[Jason-]

Hello fellas

Me and my buddies are planning to go in South Korea in July and we are wondering how easy is to get the flag? We are currently living in Thailand which is the easiest flag to get and we are Greeks. I'm half greek half thai tho and tanned so i know it is gonna be more difficult for me to get the flag.

I'm 18 years old and my buddies are 31 and 34. 31 is a good player got many flags because of the greek islands tourism and the other is meh. I'm pretty good too but not as good as the 31.

We gonna stay in Seoul 4 days and 6 days in Busan. Anyway what's making it so difficult to game Koreans and what are our chances being tanned from Thailands sun?

[DoomsdayIlluztrious]

I lived in Korea for one year and traveled around the peninsula extensively.

I'd say your chances of scoring will be pretty high in both places but Busan should be more fun as it's a beach town and the people are more chill. Enjoy!

[LeightonBlackstock]

I can't speak for Seoul as I didn't spend enough time there. Many have attested to Itaewon and Hongdae. My plan is to live there one day and give it a good go. Certainly potential in Seoul.

I can speak for second-tier/third-tier Korea though. I lived in Ulsan for seven months and made trips to Busan on the weekends

I'm going to give you the honest answer, and I'm probably going to be attacked, but so be it: For such a short trip, there's no chance in Busan without the stars aligning.

If you go to the 'proper' Korean clubs in Busan, one of two things will happen:

a) You'll get turned away for having a 'white face' (Me and my wing dress very well and are good-looking and it happened to us more than once)
b) You'll get in the club and will be seen as an IRT. Korean girls won't be seen dead talking to you (even if they like you)

Korea is not Thailand. There is a negative exotic capital there and it becomes apparent over time (when the 'new country' feeling has worn off)

Even the foreigner-friendly places with supposed 'groupies' are few and far between, with embellished reports.

My wing and I had a huge list of all the places recommended to pull Korean girls (Soultrane/Foxy/Blue Monkey/Fix/Gecko's/ThursdayParty...)

We knocked these places off the list one-by-one, over several visits. I remember one Saturday night we walked to one club. Saw there were no girls. Got a taxi to another. Saw there were no girls, then got a taxi to another. Then went home. (We may have actually been to about five places that night).

Busan never showed any potential to either of us (us being two game-aware guys that pull like crazy in Taiwan and Glasgow respectively)

Online game is the route to go down if you're down South. Or Day game. Me and my friend would always comment how there were many people walking around, but the clubs were always empty as hell.

Also, for all the hate he gets, Dash Global is spot on about Korea. I recommend his threads to anyone planning a visit.

[Ethan Amarante]

Having spent the best part of 6 months with Leighton in Korea, I unequivocally agree with what he said about Busan.

I spent a little more time than Leighton in Seoul, though, and would highly recommend spending as much time as possible there, rather than Busan. You may be able to get a ONL with a Korean there if you invest as much energy as possible.

Avoiding the mainsteam clubs should allow you to focus on the alternative crowd who tend to be more liberal in their attitude to casual sex. Don’t mistake the hip hop clubs for being alternative, though. I’m talking much more about rock and hipstery venues; these are the places which attract young Koreans who reject the homogenous youth culture.

I’m tempted to suggest individual venues in Hongdae and Itaewon but you’re probably a lot better off seeing if you can find special events, of which there are often many. FF, Platoon and Shindig, for example, are fairly good when special events are running. They can be shockingly bad on quiet nights, though, I warn you.

Paying cheap foreigner bars a visit or two is an almost sure-fire way of getting one night lays with Westerners, if you are into that. Gold Bar is probably your best bet in that regard.

P.S. I could write about this topic for a hell of a long time, and to give a full explanation would mean delving into Korean culture and history, but that's for another time. The simple message is this - dressing well will pay even greater dividends in Korea than anywhere else I've been, but you need to tailor your outfits well to where you are. If you're at a hipstery place, for example, wearing a vintage leather jacket will get you approached by people with fashion blogs, and elevate your value enormously, particularly if you can give some bullshit story of 'what inspired you' or whatever. Go somewhere expensive in Gangnam and you'll do well in a cheap polyester three-piece, however.

[DoomsdayIlluztrious]

Whoa, we can't be talking about the same city. In my year in Korea I think I visited Busan maybe 4 or 5 times for 4 day weekends. One particular trip a fly Korean girl approached me as I was exiting the subway thinking I was a basketball player, didn't even make it out to the club that evening. Another trip a friend and I grabbed some hotwings and were posted up outside some club on the coast. This group of Russian Koreans (Korean in appearance but only speak Russian, very weird) swarmed us.

I'm not doubting your experiences but from what I saw, white guys KILL in Korea, much more so than black guys. In Seoul, I would only pull in hip-hop clubs like NB2, etc. Granted there's like 1,000 people inside so I was eating pretty good, but nothing like my fellow white service members.

[LeightonBlackstock]

Doomsday, out of curiosity, what year were you there?

I have heard that Korea was excellent ten years ago and much like you've described

But I never saw anything to suggest that any white man was doing well there. I would go as far as saying that in the city of Ulsan, there were only about two or three guys that had even banged a Korean (myself included).

But to stress, I didn't live in Seoul and have always maintained that I want to go back there in order to give Korea a fair overall report.

[Ethan Amarante]

(05-26-2014 11:19 AM)DoomsdayIlluztrious Wrote:  

Whoa, we can't be talking about the same city. In my year in Korea I think I visited Busan maybe 4 or 5 times for 4 day weekends. One particular trip a fly Korean girl approached me as I was exiting the subway thinking I was a basketball player, didn't even make it out to the club that evening. Another trip a friend and I grabbed some hotwings and were posted up outside some club on the coast. This group of Russian Koreans (Korean in appearance but only speak Russian, very weird) swarmed us.

I'm not doubting your experiences but from what I saw, white guys KILL in Korea, much more so than black guys. In Seoul, I would only pull in hip-hop clubs like NB2, etc. Granted there's like 1,000 people inside so I was eating pretty good, but nothing like my fellow white service members.

You must have done well. I would say that ethnic Koreans from post-Soviet states ("Koryo-saram") are culturally completely different from actual Koreans, though, just as ethic Koreans from the USA are culturally Western, by and large.

NB2 was definitely one of the better hip-hop clubs IMO, but to me those places really occupy a mid-point between mainsteam and truely alternative places. Bear in mind that Korean hip-hop is popular over there but K-rock isn't.

Oh, and on an unrelated note - don't be misled by how often people call you 'handsome' because it means nothing and all Westerners get called handsome all the time.

To Koreans, saying someone is "handsome" is akin to describing a painting as pleasing to look at. A painting might look good but if someone was fucking one, eyebrows would be raised.

[Carlos100]

(05-26-2014 02:43 AM)Jason- Wrote:  

Hello fellas

Me and my buddies are planning to go in South Korea in July and we are wondering how easy is to get the flag? We are currently living in Thailand which is the easiest flag to get and we are Greeks. I'm half greek half thai tho and tanned so i know it is gonna be more difficult for me to get the flag.

I'm 18 years old and my buddies are 31 and 34. 31 is a good player got many flags because of the greek islands tourism and the other is meh. I'm pretty good too but not as good as the 31.

We gonna stay in Seoul 4 days and 6 days in Busan. Anyway what's making it so difficult to game Koreans and what are our chances being tanned from Thailands sun?

I second the suggestion that you aggressively pipeline before you get there.

[Dagnasty]

(05-26-2014 05:29 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

I second the suggestion that you aggressively pipeline before you get there.

Pipeline where?

[Global_Cocksman]

Yeah, it's relatively easy to get laid in Seoul if you're white.

I laid three K girls within my first three weeks arriving there. I met some other white dudes there that were banging new K girls every week from clubs in Gangnam and Hongdae, and some from Itaewon. (But, I should mention some of them were pretty good looking and spoke some Korean. Gangnam clubs are generally pretty hard to pull from.) Saw plenty of white guys walking around Seoul with their Korean girlfriends, a few were pretty hot.

But I pipelined before I went there, all my lays were from online. Some people find it difficult. 10 days may or may not be enough time for you. If I was you, I'd probably stick to clubs in Itaewon and do some pipelining.

There are obviously way easier countries in Asia to get laid in, but I personally love Korean girls, so I think they're worth the effort.

[Jason-]

You say that if we're white we gonna pull of but i mention that i'm mixed Thai-Greek and my friends are tanned from the thai sun . So the chances now?

[DoomsdayIlluztrious]

I was there from 2010-2011. I'm not the most pro-active guy in the world so most of my interactions were either where the girl initiated or it was a very obvious mutual attraction. Nothing special about me really, black, 6'2, average build.

But yeah, I would definitely recommend a trip to Seoul. It's not like a lot of places where you can gauge a country's worth without visiting the capital. Seoul is everything in Korea, although I still like Busan more.

(05-26-2014 11:31 AM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  

Doomsday, out of curiosity, what year were you there?

I have heard that Korea was excellent ten years ago and much like you've described

But I never saw anything to suggest that any white man was doing well there. I would go as far as saying that in the city of Ulsan, there were only about two or three guys that had even banged a Korean (myself included).

But to stress, I didn't live in Seoul and have always maintained that I want to go back there in order to give Korea a fair overall report.

[fucksong]

Hi all, sorry I know this is an old thread but by any chance, does anybody familiar with Seoul know of any cheap spas where you can sleep overnight there?

for those of you who don't know, they've got spas where you can chill out in a relaxing spa, take a shower, basically recharge and then you can sleep in this sleeping area. I'm currently in this place called Daejeon (don't come here, boring) where this spa costs $9 per overnight stay.

Thanks in advance!