[Cattle Rustler]

@DistantLight:

Yo go brah! Keep muff diving those bitches! How old are you now?

(08-17-2014 06:06 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

Castle Rustler,

I was inactive on match for a few months due to work but now I'm back on the horse.

I'm a decent looking 28 years old from SEA, and I've been getting a lot of good responses from girls aged 25-33. However, I'm having a lot of trouble with girls 35-45 who think I am too young to be their beta provider.

How do you deal with first messages? You mentioned you ask about age from the get go. What else do you put on your first message?

I tell them that guys their age are boring, already married, want to be single or date younger women. "If I were 36, why would I date a 35 year old when I can date a nice 18 year old?".....this shit makes their hamster spin, but they all admit that it's true. Most of the time I just tell them age is a number. I just tell them that their pictures looks nice and we are similar. It's a plain copy and paste message that seems detailed but covers all the bases. PM me and I'll pass it along. Oh, and I always go for the date on the first message....makes you look like a go getter!

Also, I just found how to automate sending messages to bitches online!!!

This shit is golden, 5-10 minutes of my time just got reduced to 15 seconds! If I'm traveling or something and running short on time, this will do everything for me!

It sucks I just found out how to do it right now.

[Brodiaga]

Cattle Rustler

How did you automate sending messages?

[Cattle Rustler]

(08-21-2014 08:33 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Cattle Rustler

How did you automate sending messages?

Check your PMs, sent you the instructions.

If anyone wants the instructions, shoot me a PM and I'll send them.

The last thing I want is for lurkers to try this en mass and ruin it for us.

[Comte De St. Germain]

My only issue with MILF Hunting is that it's much harder for the 18-20 crowd. Think it's much more suited to the men 22+. Well I should be sticking to college girls but the occasional MILF doesn't sound so bad.

[redbeard]

I'd like to know more about automating messages...as well as what openers you use. I have never done online and would like to take advantage of the week trial as best as I can.

[Sourcecode]

(12-26-2014 04:13 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

@Dr. Howard - Hah, thanks for making my day! Your comment made me laugh.

I have yet to bang a blonde cougar.....I've been close many times but mess it up at the last moment.

@Emancipator - You're right. Many bitches have their midlife crisis moment because:

1 - They married too young, shoutout to all those "marry young conservative virgin" men, she will turn into a young-dick-slut by 30.

2 - Didn't have fun when younger, career woman who want to do fun/crazy shit.

3 - Or because she is tired of being fucked by old farts who can't get their dick up (even with Viagra).

I know broads who worked their entire 22-36 span and invite me to do shit, unsatisfied wives, and women who were married for 25 years (she got married while underaged).

Rustler posted this in a different thread.
I figured it should be quoted here.

While.. Almost all the chicks I've been banging have been my age or younger..
I just swiped up another cougar.
She really should be classified as puma...considering she seems new at this.
Shes 33..no kids..got out of 8 year relationship with an old far.
Luckily.. she got the good genes...I saw a picture of her sister who is in her early 40s.. and the sister looks ten years younger also.

She seems to fall under both 2 and 3 or Rustlers post.

She talked alot about making a shitty career choice..getting to travel a little.. but never anything majorly fun.
Then ending up in a 8 year relationship with a dude older than her, that was boring..
This she ended the relationship... took words of advice from her cougar sister.. and i hhappened to be in the right place.

Of course.. the first date was a restaurant bar.... a bottle of wine and a ten minute drive back to my place.

[TrueSlyr]

looking through Match now (NYC) and just seems like a mirror image of Okcupid lol.

[Sourcecode]

Im thinking about trying Match.
Since milfs and cougars arent something I actively look for..I never used it.

But it's the holidays..
OKC is currently full of young girls that are, tired of their families, moving to new cities, or trying to find a winter fling.

Match is probably full of old broads looking for the same right now

[Cattle Rustler]

(12-26-2014 07:00 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  

looking through Match now (NYC) and just seems like a mirror image of Okcupid lol.

Really?

I've tried using OKC in NYC (to see if the number are much bigger than Dallas) and I found the difference between OKC/Match to be different in any city. Match has less trailer trash and hoodrat chicks. You will still find cheap bitches on match but the frequency is less. This could probably be due to the fact that Match is a paid service and it most broke (who tend to be fat/trashy) hos won't pay and leave after their trial period.

[Cattle Rustler]

(09-15-2014 07:01 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

I'd like to know more about automating messages...as well as what openers you use. I have never done online and would like to take advantage of the week trial as best as I can.

Unfortunately Match, OKC, and POF upgraded their pages and made it difficult to use "iMacro" to automate the messages.

[Cattle Rustler]

(09-14-2014 05:04 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

My only issue with MILF Hunting is that it's much harder for the 18-20 crowd. Think it's much more suited to the men 22+. Well I should be sticking to college girls but the occasional MILF doesn't sound so bad.

I can tell why you're saying this, most will mention "how will you buy me a drink then?". It happened to me when I was 16-20. The best way is to deflect and say "if you need alcohol so bad, here's the number for AA". Or better yet, use them to buy you alcohol.

I'm 22, yet I never carry my ID so sometimes it creates an inconvenience when going out. So I suggest for her to buy a bottle and we'll drink it at her place or she drinks alcohol while I drink something non-alcoholic,

[TrueSlyr]

(12-27-2014 06:28 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 07:00 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  

looking through Match now (NYC) and just seems like a mirror image of Okcupid lol.

Really?

I've tried using OKC in NYC (to see if the number are much bigger than Dallas) and I found the difference between OKC/Match to be different in any city. Match has less trailer trash and hoodrat chicks. You will still find cheap bitches on match but the frequency is less. This could probably be due to the fact that Match is a paid service and it most broke (who tend to be fat/trashy) hos won't pay and leave after their trial period.

Yes, a lot of the girls Im seeing on match are already on Okcupid. If they are more likely to reply to you on Match vs. Okc, could be a different question

[Mentavious]

These girls are paying for match so they are more likely to take this shit serious.

This is just my hypothesis....

[Sourcecode]

Fuck paying for match though.
I just can't bring myself to do it.

[TrueSlyr]

^^ Agreed, but could lead to a false image she presents to you.

Let's assume a girl has tinder, okcupid, and match. Assume you have three potential ways of communicating with this girl.

On tinder, you can message her and convince her to come to your apartment on a Tuesday night for "a drink and a movie". You two fuck and she leaves your apartment at 2am

On okcupid, you agree to meet at a bar you've pinpointed close to your apartment to bounce to after.

On Match, she settles for nothing less than wine and some light snacks at a dimly-lit bar in the west village

[Cattle Rustler]

Post some identical profiles for every girl on match. You make it sound spoke every girl on Match has a tinder or OKC account.

Use the 7day free trial, you can use it every 30 days.

Don't know how the dating service affects the date. Mine are wine bar or patio restaurant for drinks then to a room. Also, not many older women use tinder.

Mentavious hit the nail right in the head. You're most likely to use something if you paid for it.

[MrXY]

Thanks to Mentavious for referring me to the Match 7 day trial on this thread. I signed up yesterday, quality is much better than POF and Ive already got a few numbers.

[heavy]

I'm developing a appreciation for (older) divorced mom.

I am reflecting on two mini-relationships in the past year, though, as you'll see, my most recent FWB is the primary reason for typing this.

She's a mid-30s divorced mother of two...a nurse (important factor in some of the characteristics below):

- Loving. Jeez did I just use that word, maybe a little strong, but...she has kids, so she's not agenda-driven. She has a certain settled peacefulness about her a woman without kids doesn't have.

- Sex vs Attention. We know sex and attention must both be considered in the same context with women. While all women love sex, younger chics also have a high need for attention as they leverage their sexual value for the highest value men. With this older divorced mom, (1) she gets plenty of attention from her kids, (2) being older - 30s - lowers her expectation of finding another baby-daddy and her need for attention from a guy, so her reason to see me is far more sexual than hypergamous. My fuck-mommy just wants the D.

- Healthy insecurity. They are fully secure as a mother to their kids (protect, provide, etc), but are insecure because of their position in life. After all, they have little to offer a man long-term, and they know it. My girl last night asked multiple times, "You aren't just using me for sex are you?" in a pseudo-serious tone. Of course I teased her by repeating the question back a couple times, then satisfied her with a real answer. It's a nice balance of security in the world but insecurity with me.

- Busy a lot. She works full time and has her kids most of the time, so I don't have to see her too frequently. She's oftentimes sitting home texting me because she's bored, I can go over there on any given night and see her, and she's not out partying all the time.

- More relate-able. She's been through a divorce. She has kids (I equate a woman's relationship with her kids to a man's relationship with his wife), so she's more grounded than the opportunistic (as Rollo Tomassi says) young 20-something hottie lookin' for Mr Right. Also, not sure if this is age/mommy related, but she seems less worried about being politically correct...we talked the other day about how much we hate fat slobs...even shared some pics we took of fat people doing fat people things (giant sodas, fast food).

- More responsible. She doesn't drink frequently and definitely doesn't drink much when she has her kids. And...when she's kid free she'll let loose and get a little crazy.

- I can relax (less gaming and longer term) and have an actual relationship (more honest and open) with a woman without having to be the boyfriend. In my relationship with her I see how even a red pill man could easily become complacent in marriage. 'Course, I'm not marrying her.

Perhaps it's my current avoidance of any type of normal girlfriend relationship, but right now I'm enjoying the moment.

Two sidenotes:
- God forbid her kids are raised in a broken home, go to day-care, and I'm fuckin their mom in the other room while they're sleeping...but they ain't my kids.

- This doesn't discount my appreciation for younger hotter women. Obviously I still appreciate young hot chics. I always have and always will...that's just instinctual. Generally speaking 18-21 year olds are the hottest human beings on earth, and rest assured, I banged a 21 year old last week.

[Lizard King]

Can I get some criticism of this reply to "you're too young" etc.:

Women my age aren't very feminine.


Does it puff up their ego too much?

[Kish]

The cougar population is rising.

The population of single young men in America is always rising.

Cougars will not attract successful older men with game(these men will be fucking younger women)

Younger men will continue to strike out with women their own age.

Prediction:

Cougars and younger men dating will become more the norm(in America).

[avanti]

You're talking about MikeCF's tips to rough sex. Any link or info?
Thanks for your guide, gonna get my balls together and do it!

[Vaun]

when I was 22 I had just broken up with my GF at the time, a younger girl I was with for almost 3 years, and moved into a new apartment. My landlord was a 36 year old woman who was high ranking in law enforcement and fresh off her engagement. I ended up being with her for a year, and it ended when she discovered I wasn't willing to get married and have children. I still banged her for two years after that while she dated. In a lot of ways I was sowing my oats, but she also convinced me to go to college and opened a lot of doors for me to better people.

[The_Wonder]

This is a market I wouldn't mind tapping into. Does anyone know if the Cougar Culture is similar in London as it is in the US? Are there plenty of DTF cougars (early 30's) on Match.com and POF?

[Cattle Rustler]

I wouldn't try match.com for the UK, there aren't many members there. Try the local dating websites or OKC. I've seen plenty of cougars in the EU/UK than the US, mostly because of its more liberal culture rather than the prudish US.

Do you know about this website? http://www.lovestruck.com/uk/ I saw it when riding the tube a couple of years ago, don't know what was made of it (bust or success?).

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Cou...loc=London

Not really sure about this link http://www.meetup.com/london-young-man-d...der-women/ the local one in my area was headed by a fat woman.

[The_Wonder]

Cheers for that mate. Nah I've never heard of it, but I'll be sure to check it out, and the meetup one as well. The thing with London is, there is top talent everywhere, and the Cougar market is no different. I can imagine the bored Chiswick housewives are ripe for a good fucking between folding laundry and picking up Tarquin from the local prep school.

Haha. Yhe yelp link mentioned Tiger Tiger Piccadilly Circus. People say Smithfield is London's main meat market, I beg to differ!