[boywonder34]

I found this article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteveryt...t-married/

"The data show that #yesallwomen would be safer with fewer boyfriends around their kids." No shit.

Time to man up fellas!

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

The only problem is that women themselves are kicking husbands out. What does the author propose we do with that?

[draguer]

That horse has bolted - it'll take more than recognition of these statistics to outweigh the huge incentives men have to not get married.

Note that there is no recognition of men having their own agency, just consideration of another way a fair maiden may benefit from a man being so lucky to play his role in her movie, which is directed by her, written by her and starring her.


Newbie tip: quote the text of the article in the thread.

[AnonymousBosch]

(06-14-2014 04:51 AM)draguer Wrote:  

Note that there is no recognition of men having their own agency, just consideration of another way a fair maiden may benefit from a man being so lucky to play his role in her movie, which is directed by her, written by her and starring her.

Basically: every op-ed written by a woman, ever.

[boycottamericanwomen]

It's pretty clear by now that women subconsciously want to be controlled by men, but they have been brainwashed by feminism from birth so it is basically impossible for them to ever submit themselves to a man. The feminist brainwashing over-riding women's basic instincts is the source of modern women's schizophrenic personalities. It's like trying to run Windows software on a Macintosh computer, it is simply not compatible.

I think a lot of guys wouldn't have any problem "manning up" (getting married) if women themselves were qualified for marriage. But more and more men are waking up and realizing that modern women are simply unfit for marriage and so it's an incredibly stupid decision to marry a western woman.

I don't really feel any pity for western women because they've brought this shit on themselves. Tens of millions of divorced men and yet women still think younger men are stupid enough to get married?

"Basically: every op-ed written by a woman, ever."

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

[draguer]

(06-14-2014 05:08 AM)boycottamericanwomen Wrote:  

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

I don't hold any ill feeling for this, solipsism is their inherent nature. The problem starts when you realise that while previous generations of men might have chuckled at this behaviour around the BBQ, married western men now live in a legal and social environment where this behaviour unchecked truly has the power to destroy everything they have built and their future.

It would be nice to slip back into the blue pill fantasy I spent my childhood in, and recreate the marriage of my parents. But with the stories I hear and see all the time, and the freedom and peace of mind that living a red pill life provides, I don't see that happening any time soon.

[KorbenDallas]

Quote:

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

I disagree. Women are fully capable of seeing men as human beings. I have met women who are how you describe in America and in Eastern Europe. But, I've also been with and met women who understand nature and see men as more than just "a tool to serve her."

A confusing thing for guys is a high status, sexy, woman see's the vast majority of men as simply background noise. When this type of girl talks about "men" she is talking only about the guys who she has fucked, would fuck, or is currently fucking.

This dynamic has been talked about before, but having experienced it myself, I feel somewhat qualified on this subject. A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king. I'm having trouble explaining this, but there are girls in the world, (mostly non-western) who aren't angry they've been born women and see it as a matter of course to do womanly things and please their man.

I just don't think women see every guy as a tool to serve her. It's ingrained in a woman's head to serve someone more powerful than herself.

I will say that women are far more brutal than men in their actions to those they "perceive" to be of less status.

I enjoy dressing very humbly to the sometimes annoyance girls I'm with , but its funny to see the change in treatment I get from strangers (women especially) when they first judge me, and then they see a hot girl on my arm, and then it's all smiles and deference.


Edit: I do agree with the brainwashing bit and "boycottamericanwomens" point about the "schizo-ness" of modern women is spot on. This has also effected Eastern Europe a little bit, but it's still a lot better compared to America.

[Constitution45]

(06-14-2014 05:08 AM)boycottamericanwomen Wrote:  

It's pretty clear by now that women subconsciously want to be controlled by men, but they have been brainwashed by feminism from birth so it is basically impossible for them to ever submit themselves to a man. The feminist brainwashing over-riding women's basic instincts is the source of modern women's schizophrenic personalities. It's like trying to run Windows software on a Macintosh computer, it is simply not compatible.

I think a lot of guys wouldn't have any problem "manning up" (getting married) if women themselves were qualified for marriage. But more and more men are waking up and realizing that modern women are simply unfit for marriage and so it's an incredibly stupid decision to marry a western woman.

I don't really feel any pity for western women because they've brought this shit on themselves. Tens of millions of divorced men and yet women still think younger men are stupid enough to get married?

"Basically: every op-ed written by a woman, ever."

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

Good point, as a man you have no choice to sleep around and get a high notch count, because there are so few women who make long term relationship material. From personal experience these women who adhere to this philosophy, let alone the ones who proclaim they are feminists. Are very depressed people, when I was less clued up, I would get close to them and even start friendships and relationships with them, geez it was like going into the Vipers nest. I truly pity guys who end up making long term investments with them, i.e. kids. They will end up seeing it all taken away.

[draguer]

^KD

Being that guy is a great feeling. I take great pleasure in warming up ice queens

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(06-14-2014 06:16 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Quote:

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

I disagree. Women are fully capable of seeing men as human beings. I have met women who are how you describe in America and in Eastern Europe. But, I've also been with and met women who understand nature and see men as more than just "a tool to serve her."

A confusing thing for guys is a high status, sexy, woman see's the vast majority of men as simply background noise. When this type of girl talks about "men" she is talking only about the guys who she has fucked, would fuck, or is currently fucking.

This dynamic has been talked about before, but having experienced it myself, I feel somewhat qualified on this subject. A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king. I'm having trouble explaining this, but there are girls in the world, (mostly non-western) who aren't angry they've been born women and see it as a matter of course to do womanly things and please their man.

I just don't think women see every guy as a tool to serve her. It's ingrained in a woman's head to serve someone more powerful than herself.

I will say that women are far more brutal than men in their actions to those they "perceive" to be of less status.

I enjoy dressing very humbly to the sometimes annoyance girls I'm with , but its funny to see the change in treatment I get from strangers (women especially) when they first judge me, and then they see a hot girl on my arm, and then it's all smiles and deference.

"A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king."

I've seen this. It's often the kind of woman who has a bunch of Beta Orbiter minions and one Alpha she orbits around. Women like this used to pull off this routine unnoticed, but Facebook and its comments section have exposed them (I wonder how much other unpleasant stuff about human nature FB has unintentionally revealed).

What troubles me is that the Beta Orbiters don't seem to realize what they're doing...even when they've all made comments in succession under one Facebook posting. Here is an example taken verbatim from the page of a woman I know:

WOMAN: Refrigerator raid commencing in 5...4...3...2...

BETA 1: Wow, you're up late.
BETA 2: Oh no you Didn't?
BETA 3: Lol. Good morning beautiful.

I've long stopped posting anything on FB, but now use to solely to observe human nature. In other words, I'm thinking less and less of humans every day.

[Captain Gh]

(06-14-2014 04:51 AM)draguer Wrote:  

That horse has bolted - it'll take more than recognition of these statistics to outweigh the huge incentives men have to not get married.

Note that there is no recognition of men having their own agency, just consideration of another way a fair maiden may benefit from a man being so lucky to play his role in her movie, which is directed by her, written by her and starring her.


Newbie tip: quote the text of the article in the thread.

Ah!! I always love it when I get a good reminder of some Patrice's famous analogy! Great way to start my day hehe!!

[Captain Gh]

(06-14-2014 04:51 AM)draguer Wrote:  

That horse has bolted - it'll take more than recognition of these statistics to outweigh the huge incentives men have to not get married.

Note that there is no recognition of men having their own agency, just consideration of another way a fair maiden may benefit from a man being so lucky to play his role in her movie, which is directed by her, written by her and starring her.


Newbie tip: quote the text of the article in the thread.

Ah!! I always love it when I get a good reminder of some Patrice's famous analogy! Great way to start my day hehe!!

[boycottamericanwomen]

(06-14-2014 06:43 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(06-14-2014 06:16 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Quote:

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

I disagree. Women are fully capable of seeing men as human beings. I have met women who are how you describe in America and in Eastern Europe. But, I've also been with and met women who understand nature and see men as more than just "a tool to serve her."

A confusing thing for guys is a high status, sexy, woman see's the vast majority of men as simply background noise. When this type of girl talks about "men" she is talking only about the guys who she has fucked, would fuck, or is currently fucking.

This dynamic has been talked about before, but having experienced it myself, I feel somewhat qualified on this subject. A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king. I'm having trouble explaining this, but there are girls in the world, (mostly non-western) who aren't angry they've been born women and see it as a matter of course to do womanly things and please their man.

I just don't think women see every guy as a tool to serve her. It's ingrained in a woman's head to serve someone more powerful than herself.

I will say that women are far more brutal than men in their actions to those they "perceive" to be of less status.

I enjoy dressing very humbly to the sometimes annoyance girls I'm with , but its funny to see the change in treatment I get from strangers (women especially) when they first judge me, and then they see a hot girl on my arm, and then it's all smiles and deference.

"A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king."

I've seen this. It's often the kind of woman who has a bunch of Beta Orbiter minions and one Alpha she orbits around. Women like this used to pull off this routine unnoticed, but Facebook and its comments section have exposed them (I wonder how much other unpleasant stuff about human nature FB has unintentionally revealed).

What troubles me is that the Beta Orbiters don't seem to realize what they're doing...even when they've all made comments in succession under one Facebook posting. Here is an example taken verbatim from the page of a woman I know:

WOMAN: Refrigerator raid commencing in 5...4...3...2...

BETA 1: Wow, you're up late.
BETA 2: Oh no you Didn't?
BETA 3: Lol. Good morning beautiful.

I've long stopped posting anything on FB, but now use to solely to observe human nature. In other words, I'm thinking less and less of humans every day.

It is indeed amusing to watch the betas behaving on Facebook. I was talking to one "upper class" indian chick, she came from a rich family, went to the best schools, and was ultra-westernized, and the shit-tests were fucking nonstop with that bitch. I watch how she posts all these conspiracy and hippie types of articles on her Facebook page, and how the beta orbiters, both Indian men and western men, comment on them. It's cringe-worthy and an example of what NOT to do with women.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Married biological parents have the least likelihood for violence (against women as well as children):

   

   

(Just realized that they use the exact same statistics. Fuck it. It stays)

Generally the riskiest thing for a woman is constant carousel riding with strange men and (real) bad boys. Most PUA guys and Players might be assholes at the most, but ultimately good guys.

But the more you fuck around the more chance you will have to meet one of the real psychopaths and full Dark Triad guys that will let you 'gina tingle as well way more. Nevermind if you continue doing it when with child - then shit really hits the fan.

[boywonder34]

I'll make sure to quote the article next time.

I just can't believe there are some people who are so out of touch with reality. Its quite cute that they think men have not changed over the past 50 years; that men have not cottoned on to the fact that no, marriage no longer is what is was.

I guess the author does not realise that marriage for men now consists of the man bending over, spreading his cheeks and taking a massive reaming in the form of divorce cash and prizes and lost custody of children.

"...For women, part of the story is about what social scientists call a “selection effect,” namely, women in healthy, safe relationships are more likely to select into marriage, and women in unhealthy, unsafe relationships often lack the power to demand marriage or the desire to marry...."

Am I going to go to hell for suggesting this is a 'feature' of nature?

Mentally healthy and well adjusted women are more likely to enter into a healthy and safe relationship. They will more likely go on to produce children who are loved and kept safe from abuse.

Damaged women who have had their souls ravaged by many cocks on the carousel are more likely to enter unhealthy and unsafe relationships. They will tend to go on to produce children who are abused or even killed, hence ending her genetic legacy. I'm not supporting or endorsing violence against anyone, I'm just calling it how I see it.

"...women in unhealthy, unsafe relationships often lack the power to demand marriage..." - well -of course-! A woman who has been riding the carousel is in no position to 'demand' (lol) marriage and is incapable of giving and receiving love.

I don't know if this is confirmation bias, but ever since learning about red pill, game, masculinity, I'm seeing more evidence in media that yea, red pill is truth, why can't the rest of the world see it?

[CRR]

(06-14-2014 08:45 AM)boycottamericanwomen Wrote:  

(06-14-2014 06:43 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(06-14-2014 06:16 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Quote:

Yes, women are basically incapable of seeing men as human beings who have minds of their own. In a woman's mind, she sees men merely as tools to serve her, and that is men's entire function, to serve her. This incredibly selfish mentality is strongest in western women, but it is basic female nature, and so it is there in all women, worldwide, to a greater or lesser degree.

I disagree. Women are fully capable of seeing men as human beings. I have met women who are how you describe in America and in Eastern Europe. But, I've also been with and met women who understand nature and see men as more than just "a tool to serve her."

A confusing thing for guys is a high status, sexy, woman see's the vast majority of men as simply background noise. When this type of girl talks about "men" she is talking only about the guys who she has fucked, would fuck, or is currently fucking.

This dynamic has been talked about before, but having experienced it myself, I feel somewhat qualified on this subject. A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king. I'm having trouble explaining this, but there are girls in the world, (mostly non-western) who aren't angry they've been born women and see it as a matter of course to do womanly things and please their man.

I just don't think women see every guy as a tool to serve her. It's ingrained in a woman's head to serve someone more powerful than herself.

I will say that women are far more brutal than men in their actions to those they "perceive" to be of less status.

I enjoy dressing very humbly to the sometimes annoyance girls I'm with , but its funny to see the change in treatment I get from strangers (women especially) when they first judge me, and then they see a hot girl on my arm, and then it's all smiles and deference.

"A girl who might treat others like a bitch may have a "hero" in her life who she serves and treats like a king."

I've seen this. It's often the kind of woman who has a bunch of Beta Orbiter minions and one Alpha she orbits around. Women like this used to pull off this routine unnoticed, but Facebook and its comments section have exposed them (I wonder how much other unpleasant stuff about human nature FB has unintentionally revealed).

What troubles me is that the Beta Orbiters don't seem to realize what they're doing...even when they've all made comments in succession under one Facebook posting. Here is an example taken verbatim from the page of a woman I know:

WOMAN: Refrigerator raid commencing in 5...4...3...2...

BETA 1: Wow, you're up late.
BETA 2: Oh no you Didn't?
BETA 3: Lol. Good morning beautiful.

I've long stopped posting anything on FB, but now use to solely to observe human nature. In other words, I'm thinking less and less of humans every day.

It is indeed amusing to watch the betas behaving on Facebook. I was talking to one "upper class" indian chick, she came from a rich family, went to the best schools, and was ultra-westernized, and the shit-tests were fucking nonstop with that bitch. I watch how she posts all these conspiracy and hippie types of articles on her Facebook page, and how the beta orbiters, both Indian men and western men, comment on them. It's cringe-worthy and an example of what NOT to do with women.

Also agree with this.

Along with the narcissism and humblebragging*, the number of beta losers who immediately reply to any reasonably attractive woman's cry for attention is pathetic.

The original article speaks truth in the sense that it refutes the feminist promise that women can have whatever they want. I think some sleep around and think it's ok, others are entitled to only settle down with The Perfect Guy (who doesn't exist).

The problem with this is:

1) Then you are a single mother, which makes it much harder to find a mate.

2) Whereas men (so long as they stay in shape and keep their career going in the right direction) can still consistently bang women as they get older, many women crash into the wall by their early 30s. A lot of younger women are actually attracted to older guys, the reverse simply isn't true despite what feminism likes to tell everyone.

That's the result of teaching women beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. And that cougars are sexy.

*a woman I used to sleep with is the worst humble bragger. Funny thing is while she seems so happy on social media, she's really the most whiny, depressed person I know.

[AnonymousBosch]

(06-14-2014 10:42 AM)CRR Wrote:  

many women crash into the wall by their early 30s.

As an older board member, I have seen every heart-stopping youthful beauty I've ever known decay and fade. All the girls I went to school with. All the girls I've crossed paths with over the years. Even random beauties I've noticed on and off around town over the years that I never had the chance to made a move on. They all wither.

For the majority of women: 29. On the dot. Their former beauty has simply faded too much for you not to notice how that each day, they're lesser than they once were. 29 has always been the tipping point, to the extent when people were discussing Mila Kunis the other day I noticed she'd passed it since I'd last paid attention to her (30).

Sure, you could still call some 'beautiful', but there's always an unspoken qualifier in your mind: "...for her age." I've never seen a case where a woman's beauty has ever increased with age. Everything she does to look beautiful is simply a matter of damage control.

A girl who is still single at 29 as she hits the wall is made even more unattractive by the aura of hardness and bitterness that forms around her.

They have a window to lock down what they want from life. If they're too arrogant to capitalise on it, that's their fault.

[boycottamericanwomen]

(06-14-2014 05:02 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-14-2014 10:42 AM)CRR Wrote:  

many women crash into the wall by their early 30s.

As an older board member, I have seen every heart-stopping youthful beauty I've ever known decay and fade. All the girls I went to school with. All the girls I've crossed paths with over the years. Even random beauties I've noticed on and off around town over the years that I never had the chance to made a move on. They all wither.

For the majority of women: 29. On the dot. Their former beauty has simply faded too much for you not to notice how that each day, they're lesser than they once were. 29 has always been the tipping point, to the extent when people were discussing Mila Kunis the other day I noticed she'd passed it since I'd last paid attention to her (30).

Sure, you could still call some 'beautiful', but there's always an unspoken qualifier in your mind: "...for her age." I've never seen a case where a woman's beauty has ever increased with age. Everything she does to look beautiful is simply a matter of damage control.

A girl who is still single at 29 as she hits the wall is made even more unattractive by the aura of hardness and bitterness that forms around her.

They have a window to lock down what they want from life. If they're too arrogant to capitalise on it, that's their fault.

I noticed the same. I'm almost 30 and all the hot girls from high school look like total shit now, with the exception of one.

The worst part is when they hit the wall at age 29 or 30, get fat, and then decide to become a Born-Again Slut, i mean Virgin, and join a church and become really fanatical about their churchianity.

It's blatantly obvious why they join a church. Because that's the only place left that is full of beta males and the only place left where they will have any hope in hell of finding some stupid beta provider who is willing to marry them. Pretty sad that they use "God" as an excuse to try to find a beta husband provider.

For the most part, only men are capable of becoming philosophers or spiritualists. That's why 99 percent of philosophers have been men. Women are very good at imitation, and so they will try their best to imitate such behavior and act like they are genuinely interested in religion or philosophy but in the end, they are just looking for a beta provider.

Maybe that is why male cult leaders are able to build such large harems?

http://www.returnofkings.com/19621/an-ex...eader-game

[Suits]

The take away here is that same women who make bad choices that result in getting pregnant by way of men who aren't planning on sticking around are the same women who make bad choices by willfully continuing abusive relationships.

Conclusion: We don't need feminism to end relationship abuse or save women from the financial ruin that comes with single motherhood. We just need women to stop making bad choices.