[Onto]

It will cost you a couple hundred bucks to consult with a lawyer. Why not do that and get a sense of what the laws are in "her" state.

You could always ride it out, play nice for a few years make cash at your job while off-shoring money and making and escape plan.

If you bolt now and she goes to court you lose your passport, if you bolt in 3 years you lose your passport, but with some extra cash for yourself. So it probably doesn't hurt to hang around for a few years and see how it goes.

[Rutting Elephant]

(05-14-2014 08:01 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 07:57 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 07:42 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Onto, I have no idea what you're talking about when throwing these figures around.

If the guy doesn't want to be part of the kid's life, he just pays the monthly child support payment and calls it a day.

He isn't going to be paying additional money for braces and private schools. The chick can do that if the child support payments aren't enough.

It depends on the State, if we are talking about New York State then I am correct and you are not.

You should run away to another country like you suggested to Trader. I gather your running to Vietnam advice isn't something you would do yourself, eh? Typical fear mongering.

[BLarsen]

Try a "Hail Mary"?

Quote:

IMPORTANT LIFE LESSON: Pullin' a hail mary (Lesson from Tom Leykis)

-Tell her you love her, you want to get married, you want to settle down in the near future. (You are lying through your teeth of course)
-Explain to her that having a child right now, will cost a lot of money which could otherwise be spent on getting married or on affording buying a brand new home and that you could always have a child later on.
-If she agrees. Be with her at every step to ensure that she has the abortion. Help her book an appointment etc...
-Take her to an abortion clinic and get it done. Afterwards, take her to mcdonalds for an egg mcmuffin (meaning that she had to have had the abortion before 10am).
-Then dump the bitch.

[TheFinalEpic]

Fuck, child support is until 21 in the states? Canadians get lucky and only pay til 18.

Thats a savings, by your calculations, of almost 150k!! They really fuck you hard.

[The Trader]

I'm really not looking to run away, but was actually planning a major move abroad in the not too distant future. She knew this too. I just want no part of babies like this. Not like this. Not with her.
I want to crawl into a hole and not come out for a while. But if the payment is reasonable and not more then like $2.5k a month max, I will take my lumps and still stack a little more paper and leave when I was going to.

[The Trader]

(05-14-2014 08:07 PM)BLarsen Wrote:  

Try a "Hail Mary"?

Quote:

IMPORTANT LIFE LESSON: Pullin' a hail mary (Lesson from Tom Leykis)

-Tell her you love her, you want to get married, you want to settle down in the near future. (You are lying through your teeth of course)
-Explain to her that having a child right now, will cost a lot of money which could otherwise be spent on getting married or on affording buying a brand new home and that you could always have a child later on.
-If she agrees. Be with her at every step to ensure that she has the abortion. Help her book an appointment etc...
-Take her to an abortion clinic and get it done. Afterwards, take her to mcdonalds for an egg mcmuffin (meaning that she had to have had the abortion before 10am).
-Then dump the bitch.

I thought about this...But the 38 years old bit baby rabbies and her incessant questioning about how I never planned to stay with her made it a hard one to execute, you would have to jump on this plan the moment she mentioned 'pregnant' in order to have any chance of success.
edit: its 'just' till 18 in this state..yay.

[The Trader]

This just in via text:

"There really is just nothing else to say. You've made your point. I have made mine. I really do not need you for anything, financial or emotional. Take a screenshot of this. I do mean it. When the time comes, I will give you the option of signing all custodial rights/obligations away. As I mentioned before, the only thing that I ask is for you to answer genetics questions. Other than that you can move right along. This is the best thing for everyone."

While I felt hurt for a few seconds do to a feeling of guilt. I am over it already. At the end of the day, if I tried to 'hang in there' because its the martyr's way, I would have been very miserble and resented them both immediately and always for having my wings clipped when I didn't want them to be. Then, after a couple years of co-habitating, which would also have been horrible, I would have been forced into the commonlaw swindle which is as bad as a divorce in the courts eyes, and been raped. I think I was just used as a sperm donor..

[worldwidetraveler]

(05-14-2014 08:21 PM)The Trader Wrote:  

This just in via text:

"There really is just nothing else to say. You've made your point. I have made mine. I really do not need you for anything, financial or emotional. Take a screenshot of this. I do mean it. When the time comes, I will give you the option of signing all custodial rights/obligations away. As I mentioned before, the only thing that I ask is for you to answer genetics questions. Other than that you can move right along. This is the best thing for everyone."

While I felt hurt for a few seconds do to a feeling of guilt. I am over it already. At the end of the day, if I tried to 'hang in there' because its the martyr's way, I would have been very miserble and resented them both immediately and always for having my wings clipped when I didn't want them to be. Then, after a couple years of co-habitating, which would also have been horrible, I would have been forced into the commonlaw swindle which is as bad as a divorce in the courts eyes, and been raped. I think I was just used as a sperm donor..

Don't say anything or send any texts without talking to a lawyer. Keep all communication and show the lawyer. Time to be an asshole.

[The Trader]

(05-14-2014 08:23 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 08:21 PM)The Trader Wrote:  

This just in via text:

"There really is just nothing else to say. You've made your point. I have made mine. I really do not need you for anything, financial or emotional. Take a screenshot of this. I do mean it. When the time comes, I will give you the option of signing all custodial rights/obligations away. As I mentioned before, the only thing that I ask is for you to answer genetics questions. Other than that you can move right along. This is the best thing for everyone."

While I felt hurt for a few seconds do to a feeling of guilt. I am over it already. At the end of the day, if I tried to 'hang in there' because its the martyr's way, I would have been very miserble and resented them both immediately and always for having my wings clipped when I didn't want them to be. Then, after a couple years of co-habitating, which would also have been horrible, I would have been forced into the commonlaw swindle which is as bad as a divorce in the courts eyes, and been raped. I think I was just used as a sperm donor..

Don't say anything or send any texts without talking to a lawyer. Keep all communication and show the lawyer.

Just downloaded the Texts. I will cross the street if I saw her walking on my side of it.

[Onto]

(05-14-2014 08:21 PM)The Trader Wrote:  

This just in via text:

"There really is just nothing else to say. You've made your point. I have made mine. I really do not need you for anything, financial or emotional. Take a screenshot of this. I do mean it. When the time comes, I will give you the option of signing all custodial rights/obligations away. As I mentioned before, the only thing that I ask is for you to answer genetics questions. Other than that you can move right along. This is the best thing for everyone."

You may be off the hook. At this point just let her keep doing the leading.

I wouldn't even respond to that text. Wait for her to keep making the moves, especially since it's going in the direction you're wanting it to go.

[The Lizard of Oz]

Females make 250k a year trolling RVF?

[The Trader]

(05-14-2014 08:27 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Females make 250k a year trolling RVF?

Why pay the bitches that when I would do it for half that from a sunny, remote location via wifi? Silly rabbit, sign me up!!

[Cattle Rustler]

WWT is putting everyone on lock! +1 for keeping his cool and playing master-level chess.

Make her get a test. Pay what you need to pay. Go on with life.

[Onto]

(05-14-2014 08:27 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Females make 250k a year trolling RVF?

I think the karma for any woman trolling like this would be she gives birth to the man who leads the successful campaign for Men's rights.

[The Trader]

I hope this screen shot comes though, the the lizard of oz can be my legal witness
Edit: I will try again
How do you post a screen shot from an I phone? I'm trying, its says to chose your file, I do, then 'add attachment'. then 'insert into post' the 'post reply'?

[The Lizard of Oz]

http://ifaketext.com/

[Brodiaga]

(05-14-2014 06:34 PM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 05:37 PM)Onto Wrote:  

...
Vietnam has no extradition laws, and I believe Colombia doesn't either??
...

Actually, Vietnam DOES extradite to the U.S. So scratch that one off the list, at least.

I have never heard of anyone who was extradited for not paying child support.

[Rutting Elephant]

(05-14-2014 08:39 PM)The Trader Wrote:  

I hope this screen shot comes though, the the lizard of oz can be my legal witness
Edit: I will try again
How do you post a screen shot from an I phone? I'm trying, its says to chose your file, I do, then 'add attachment'. then 'insert into post' the 'post reply'?

Fwiw, I've never been able to post images or youtube links here from my ipad.

[Tuthmosis]

[Samseau]

(05-14-2014 08:21 PM)The Trader Wrote:  

This just in via text:

"There really is just nothing else to say. You've made your point. I have made mine. I really do not need you for anything, financial or emotional. Take a screenshot of this. I do mean it. When the time comes, I will give you the option of signing all custodial rights/obligations away. As I mentioned before, the only thing that I ask is for you to answer genetics questions. Other than that you can move right along. This is the best thing for everyone."

Yeah right on the financial. You can hope and pray but I smell

[Christian McQueen]

Child support is until 21yo in the states? Wait what?

[alphaspiraton]

Edit.

[Samseau]

(05-14-2014 09:05 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

Child support is until 21yo in the states? Wait what?

If they go to college, yes.

Also, I dated a girl once who said her mother didn't collect on child support for 15 years, then fell onto hard times and went back to court for help.

The court the ordered he pay back all 15 years of child support he missed, plus interest and inflation, and continue to pay for her until she was done with college.

This girl also used to beg me to cum inside of her too.

[Christian McQueen]

^WTF...

I have no words.

[Onto]

(05-14-2014 09:05 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

Child support is until 21yo in the states? Wait what?

It depends on the state. In New York emancipation is 21 and they don't necessarily have to go to college. They just have to be "dependent" enough to find more money useful to have in their lives.

In NJ it's 18, but I believe that's a guideline and not a hard number like NY has with 21. Under certain circumstances, in NJ it could go beyond 18 with no set end date, at least that was what I interpreted from reading the law, but I've only had to deal directly with NY so I can only attest with certainty to that state.

In the end, the judge decides what will happen and judges don't like people telling them what the law is. They want to be the law, so they often just do what they want. You could appeal, but it will cost a lot in lawyers fees and you may be forced to pay for her lawyers too.