[lurker]

I'm supposed to teach one of these classes soon to about 500 people. It keeps getting put off because I have real work to do, but I'll let the board know how it all goes.

[AntiTrace]

(05-19-2014 09:51 PM)lurker Wrote:  

I'm supposed to teach one of these classes soon to about 500 people. It keeps getting put off because I have real work to do, but I'll let the board know how it all goes.

dont fuck it up

[Sonsowey]

(05-19-2014 09:51 PM)lurker Wrote:  

I'm supposed to teach one of these classes soon to about 500 people. It keeps getting put off because I have real work to do, but I'll let the board know how it all goes.

You could teach an actual class about proper behavior in the workplace.

"Do not grab people's genitals at work"

"Do not force people to have sex with you under threat of firing them."

"Be polite to everyone and don't shit where you eat"

"Ok that's it folks!"

[Praetor Lupus]

(05-17-2014 11:12 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

I 100% approve and hope you don't get fired.

From my own experience, HR departments are the cysts of companies - growths that may officially be benign but cause all sorts of shit and discomfort through their bullshit.

[Cheetah]

(05-17-2014 03:46 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

HR came in to give us a class on sexual harrasment. Fun stuff. I normally have a great time in these classes, but I keep my mouth shut. That day, I couldn't.

We we read a story about a girl that is in love with a guy in a different city. She couldn't get to him because she didn't have a car. She asked a pilot to fly her there, and he kept saying no. Finally they pilot caved, and said he would do it....if she slept with him for a month first. She asked a friend what she should do, the friend told her that whatever she did he would support her. So she agreed to sleep with the pilot. He flew her out afterwards, she went to her love and told him the story. He threw her out and said don't come back. She then went to the bar and had three beers, where she met another guy. She told the guy at the bar the story, he told her she was a strong and woman that made such a sacrifice to see her love. She ended up going home with the man.

We were then asked to rate all the characters in order of best to worst.

Here were mine:

1. Pilot - Badass. Ass, grass, or gas. No one rides for free.
2. Her love - Badass. Throws whore woman out without apologies. I respect him.
3. Bar guy - Badass. Player.
4. Friend - Friend zoned. Hoping she would give it up to him. He should go become a pilot.
5. Women - Whore. Straight up prostitute.

I Liked the Pilot, Her love, and the bar guy. I didn't like the friend and the woman.

The HR chick running the class asked me to share my answers and why I picked them. She thought my answers were funny and then read the "correct" company answers.

"Correct Company Answers"
Best to Worst
1.Her love - Becuase he was honest, said he didn't approve of her actions, and then left. *This surprised me.
2. Woman - Because she was willing to do everything within her power to get to her love.
3. Her friend - While he could of done more, he was supportive of her.
4. The pilot - Manipulative
5. Bar guy - For taken advantage of her. Hes slimy and creepy.




Normally I'm calm and collected. But I kinda lost of my shit when that was read to me.

Anti - laughs out loud
HR Lady - "Is there a problem Anti?"
Anti - "Your telling me, that the woman who slept with some random guy for a month is higher on the moral ladder than a guy in a bar who actually complimented the girl?
HR Lady - "She did everything in her power to get to her love, the guy in the bar took advantage of her because she was drunk. He was being slimy and creepy."
Anti - "Everything in her power? How about paying for a fucking ticket? Or becoming a pilot? Or driving? Or walking? Or taking a bus? Or taking a train? Or asking her friend? She offered sex for a favor. If that doesn't make her a prostitute what does that make her? A whore? Or a strong, independent, driven woman? No wonder her love threw her the fuck out. She's better than the guy in the bar? The single guy that just talked to a girl in the bar and gave her a compliment? In your story he didn't drug her, feed her drinks, or force her to leave. He just gave her a compliment. But being a prostitute is better in the eyes of the company than giving a female a compliment? Fucking some random guy for compensation is ok, but talking to a girl in a bar is slimy and creepy? Get the fuck out of here. I know you didn't come up with this, some dweeb that is too highly educated for his or her own good did, but this is a fucking joke and this is why no one takes these classes seriously. I'm going to go do something productive with my time. Maybe I'll go downtown and fuck someone for a ride home, but at least wont compliment a woman.


I got up and left.

I actually ended up banging the HR chick a few days later. That was nice. But I still can't believe the shit that was peddled to me.

Assuming this scenario really was brought up at a company the 'company correct answers' can't be argued the way they did. It doesn't match up.

By saying that the guy at the bar picking her up was taking advantage of her assumes that he was lying just to get to her pants. By assuming that he was lying implies that you also think that the woman was more or less a whore. If the feminists truly thought that the woman was acting in a morally correct way the guy at the bar would just have been giving her a true and sincere compliment.

[Shortest Straw]

(01-31-2015 07:52 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Assuming this scenario really was brought up at a company the 'company correct answers' can't be argued the way they did. It doesn't match up.

By saying that the guy at the bar picking her up was taking advantage of her assumes that he was lying just to get to her pants. By assuming that he was lying implies that you also think that the woman was more or less a whore. If the feminists truly thought that the woman was acting in a morally correct way the guy at the bar would just have been giving her a true and sincere compliment.

FFS. You're over analyzing.

[godfather dust]

What the fuck did you expect?

Although they shouldn't have asked you to share your answers. None of their god damn business. I personally wouldn't have bit my tounge at that point even if it got me fired.

[GeroMeroHero]

So what did you do wrong exactly?

[Cheetah]

(01-31-2015 03:26 PM)Shortest Straw Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 07:52 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Assuming this scenario really was brought up at a company the 'company correct answers' can't be argued the way they did. It doesn't match up.

By saying that the guy at the bar picking her up was taking advantage of her assumes that he was lying just to get to her pants. By assuming that he was lying implies that you also think that the woman was more or less a whore. If the feminists truly thought that the woman was acting in a morally correct way the guy at the bar would just have been giving her a true and sincere compliment.

FFS. You're over analyzing.

Analysing yes, over analysing no. Analysing social scenarios does happen quite frequently on this forum if you pay close attention.

[The Father]

Arguing with your company HR people is about as effective as arguing with the KGB in Stalinist Russia, and with much the same consequence.

You risked your job, your source of income, perhaps even your career. Terrific, what did you get for it? Nothing. Who CARES what is said at these company sponsored events. They exist for two reasons: To minimize the chance of a lawsuit ("well we TRAINED against sexual harassment; if he did it anyway WE aren't liable we did everything in our power") or propaganda ("Oh PLEASE, Working Woman Magazine, PUH-LEEZE name us one of the '10 Best Companies for Women' -- see we indoctrinate anti-male bias like you requested!!). And that's it. YOUR role in these meetings is to nod, smile, and regurgitate whatever nonsense they want. "Women are better than men? The moon is made of green cheese? Uh -- SURE!" It costs you nothing, and it's fun b/c you're in on the gag. But getting angry and calling attention to yourself? Kids stuff. My guess is you are 30 or under, in which case you can attribute this to youth and consider it a learning experience (I was inclined the same way at that age). If not, my guess is your IQ is below 100; can't help you on that...

[Shortest Straw]

(01-31-2015 06:25 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 03:26 PM)Shortest Straw Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 07:52 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Assuming this scenario really was brought up at a company the 'company correct answers' can't be argued the way they did. It doesn't match up.

By saying that the guy at the bar picking her up was taking advantage of her assumes that he was lying just to get to her pants. By assuming that he was lying implies that you also think that the woman was more or less a whore. If the feminists truly thought that the woman was acting in a morally correct way the guy at the bar would just have been giving her a true and sincere compliment.

FFS. You're over analyzing.

Analysing yes, over analysing no. Analysing social scenarios does happen quite frequently on this forum if you pay close attention.

Ooh burnnnnn

Seriously, the point is it was a funny story. Who gives a crap if it's true or not?

[AntiTrace]

(01-31-2015 06:37 PM)The Father Wrote:  

If not, my guess is your IQ is below 100; can't help you on that...

I still have my job.

What is this "IQ" of which you speak?

[Cheetah]

(01-31-2015 06:38 PM)Shortest Straw Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 06:25 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 03:26 PM)Shortest Straw Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 07:52 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Assuming this scenario really was brought up at a company the 'company correct answers' can't be argued the way they did. It doesn't match up.

By saying that the guy at the bar picking her up was taking advantage of her assumes that he was lying just to get to her pants. By assuming that he was lying implies that you also think that the woman was more or less a whore. If the feminists truly thought that the woman was acting in a morally correct way the guy at the bar would just have been giving her a true and sincere compliment.

FFS. You're over analyzing.

Analysing yes, over analysing no. Analysing social scenarios does happen quite frequently on this forum if you pay close attention.

Ooh burnnnnn

Seriously, the point is it was a funny story. Who gives a crap if it's true or not?

'FFS', 'Ooh burnnnn'?

That is one possible way to interpret it. Another possible way is that the hamsters aren't congruent. You've clearly picked your choice. Interesting pick considering that you like the story.

I've heard about this ignore list. Perhaps I should contemplate to start using it if this is the kind of postings where you put your energy.

[silviophonic]

The story used in OP's 'class' is a variation of the Robin Hood Morality Test, which incidentally is a good icebreaker in conversations:

https://www.talisman.org/quizzes/robin-h...lity.shtml

Quote:

How moral are you? What is your attitude to morals, sex and honesty? The fascinating personality test below was written by a Sydney marriage expert who is a qualified psychologist. It began as a dinner party conversation gimmick, but it has been prepared in this form for readers to test themselves. To do the "test" you must give your honest opinion about morals and honesty of the four characters in our story of Sherwood Forest. Forget any preconceived ideas you may about them - this is a different sort of story from all the others. Ready?

The Sheriff of Nottingham captured Little John and Robin Hood and imprisoned them in his maximum-security dungeon. Maid Marion begged the Sheriff for their release, pleading her love for Robin. The Sheriff agreed to release them only if Maid Marion spent the night with him. To this she agreed. The next morning the Sheriff released his prisoners. Robin at once demanded that Marion tell him how she persuaded the Sheriff to let them go free. Marion confessed the truth, and was bewildered when Robin abused her, called her a slut, and said that he never wanted to see her again. At this Little John defended her, inviting her to leave Sherwood with him and promising lifelong devotion. She accepted and they rode away together.

Now in terms of realistic everyday standards of behavior, put Robin, Marion, Little John, and the Sheriff in the order in which you consider they showed the most morality and honesty.

[Texas_Tryhard]

(02-04-2015 10:57 AM)silviophonic Wrote:  

The story used in OP's 'class' is a variation of the Robin Hood Morality Test, which incidentally is a good icebreaker in conversations:

https://www.talisman.org/quizzes/robin-h...lity.shtml

Quote:

How moral are you? What is your attitude to morals, sex and honesty? The fascinating personality test below was written by a Sydney marriage expert who is a qualified psychologist. It began as a dinner party conversation gimmick, but it has been prepared in this form for readers to test themselves. To do the "test" you must give your honest opinion about morals and honesty of the four characters in our story of Sherwood Forest. Forget any preconceived ideas you may about them - this is a different sort of story from all the others. Ready?

The Sheriff of Nottingham captured Little John and Robin Hood and imprisoned them in his maximum-security dungeon. Maid Marion begged the Sheriff for their release, pleading her love for Robin. The Sheriff agreed to release them only if Maid Marion spent the night with him. To this she agreed. The next morning the Sheriff released his prisoners. Robin at once demanded that Marion tell him how she persuaded the Sheriff to let them go free. Marion confessed the truth, and was bewildered when Robin abused her, called her a slut, and said that he never wanted to see her again. At this Little John defended her, inviting her to leave Sherwood with him and promising lifelong devotion. She accepted and they rode away together.

Now in terms of realistic everyday standards of behavior, put Robin, Marion, Little John, and the Sheriff in the order in which you consider they showed the most morality and honesty.

Such a horseshit test. Notice that any answer that doesn't place Little John and Maid Marion in the top 2 means you're an unhappy puritan who doesn't get laid.

Marion used her vagina to get what she wants rather than find a more moral way to free her comrades. She is a skank who takes the easy road. However, she is willing to self-sacrifice for her friend and lover.

The Sheriff is an asshole who kidnaps people and blackmails their friends for sex.

Little John is a bit of an idiot to offer devotion to a chick who spreads her legs wide to get what she wants, and blatantly lusts after Marion with no self-control. Still, he otherwise acts morally.

Robin has the most morality here. He expects high standards of behavior from those he associates with and rejects their excuses for immorality actions. Still, he could show gratitude even while rejecting Marion as his woman.

My view: Robin>Little John>Marion> Sheriff

[ChazKGB]

Obvious trolling from OP. Telling story about sexual harassment meeting that results in him banging the HR woman...

[Shortest Straw]

(02-04-2015 02:15 PM)ChazKGB Wrote:  

Obvious trolling from OP. Telling story about sexual harassment meeting that results in him banging the HR woman...

Dunno, man, the OP has been around for a while, quite a lot longer than you.

To me it seems pretty harmless. Analyzing the story seems pointless. Whether it's truth or fiction doesn't matter much, as he wasn't asking for input or trying to provoke conversation or start a fight. If you haven't ever sat around and bullshitted, well, you missed out. And to me it's nothing more than bullshit. Could be true, might not, who cares, it was a fun read, move along to the next anecdote.

It's a little odd that the thread got hostile as quickly as it did. I think you guys are taking it too seriously.

[eradicator]

(02-04-2015 01:59 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 10:57 AM)silviophonic Wrote:  

The story used in OP's 'class' is a variation of the Robin Hood Morality Test, which incidentally is a good icebreaker in conversations:

https://www.talisman.org/quizzes/robin-h...lity.shtml

Quote:

How moral are you? What is your attitude to morals, sex and honesty? The fascinating personality test below was written by a Sydney marriage expert who is a qualified psychologist. It began as a dinner party conversation gimmick, but it has been prepared in this form for readers to test themselves. To do the "test" you must give your honest opinion about morals and honesty of the four characters in our story of Sherwood Forest. Forget any preconceived ideas you may about them - this is a different sort of story from all the others. Ready?

The Sheriff of Nottingham captured Little John and Robin Hood and imprisoned them in his maximum-security dungeon. Maid Marion begged the Sheriff for their release, pleading her love for Robin. The Sheriff agreed to release them only if Maid Marion spent the night with him. To this she agreed. The next morning the Sheriff released his prisoners. Robin at once demanded that Marion tell him how she persuaded the Sheriff to let them go free. Marion confessed the truth, and was bewildered when Robin abused her, called her a slut, and said that he never wanted to see her again. At this Little John defended her, inviting her to leave Sherwood with him and promising lifelong devotion. She accepted and they rode away together.

Now in terms of realistic everyday standards of behavior, put Robin, Marion, Little John, and the Sheriff in the order in which you consider they showed the most morality and honesty.

Such a horseshit test. Notice that any answer that doesn't place Little John and Maid Marion in the top 2 means you're an unhappy puritan who doesn't get laid.

Marion used her vagina to get what she wants rather than find a more moral way to free her comrades. She is a skank who takes the easy road. However, she is willing to self-sacrifice for her friend and lover.

The Sheriff is an asshole who kidnaps people and blackmails their friends for sex.

Little John is a bit of an idiot to offer devotion to a chick who spreads her legs wide to get what she wants, and blatantly lusts after Marion with no self-control. Still, he otherwise acts morally.

Robin has the most morality here. He expects high standards of behavior from those he associates with and rejects their excuses for immorality actions. Still, he could show gratitude even while rejecting Marion as his woman.

My view: Robin>Little John>Marion> Sheriff

Robin Hood>Sheriff>Marion>little John

Robin Hood. Stood his ground and did not tolerate his girlfriend whoring around even if it was to 'just try to help". He could never respect her after fucking his arch enemy. It's not like he can't find another woman, he is freaking robin hood.

Sheriff is a pimp for not only catching and holding robin hood and little john, but also getting marion to fuck him in exchange to let the prisoners go. I have him at number 2 but he could have jumped to number one if he fucked marion and threw her out and kept the prisoners.

Marion. She actually could have jumped to number one if she simply kept her mouth shut about how she got robin and little john released. Using her pussy as her only weapon isn't necessarily a bad idea. All women are whores for the right price. Her main mistake was confessing what she did. She should have lied. I would have actually respected her more if she had come up with a clever lie to ease robin's doubts. The true maid marion from the books would have likely tried flirting with the jailor, probably bringing him some poisoned ale and swiping the keys and getting her friends out. She didn't use any sort of guile, just her pussy. If she had promised to fuck the sheriff but drugged him instead and got the keys and got her friends, then she would have been cool. That didn't happen in this version.

Little john. I have him at the bottom, he could move up a few spaces if he just has sex with marion and then abandons her. He is almost certainly entering knowingly entering into a future with marion as a future cuckold

[AntiTrace]

Actually, I have recently been promoted. I'm kinda like the office space guy I guess.