[Samseau]

(05-30-2014 08:50 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We've entered a period in which every sort of vice and perversity is praised. In fact, people are tripping over themselves to encourage and praise everything that is base and venal in our culture. The rule book is gone, gone, gone...out the window.

Western civilization is in some sort of weird interregnum period where the old ethic--based on Christianity--is dead or rapidly dying, and a new moral code has yet to fully congeal.

We're likely to endure a couple centuries of chaos and disorder before a new civilization, with a new moral base, emerges from the ashes. This is how it has always been. I know that's scant consolation for us, but such is the sting of reality.

I suppose we shouldn't grieve too much for the collapse of our civilization. Cultures have shelf-lives, and nothing lasts for ever. We should see ourselves as something like the banqueteer who sits down at the table, eats his fill, and then--when satiated--gets up and leaves, making room for the next guest at the table.

A much more likely scenerio is a strong right-wing counter-movement forms within the next 100 years or so, probably 50 years, and the persecutions of sick perverted shit begins Hitler style.

I think guys on this board underestimate just how fast political change can occur. Wiemar republic Germany went from super decadent in the 1920's to dictatorship within a span of 10 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Rep....931929.29

Quote:

The 1920s saw a remarkable cultural renaissance in Germany. During the worst phase of hyperinflation in 1923, the clubs and bars were full of speculators who spent their daily profits so they would not lose the value the following day. Berlin intellectuals responded by condemning the excesses of capitalism, and demanding revolutionary changes on the cultural scenery. Influenced by the brief cultural explosion in the Soviet Union, German literature, cinema, theatre and musical works entered a phase of great creativity. Innovative street theatre brought plays to the public, and the cabaret scene and jazz band became very popular. According to the cliché, modern young women were Americanised, wearing makeup, short hair, smoking and breaking with traditional mores. The euphoria surrounding Josephine Baker in the metropolis of Berlin for instance, where she was declared an "erotic goddess" and in many ways admired and respected, kindled further "ultramodern" sensations in the minds of the German public.[20] Art and a new type of architecture taught at "Bauhaus" schools reflected the new ideas of the time, with artists such as George Grosz being fined for defaming the military and for blasphemy.
Artists in Berlin were influenced by other contemporary progressive cultural movements, such as the Impressionist and Expressionist painters in Paris, as well as the Cubists. Likewise, American progressive architects were admired. Many of the new buildings built during this era followed a straight-lined, geometrical style. Examples of the new architecture include the Bauhaus Building by Gropius, Grosses Schauspielhaus, and the Einstein Tower.[21]

It is amazing just how poorly human nature is understood. When people snap, they go from one extreme to the other. Just wait till America goes bankrupt and the bread and circuses stop. I predict a massive right-wing takeover, most likely a military coup-d'eat. Economic activity will stop and democracy will be suspended in the name of preserving peace and stability.

[berserk]

(05-30-2014 08:41 AM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

A generation ago a man who expressed a sincere desire to have his penis cut off and inject himself with estrogen would have been thrown in a mental institution. Now it's celebrated.

Within twenty years:

NAMBLA marches for equality in Washington DC, first transgender US senator and mayor of San Francisco marries his cocker-spaniel.

You think this is unrealistic but it isn't. In the 60s and 70s there were several prominent figures of the left who included pedophilia in their 'fight'. More than a few early prominent LGBT(?) figures were pedophiles themselves.

The radical left embraced pedophilia then and they will do it again once there are no other sexual boundaries to break.

[Quintus Curtius]

(05-31-2014 07:04 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 08:50 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We've entered a period in which every sort of vice and perversity is praised. In fact, people are tripping over themselves to encourage and praise everything that is base and venal in our culture. The rule book is gone, gone, gone...out the window.

Western civilization is in some sort of weird interregnum period where the old ethic--based on Christianity--is dead or rapidly dying, and a new moral code has yet to fully congeal.

We're likely to endure a couple centuries of chaos and disorder before a new civilization, with a new moral base, emerges from the ashes. This is how it has always been. I know that's scant consolation for us, but such is the sting of reality.

I suppose we shouldn't grieve too much for the collapse of our civilization. Cultures have shelf-lives, and nothing lasts for ever. We should see ourselves as something like the banqueteer who sits down at the table, eats his fill, and then--when satiated--gets up and leaves, making room for the next guest at the table.

A much more likely scenerio is a strong right-wing counter-movement forms within the next 100 years or so, probably 50 years, and the persecutions of sick perverted shit begins Hitler style.

I think guys on this board underestimate just how fast political change can occur. Wiemar republic Germany went from super decadent in the 1920's to dictatorship within a span of 10 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Rep....931929.29

Quote:

The 1920s saw a remarkable cultural renaissance in Germany. During the worst phase of hyperinflation in 1923, the clubs and bars were full of speculators who spent their daily profits so they would not lose the value the following day. Berlin intellectuals responded by condemning the excesses of capitalism, and demanding revolutionary changes on the cultural scenery. Influenced by the brief cultural explosion in the Soviet Union, German literature, cinema, theatre and musical works entered a phase of great creativity. Innovative street theatre brought plays to the public, and the cabaret scene and jazz band became very popular. According to the cliché, modern young women were Americanised, wearing makeup, short hair, smoking and breaking with traditional mores. The euphoria surrounding Josephine Baker in the metropolis of Berlin for instance, where she was declared an "erotic goddess" and in many ways admired and respected, kindled further "ultramodern" sensations in the minds of the German public.[20] Art and a new type of architecture taught at "Bauhaus" schools reflected the new ideas of the time, with artists such as George Grosz being fined for defaming the military and for blasphemy.
Artists in Berlin were influenced by other contemporary progressive cultural movements, such as the Impressionist and Expressionist painters in Paris, as well as the Cubists. Likewise, American progressive architects were admired. Many of the new buildings built during this era followed a straight-lined, geometrical style. Examples of the new architecture include the Bauhaus Building by Gropius, Grosses Schauspielhaus, and the Einstein Tower.[21]

It is amazing just how poorly human nature is understood. When people snap, they go from one extreme to the other. Just wait till America goes bankrupt and the bread and circuses stop. I predict a massive right-wing takeover, most likely a military coup-d'eat. Economic activity will stop and democracy will be suspended in the name of preserving peace and stability.

Yes, this is likely in the short term, absolutely. In the short term, there will be authoritarian rulers or military dictators who will try frantically to hold the rotting carcass together.

I'm reminded of Diocletian's reforms that added some time to Rome's lease on life, as well as the despotism of Septimus Severus.

But long term will still be continued decline, as the exhausted body politic here slips further and further into poverty and ignorance. Nothing will be able to prop up the rotting timbers of our bankrupt culture. The new barbarians (illegal immigrants and the dregs of domestic society) will multiply from within, as the native stock becomes more and more marginalized.

Luckily we'll all be dead by then. (Or will we?)

[Blackhawk]

The problem with generational based movements is they die out with that generation. America is leftist today because of the baby boom --which is now in their 60s and 70s. When they die off, the younger generations that spent their lives fighting against baby boom policies will step into the vaccuum, whipsawing the country the other way for the next 3 generations.

And then we'll get another baby boom equivalent again. It's a regular 4 generation cycle all counter - reacting to what came before, if you believe the book Generations and their theories.

[NovaVirtu]

(05-31-2014 08:07 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Yes, this is likely in the short term, absolutely. In the short term, there will be authoritarian rulers or military dictators who will try frantically to hold the rotting carcass together.

I'm reminded of Diocletian's reforms that added some time to Rome's lease on life, as well as the despotism of Septimus Severus.

But long term will still be continued decline, as the exhausted body politic here slips further and further into poverty and ignorance. Nothing will be able to prop up the rotting timbers of our bankrupt culture. The new barbarians (illegal immigrants and the dregs of domestic society) will multiply from within, as the native stock becomes more and more marginalized.

Luckily we'll all be dead by then. (Or will we?)

If you're referring to illegal immigrants from latin america, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to an increased Latinization of US culture if it meant a decline in privileged SWPL buffoonery.

[El Chinito loco]

(05-31-2014 12:01 PM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 08:07 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Yes, this is likely in the short term, absolutely. In the short term, there will be authoritarian rulers or military dictators who will try frantically to hold the rotting carcass together.

I'm reminded of Diocletian's reforms that added some time to Rome's lease on life, as well as the despotism of Septimus Severus.

But long term will still be continued decline, as the exhausted body politic here slips further and further into poverty and ignorance. Nothing will be able to prop up the rotting timbers of our bankrupt culture. The new barbarians (illegal immigrants and the dregs of domestic society) will multiply from within, as the native stock becomes more and more marginalized.

Luckily we'll all be dead by then. (Or will we?)

If you're referring to illegal immigrants from latin america, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to an increased Latinization of US culture if it meant a decline in privileged SWPL buffoonery.

The future of North America is that of South America which is brutally ironic. It's inevitable really.

[berserk]

(05-31-2014 12:01 PM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 08:07 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Yes, this is likely in the short term, absolutely. In the short term, there will be authoritarian rulers or military dictators who will try frantically to hold the rotting carcass together.

I'm reminded of Diocletian's reforms that added some time to Rome's lease on life, as well as the despotism of Septimus Severus.

But long term will still be continued decline, as the exhausted body politic here slips further and further into poverty and ignorance. Nothing will be able to prop up the rotting timbers of our bankrupt culture. The new barbarians (illegal immigrants and the dregs of domestic society) will multiply from within, as the native stock becomes more and more marginalized.

Luckily we'll all be dead by then. (Or will we?)

If you're referring to illegal immigrants from latin america, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to an increased Latinization of US culture if it meant a decline in privileged SWPL buffoonery.

It's all big booty latinas and fun and games until your kids need armed escorts on their way to school or when drug dealers are better armed than the military, then it's not so fun.

[El Chinito loco]

(05-31-2014 12:24 PM)berserk Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 12:01 PM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 08:07 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Yes, this is likely in the short term, absolutely. In the short term, there will be authoritarian rulers or military dictators who will try frantically to hold the rotting carcass together.

I'm reminded of Diocletian's reforms that added some time to Rome's lease on life, as well as the despotism of Septimus Severus.

But long term will still be continued decline, as the exhausted body politic here slips further and further into poverty and ignorance. Nothing will be able to prop up the rotting timbers of our bankrupt culture. The new barbarians (illegal immigrants and the dregs of domestic society) will multiply from within, as the native stock becomes more and more marginalized.

Luckily we'll all be dead by then. (Or will we?)

If you're referring to illegal immigrants from latin america, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to an increased Latinization of US culture if it meant a decline in privileged SWPL buffoonery.

It's all big booty latinas and fun and games until your kids need armed escorts on their way to school or when drug dealers are better armed than the military, then it's not so fun.

I like latin people but if North America is taken over by Chicanos you can expect the whole country to resemble Folsom or San Quentin.

[Samseau]

(05-31-2014 08:07 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Yes, this is likely in the short term, absolutely. In the short term, there will be authoritarian rulers or military dictators who will try frantically to hold the rotting carcass together.

I'm reminded of Diocletian's reforms that added some time to Rome's lease on life, as well as the despotism of Septimus Severus.

But long term will still be continued decline, as the exhausted body politic here slips further and further into poverty and ignorance. Nothing will be able to prop up the rotting timbers of our bankrupt culture. The new barbarians (illegal immigrants and the dregs of domestic society) will multiply from within, as the native stock becomes more and more marginalized.

Luckily we'll all be dead by then. (Or will we?)

The clincher is that the right-wing in America is just as ignorant as the left-wing, but in different ways. Whereas the left denies human nature, the right denies the importance of education.

The left is all about education and brainwashing, whereas the right merely wants to rule with brute force and let people do what they want (a mistake). Both the left and the right will allow women the agency to continue their destruction of America from within.

Remember, Sparta was essentially a super right-wing military state - and it died because Spartan men pedestalized their women and let women run the show. They failed to keep reproduction rates high and were eventually conquered by the Thebians who had far superior numbers.

So no matter who rules America, left or right, both continue the pussy worship and denigration of man within the family.

Still, there may be hope. If the right take over America, shut down immigration, take away women's right to vote, you could see a serious revival of American culture for at least another 100 years. However, even in this situation, the right will probably ignore the importance of education and let the children be raised by schools (a mistake) and creditialism instead of emphasizing self-sufficiency within families and home-schooling.

Schools are toxic to the creation of large families, and schools corrupt young women into slutting it up at young ages which sets them on the path to sluthood and poor family formation.

So ultimately I don't see the right restoring America's greatness, because the vast majority of right-wing leaders in America are unable to identify the true cause of America's decline (the decline of families and education of children).

[soup]

"So ultimately I don't see the right restoring America's greatness, because the vast majority of right-wing leaders in America are unable to identify the true cause of America's decline (the decline of families and education of children)."

Are you saying the cause is decline of children getting educated or kids getting educated?

[Samseau]

(05-31-2014 12:54 PM)soup Wrote:  

"So ultimately I don't see the right restoring America's greatness, because the vast majority of right-wing leaders in America are unable to identify the true cause of America's decline (the decline of families and education of children)."

Are you saying the cause is decline of children getting educated or kids getting educated?

Girls, specifically. Rather than have girls learn how to be good wives and have children young, they go into career mode and spend their most fertile years acquiring worthless degrees and being programmed to worship money.

But even for boys, I do not believe there is much value in public education until high school, at a bare minimum. College is perhaps the only useful educational instiution in existence. Most people cannot remember what they learned in grade school beyond the basics:

- Reading
- Writing
- Arithmetic

Grade school is nothing more than a glorified daycare center, where children learn how to be evil towards one another. Boys who do not want to be in school, or do not belong in school, are forced to undergo social torture while girls are trained on how to be manipulative towards others in an effort to win approval from the group.

This isn't the first time education has been popular. It was popular during the heights of Athenian or Roman aristocracy, and it had the same effects: endless hedonism, childlessness, and manipulation of others for ones gain.

[berserk]

Samseu, do you think cultural imperalism from the east might play a factor in the future?

Like how everyone became an American post-ww2 and it had a lot of positive effects on countries like Japan and Korea economically speaking at least?

I'm thinking that "Chinese" culture is too far from western to be exported in the same way, but I could easily see Russian culture being exported to western europe. There is already a growing sympathy for Putin and lots of guy have now been on stag parties to eastern europe and seen a different version of life.

USA will of course never be influenced culturally by Russia, but Europe is another matter. The question is if Putin is strictly focused on the eastern bloc.

[Constitution45]

Modern Western culture is simply unsustainable, and by looking at the recent election results in Europe, the tide is already turning. It may spread to Eastern Europe or Russia before it collapses, its a hard one to call. Putin is against social revolution, and is aware of how social cohesion works; hence why he is supporting the revival of the Othordox church. However my prediction is that the European Union and other such bodies, will be vamping up mass immigration, feminism the whole "progressive" batch, due to the recent election results, that showed a tide is turning.

Coming back to the United Kingdom, I can tell you that people are too far gone. British men, even from the traditionally working class areas, are opting for the pretty boy beta look. Which of course the masculine British women couldn't care less for. Foreign men from male dominated cultures have access to the sexual market place, because they don't care for political correct facades. In a Neo liberal fantasy world, where nations are simply airstrips and places to plant shopping malls, this is not a problem. However when you look at the cyclical nature of history, you see that societal cohesion is a real thing. Family, national identity, culture have to be homogenous, otherwise you will see fragmentation, segregation or an eventual master and slave type situation.

China is an interesting one, as I can see them going through their own 1968 cultural revolution, however at the same time, their population is so infinite, that they won't be affected by the demographic fall out which we are seeing in Western Europe, for at least another 100 or so years. Russia has always been on the front lines of invasion and social strife, they don't have the time for passive aggressive politics and slogans for "progression". Although they are still far away, from being a traditional country in the fullest sense. Point is times are hard in Russia, outside of Moscow. If they completely subscribed to the sexual liberalisation which tore apart the black communities in America, then they would be finished.

It comes down to weakness and strength, these are portrayed as old fashion concepts, but the feminine attitude of being fair, trying your best and then falling back when the going gets too tough. Is simply incompatible with the real world. Even for the individual, I see those who adopt politically correct attitudes and a "liberal mindset" just look completely destroyed by the time they turn 22 years old. The men are just like puppies and the women are just bitter and contorted. I will try to leave out my personal anecdotes but i think we have all witnessed this. So what happens when a nation is made up of a collective mindset such as this.

[assman]

(05-31-2014 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

However, even in this situation, the right will probably ignore the importance of education and let the children be raised by schools (a mistake) and creditialism instead of emphasizing self-sufficiency within families and home-schooling.

I don't think you can generalize the right wing this way. I know a LOT of right wing and libertarian folks who are into home schooling.

That may not be heavily reflected at the leadership levels, but I've seen plenty of Tea Party politicians defend home schooling.

[Samseau]

(06-01-2014 07:38 AM)assman Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

However, even in this situation, the right will probably ignore the importance of education and let the children be raised by schools (a mistake) and creditialism instead of emphasizing self-sufficiency within families and home-schooling.

I don't think you can generalize the right wing this way. I know a LOT of right wing and libertarian folks who are into home schooling.

That may not be heavily reflected at the leadership levels, but I've seen plenty of Tea Party politicians defend home schooling.

Yeah, but it's the leadership levels that matter.

[assman]

(06-01-2014 07:44 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 07:38 AM)assman Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

However, even in this situation, the right will probably ignore the importance of education and let the children be raised by schools (a mistake) and creditialism instead of emphasizing self-sufficiency within families and home-schooling.

I don't think you can generalize the right wing this way. I know a LOT of right wing and libertarian folks who are into home schooling.

That may not be heavily reflected at the leadership levels, but I've seen plenty of Tea Party politicians defend home schooling.

Yeah, but it's the leadership levels that matter.

In an unarmed society that collapses, I'd agree with you. Fortunately that is not the case in America. When the US government goes bankrupt and law and order breaks down, the armed citizenry will play a role in what happens next.

[Samseau]

(06-01-2014 07:46 AM)assman Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 07:44 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 07:38 AM)assman Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

However, even in this situation, the right will probably ignore the importance of education and let the children be raised by schools (a mistake) and creditialism instead of emphasizing self-sufficiency within families and home-schooling.

I don't think you can generalize the right wing this way. I know a LOT of right wing and libertarian folks who are into home schooling.

That may not be heavily reflected at the leadership levels, but I've seen plenty of Tea Party politicians defend home schooling.

Yeah, but it's the leadership levels that matter.

In an unarmed society that collapses, I'd agree with you. Fortunately that is not the case in America. When the US government goes bankrupt and law and order breaks down, the armed citizenry will play a role in what happens next.

To be sure an armed citizenry makes things difficult for the Federal government but not if they still have a powerful military. Overall I think you may be right but there are still two major unknowns.

One, is that even in a post-bankruptcy environment I suspect the remaining American wealth will still be concentrated in left-wing hands.

Two, is that the military will be mostly right-wing but without money can they sustain themselves? If the military is smart and takes over a few big NYC banks before the left can mobilize, they may be able to sustain a revolution.

[soup]

I think you are going to extreme in the education thing.

I agree that they need to change up what is taught in schools, but you can't have college if you don't have the fundamentals and more down.

I learned a shit ton of useful info in my pre college years.

That said, the system is changed now and they are putting way too much emphasis on teaching kids how to take tests.

I do think they need to focus on more practical things in education. They need to prepare kids to go out and deal with their finances, the opposite sex, etc., and I think they should also make kids choose some kind of major so that they know what's it's like to have a deep involvement with an activity. Kids need to be more aware of the forces that control our world. They should teach about how religion evolved.

They should also teach girls the value of being feminine and not shun it. Instead of trying to make everybody the same, they should celebrate people's differences. If some girls want to act more masculine,that's fine but the system shouldn't try to impose that on all the other girls.

Unfortunately, game will never be sanctioned by any public system, so boys will have to seek it out on their own. That's ok though, because there's so much info out there already and the popularity of places this is only going to increase.

[Dusty]

Saw this on National Review. Apparently Kevin Williamson wrote an article that wash;t positive about transgenderism, and received a lot of criticism. He wrote this in response and has a some interesting points.

Quote:

Rage, Rhetoric, and Reform
By Kevin D. Williamson
June 2, 2014 12:34 AM

Some of you will have noticed that my observations on the subject of transgenderism/transsexualism have not been met with universal approval, especially among transsexuals. No surprise there.

The responses came in predictable forms, mostly juvenile profanity. But there was a bit more. The Telegraph’s Tom Chivers (a guy called Tom?) offered a response under the question-begging headline: “Whether or not Laverne Cox is a woman is not a question of biology; it’s a question of language.” (I assume that Mr. Chivers, like most columnists, does not compose his own headlines, but it is an accurate summation of his argument.) That is, of course, precisely the magical belief that I was arguing against; the question of whether somebody is a woman is a biological question, one that demands a biological answer.

Amanda Marcotte, a world-champion misser of points, demanded to know: “How are you harmed by other people being allowed to self-determine gender?” Framing the question in Millsian harm-principle terms would present a perfectly reasonable challenge to a libertarian such as myself if, for example, I were calling for the government to ban sex-reassignment surgery or related hormone therapies. A reader at all familiar with my work would know that waiting on me to call on the government to ban much of anything short of violence or theft is a rather long-term assignment. I have not called for so-called sex-reassignment procedures to be banned, neither in this most recent article or in my earlier and more detailed argument about the matter of Bradley Manning. Perhaps it has not occurred to Miss Marcotte that my concern about a program of genital amputation in the service of a metaphysical theory stems not from any harm I expect to suffer myself but from harm that I do not wish to see visited upon other people. In this I am hardly alone.

The content of the responses on Twitter and elsewhere was a useful reminder that the Left, including its sexual-liberationist faction, is inarguably totalitarian. Critics suggested not only that I be fired for my views but that I should be prosecuted for them, and that the government should ensure that such views are not published. Live-and-let-live is not the Left’s way, never has been, and never will be. It is not sufficient that transsexuals should be free to act on their delusions — the rest of us are expected to participate in them with unreserved enthusiasm, and the Left is willing to use the state to compel us to do so. To simply believe otherwise and to share those views in print is in the minds of many on the Left not only a social transgression but something that should be a crime. The belief that members of minority political tendencies should be jailed for their views is very much in vogue for the Left at the moment. Democrats in the Senate are seeking to repeal the First Amendment. All of us — conservatives and whatever traditional liberals there still may be on the left side of the spectrum — should fully appreciate the sobering fact that there is a nascent, popular, authoritarian movement among members of the Left that supports everything from censorship to literal, non-metaphorical gulags in which to imprison people for their political beliefs.

A second, considerably less important, question here involves the limitations of my own preferences for a radically expanded kind of liberty. As I noted above, I am not calling for the government to abolish sex-reassignment procedures, but I do believe that such procedures should be discouraged, especially by medical associations. My preferred model for professional licensure, including that of physicians, is through competing professional associations rather than through government monopolies, and I believe that this would, on balance, produce much better results than does the current model. I would be perfectly happy with a medical association’s deciding that those who perform such procedures cannot operate under its aegis, forcing such physicians to seek credentialing elsewhere.

While I believe that this model would be superior, I do not suffer from utopian delusions, and I suspect that most medical associations would continue to sanction such procedures — not out of crass economic self-interest, but because the cultural pressure to do so would be, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, very strong. On the other hand, the significant minority of physicians who believe such procedures to be mutilation rather than therapy would at least have the option of disassociating themselves from it professionally. In that, this is rather like my argument that in a private-contract model, what we call traditional marriage would at least have something of a fighting chance, which it does not under a government-monopoly model of marriage. If we conservatives are right that our models of family and community life actually are better in meaningful ways, then competition should make that clear over time.

[soup]

All of this tranny talk lately.. It feels like someone roofies the forum with transjuice.

[agentaika]

I wouldn't even care about trannies if they weren't fighting so hard to re-write the biology books, perpetrate the myth that sex and gender are "social constructs", and, worse of all, try to stealtily fuck straight men. They're a small but very loud political minority, and their liberal and feminist allies are paving the way for more crap like this to become mainstream.

[assman]

(06-02-2014 03:55 AM)agentaika Wrote:  

I wouldn't even care about trannies if they weren't fighting so hard to re-write the biology books, perpetrate the myth that sex and gender are "social constructs", and, worse of all, try to stealtily fuck straight men. They're a small but very loud political minority, and their liberal and feminist allies are paving the way for more crap like this to become mainstream.

Holy crap. After clicking on the links in that article, I think in a couple of years, we'll need a thread on how to spot post-op shemales in the US.

[kosko]

(06-01-2014 07:46 AM)assman Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 07:44 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 07:38 AM)assman Wrote:  

(05-31-2014 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

However, even in this situation, the right will probably ignore the importance of education and let the children be raised by schools (a mistake) and creditialism instead of emphasizing self-sufficiency within families and home-schooling.

I don't think you can generalize the right wing this way. I know a LOT of right wing and libertarian folks who are into home schooling.

That may not be heavily reflected at the leadership levels, but I've seen plenty of Tea Party politicians defend home schooling.

Yeah, but it's the leadership levels that matter.

In an unarmed society that collapses, I'd agree with you. Fortunately that is not the case in America. When the US government goes bankrupt and law and order breaks down, the armed citizenry will play a role in what happens next.

This is true. But then you would also see what extent your tax dollars spent on military expenditures went towards when the Army boots are in the streets.

The USA army was never built to its current levels to fight any foreign enemy. It's biggest battle is largely seen as the impeding civil war that will eventually happen in America when SHTF.

Half the forces wouldn't fire on their own and would cross lines, the other half whom just got into it for a paycheck to begin with, wouldn't give two shits.

I feel the people win out. But with more and more people drinking blue pill kool aid the amount of people whom would push back is getting smaller each day.

[eradicator]

(06-02-2014 05:32 AM)assman Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 03:55 AM)agentaika Wrote:  

I wouldn't even care about trannies if they weren't fighting so hard to re-write the biology books, perpetrate the myth that sex and gender are "social constructs", and, worse of all, try to stealtily fuck straight men. They're a small but very loud political minority, and their liberal and feminist allies are paving the way for more crap like this to become mainstream.

Holy crap. After clicking on the links in that article, I think in a couple of years, we'll need a thread on how to spot post-op shemales in the US.

Funny you mention this. The most common technique is to picture the person with no hair on their head.

I got fooled last week by a hermaphrodite(I can show you pics) and was annoyed. S/he fessed up on the phone before we met up and said "just so you know, before we make any plans to meet up, I am a hermaphrodite, is that something that interests you?" I just said "no that is something you should state up front on your okcupid profile". Most trannies state it somewhere on their profile, and sadly a lot of them are thinner than actual females here in the usa, so it can get confusing.

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The finale of a reality TV show hosted in the UK on channel 4 a good few years back. A group of men competing for £10,000 and a holiday with the "woman".

The aftermath of the show.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/oc...oadcasting

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/lawsu...k-2296.php