

She's not the person you imagine her to be.

The more you do it, the more the magic falls away.
Plenty of players go through depression.

So true. For a long time I'd let myself get excited about that special woman, the one who I just met but who I was sure could get me on a deep level. Someone who I could actually discuss my passions with, etc.

Not only was I wrong every time about them having depth, but it actively repulsed them.

For example, I love classical music and have dated music students and in one case a pro violinist. Think we could enjoy evenings together drinking wine and listening to music? Sharing our deep musical experiences? No way. These kinds of girls tend to be narcissistic divas and you generally have to run hard push-pull game. They have no real intellectual or artistic passion at all. Great fucks yes, spiritual partners, forget it.

[amity]

(06-17-2014 01:23 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Okay Krauser, so you meet a model, and you're a 5'8" average looking guy. So how do you get past her attraction threshold? Oh...game, right? Thanks. I'm off to bang Adrianna Lima now.

But look at Krauser himself, guy doesn't look anymore than 5'10" at the very most, perhaps less than that.
He's also what I would call average looking, and his dress sense is not amazing either.
The Geordie accent is pretty unsophisticated too, and he doesn't exactly have a deep masculine voice.
So, on the face of it, he doesn't have many traditionally masculine traits.
And yet he's still out there banging strange in every country he goes to.
So, he's killed the height, looks and status stigmas in one fell swoop.
Why? Partly cos he approaches a lot, and is able to engage women in witty, easygoing, disposable conversations.
But mostly because he's got that irrational self confidence that Heartiste talks about.
He believes he is good enough to bang 8s,9s and 10s, he believes it so much, it's become internalised.
Self fulfilling prophecy at work here, he's just taken it to a level few of us here have, but all of us can improve our successes by applying Krauser's advise.

[FilipSRB]

I don't think its irrational self confidence, over the years his game improved alot which you can see for yourself if you go back and read his first posts in his blog. So its confidence that grew from years of hard work and increased success.

[RawGod]

Krauser seems to have the kind of confidence of an upper class (well upper middle) English guy who knows that he's intelligent. He's like a throwback to better days for Britain. It just wouldn't occur to him to get jacked and attempt a deeper voice.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-17-2014 04:38 AM)amity Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 01:23 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Okay Krauser, so you meet a model, and you're a 5'8" average looking guy. So how do you get past her attraction threshold? Oh...game, right? Thanks. I'm off to bang Adrianna Lima now.

But look at Krauser himself, guy doesn't look anymore than 5'10" at the very most, perhaps less than that.
He's also what I would call average looking, and his dress sense is not amazing either.
The Geordie accent is pretty unsophisticated too, and he doesn't exactly have a deep masculine voice.
So, on the face of it, he doesn't have many traditionally masculine traits.
And yet he's still out there banging strange in every country he goes to.
So, he's killed the height, looks and status stigmas in one fell swoop.
Why? Partly cos he approaches a lot, and is able to engage women in witty, easygoing, disposable conversations.
But mostly because he's got that irrational self confidence that Heartiste talks about.
He believes he is good enough to bang 8s,9s and 10s, he believes it so much, it's become internalised.
Self fulfilling prophecy at work here, he's just taken it to a level few of us here have, but all of us can improve our successes by applying Krauser's advise.

Krauser has gone beyond the usual Game teachings into other territories - he even focuses on speech patterns - slowing down deliberately to get more of the prowling Alpha appeal:

From His Blog:
Things to note for those insufficiently observant to just see:

I have a languid manner with slow low voice and a poker face
I’m the tree, she’s the squirrel running around me
I’m comfortable leading her, and she likes following
She defers to me and qualifies
I feed her soft dominance too, giving her smiles and laughs

He also got something interesting in the form of R-selection clothing and accessories, which convey more strongly the exciting Lover vibe to a girl instead of the potential Provider-impression:
   

Sure you can do everything without and every Player has a different character and vibe. Alpha/Sigma states go from jacked hyped up Fitness guy to calm Hipster. There is no wrong here - just different facets and he does a good job covering more aspects of Game.

I also see here many guys especially gaming only in the US - the girls in LA, NY and other different major cities are different than in London, Vienna or Moscow. Basic Game is similar and they react to the same kind of Alpha states, but girls make different lifestyle-choices, feminism and social destruction is at different stages there and it shows in their bahavior patterns.

Trying to analyze those patterns is not necesserily futile - sure they are impulsive and sometimes mindless - but why are they that way and how can we use it to improve our Game? That is why the manosphere is expanding ever more. We are not just rehashing Mystery-method for Night-Game forever.

And we also have to accept the fact that we are all different and will have different opinions. The PC-talk of today tries to seperate and unify people via the crazy idea that we either have to agree with another person 100% or that person is the enemy and all wrong! In the old times it was normal to disagree on some things and work together on other goals. That is the natural way of things. Individuality means disagreement on a few points. And also sometimes you simply change your opinion - take another Red Pill so to say.

[funkyzeit]

Pretty much spot on. A lot of 9s and 10s are lonely as fuck and depressed. Lonely by choice or more likely, by avoiding to choose anyone. Persistence mixed with playful personality and drama works with them. After you fucked a 9 hard (which no doubt you will) then she's pretty much yours.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-17-2014 07:55 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

Pretty much spot on. A lot of 9s and 10s are lonely as fuck and depressed. Lonely by choice or more likely, by avoiding to choose anyone. Persistence mixed with playful personality and drama works with them. After you fucked a 9 hard (which no doubt you will) then she's pretty much yours.

Remember that graph - though it's been designed by Manboobs it was changed by a female journalist.

The female 10 has just so little to choose from to satisfy her hypergamous nature. It is an oversimplification, but it can apply to some women with a crazy high attraction threshold.

   

[advert-ugghh]

Krauser is a fucking Boss, hands down.

He's also right in that daygame is much different than night, and produces higher quality women you can bang more than once.