[AntiTrace]

I have a hit a peak in my game. Not the highest peak, but a peak for the foreseeable future. It normally works like that for me; I hit a peak and then plateau for a bit before starting the climb up again.

I don't want this to come across as bragging, so I will state that I will always think of myself as a beginner at game. Every time I think I know everything and I'm walking comfortably across that plateau, I stumble into a new learning period and begin the climb up to the next peak. Sometimes I amaze myself with my results, sometimes I make some stupid mistakes. I do not claim to be an expert and nor do I want to be.

That being said, here are some situations from the last month or so:

1. Pulled an 18yo stripper directly from the club to my place. 5'1 104 lbs or so.
2. Pulled a mid 30s chick same night from the club. Nothing to brag about but she had a vagina that could make a gay man straight.
3. Met a 24 year old middle school teacher. Did the bathroom pull.
4. 25 year old gorgeous country girl. easily an 8.5, possibly 9. Spent two days partying and fucking. Then we went our seperate ways.
5. 21 year old barista. Small girl at just over 5 feet and nice and skinny at right around 100lbs. A real spinner. Short, skinny, with a nice ass and tits to go with it, my ideal girl. Real cute too.
6. 21 year old model. I won't go more into detail on her because it is actually becoming kind of serious between us.
7. Almost got a threesome with a 18yo 7 and her 21yo 7.5 friend, some shit went down and ended that opportunity.
8. Went to a party. One girl wanted me bad. Her friend told her "You're not going to fuck Anti tonight unless I can join". Her friend was engaged.
9. Had two waitresses throwing themselves at my friend and I. I was with a regular and my good friend. One waitress kept pulling my regular aside and telling her that she liked me. My regular told me that the girls had been eye fucking us all night and my friend and I could take both of them home if we wanted too. I said "I know".

Here is some stuff that I have realized lately:

1. Work Out
I posted this a bit back http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-32580-...#pid651826.

I preach it again. I went from skinny to in shape, and am now in the process of getting big. Not only will you gain a healthier lifestyle and diet when you focus on your body, the attention you get from females will increase as well.

My buddy from #9 up above is fucking jacked. Kid could be on the cover of muscle and fitness. He's 5'2" and gets laid like a champ from some bad bitches. He's early 30's and currently fucking a 19yo 8.

Some people read material and study game for an hour or so a day. Once you get the basics down, your much better using that hour to work out and then reinforcing what you know by going out.

2. Read the signs, Act accordingly

Thank Tuthmosis for this article: http://www.returnofkings.com/16837/24-signs-shes-a-slut

Sometimes you think a girl is a nice girl, and you game her as such. Sometimes that nice girl turns out to be a closet freak. When you starting reading those signs you need to switch gears and get aggressive or she is going to get bored with you.

#5 from above is an example. A barista I met and all signs pointed to good girl. Had a coffee date and everything went great. Had a second date for drinks where I was going for the bang. I started seeing signs that she was a freak. I switched gears and became sexually agressive in my game, brought her home and had some crazy sex. She even asked for anal, but couldn't handle it.

3. Some things are simply out of your control

Girls from #7 above.

Everything was set. They were smoking and we were all drinking. I got both of them talking sexually and they both claimed to be bisexual. Got them to do some light kissing and was getting ready to move into a dual massage.

21 year old got a phone call from her ex boyfriend. Guess this guy really put her through the ringer during the break up. The drama escalated and she left to go home and didn't respond to texts or phone calls. The other chick was her friend and was worried about her, so she left to go be with her.

There's no sense worrying about stuff that is out of your control.

4. When doing the bathroom pull, go to the men's bathroom

Females are jealous catty little bitches. When they hear two people banging in the bathroom stall, they get security.

Males are horny bastards that will let things be (most of the time). When they hear people banging in the bathroom, they will cheer you on.

Pull to the men's room, not the women's.

5. Game is just trolling women

Parlay said it here http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-16394-...#pid631974.

It is so true. Troll the shit out of them. Make fun of them. Tease them. Take their drink from them. Order them a drink of water. Call them fake names. Call them different names all throughout the night.

Whatever you do, don't take them seriously.

6. Fuck them good if you want them to come back

#5 hadn't had an orgasm in a few months.
#1 never had an orgasm through sex.
#6 never had an orgasm in her entire life.

I gave them all orgasms. I gave #5 eight orgasms, she had to stop becuse she was shaking and too sensitive.

I'm not a porn star. I don't have a huge dick. I just make sure I take care of my ladies.

I know there are a lot of guys out with there with the attitude of "I don't care about them as long as I get mine." That's fine if you don't care about seein the chick again. But if your with a hot chick that you wan't to fuck again, do a good job.

Take command. Take ownership of that pussy. Throw them around. Pull their hair. Slap their ass. Squeeze their ribs. Rub the clit as you fuck them.

Fuck them good and they will come back under their own effort.

7. Your only limited by your excuses

What are you making excuses for? Those are your weak points and you should fix them.

If they are natural and can't be fixed (height, looks, race, etc) then own that shit.

My 5'2" friends always says:

"Yeah I'm short with a small dick. I'll still fuck the shit out of you. I strap a dildo on. I'll break off the leg a chair a jam up inside you. I'll even spit on first, because I'm a fucking gentleman."

Fix what you can fix, own what you can't

[amity]

Great work bro.
It's always good to see your efforts bearing fruit.
I'm also in the process of improving myself, working out, eating right, approaching women more, and slowly but surely it's starting to pay off.
I also have a small(ish) wing who does well with the women(better than me), dude doesn't take himself too seriously, always has a few funny stories he shares with the women we approach, and has smashed several women several inches taller than him.
I'd go so far as to say that some of his stories and openers are puerile and childish, but most women lap that shit up!
Roosh was making a point recently, that you have to 'dumb yourself down' to some extent, especially in the initial stages of approaching and chatting to women, it's fucking true man.
I'm not saying go full retard but certainly the less intellectual you come across, the better, it seems.

[jayyrod1]

Thanks for keeping it real man. I am inspired and by this post

[heavy]

Inspiring, encouraging. Great post.

[wandenreich]

(05-08-2014 07:49 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

6. Fuck them good if you want them to come back

#5 hadn't had an orgasm in a few months.
#1 never had an orgasm through sex.
#6 never had an orgasm in her entire life.

I gave them all orgasms. I gave #5 eight orgasms, she had to stop becuse she was shaking and too sensitive.

I'm not a porn star. I don't have a huge dick. I just make sure I take care of my ladies.

I know there are a lot of guys out with there with the attitude of "I don't care about them as long as I get mine." That's fine if you don't care about seein the chick again. But if your with a hot chick that you wan't to fuck again, do a good job.

Take command. Take ownership of that pussy. Throw them around. Pull their hair. Slap their ass. Squeeze their ribs. Rub the clit as you fuck them.

Fuck them good and they will come back under their own effort.

7. Your only limited by your excuses

What are you making excuses for? Those are your weak points and you should fix them.

If they are natural and can't be fixed (height, looks, race, etc) then own that shit.

My 5'2" friends always says:

"Yeah I'm short with a small dick. I'll still fuck the shit out of you. I strap a dildo on. I'll break off the leg a chair a jam up inside you. I'll even spit on first, because I'm a fucking gentleman."

Fix what you can fix, own what you can't

I'd like to add some of my personal experience on this as well. For any newbies that are just staring out and your game isn't that tight. If you want to build a harem fucking a woman good will be the best way for them to come back to you. Unless you're perceived as high value by a lot of people (have power) or loaded (rich) or 6' tall equipped with the look of an 8.

I have many personal flaws that I can't control as well. All of my experience in the past two months or so since I started out have been uphill battle, it still is even now. During the first date I will escalate to the point where the next course of action will be sex, that's when the ground become even for me. Be bold and be aggressive. Then, when we bang on second or third date I always make sure the bitches get off first and that's when they start to chase me after.

[No Habit]

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I have a hit a peak in my game. Not the highest peak, but a peak for the foreseeable future. It normally works like that for me; I hit a peak and then plateau for a bit before starting the climb up again.[...]

Motivational post of the day! Great job man.

[kaotic]

Goddamn Anti straight KILLING IT !!

[Seth_Rose]

Damn man, major props. Thanks for taking the time to break this down.

What's your game plan? Especially how often you approach, go out, where etc..

[BlurredSevens]

Great thread. +1 from me. It is a special feeling being dialed at your craft, there is nothing else in life quite like it. Keep up the good work.

[John Galt2]

(05-08-2014 07:49 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Whatever you do, don't take them seriously.

This.

[AntiTrace]

I normally go out twice a week with one wing. Sometimes I go out in large groups of up to 6-10 guys, but I don't prefer it.

I rarely go out solo. Not by lack of ability, but simply because I normally have at least one good wing to depend on.

My go-to wing is the 5'2" dude. We absolutely crush it when we go out together. His game is rock solid and I can depend on him to do his part. I return the favor. We feed off each other, like a symbiotic relationship. I know all the super cool shit about his life, and I make sure the ladies we are talking to know about it as well. He does the same for me. Looking back on it, him and I went out together 4-5 times in the time period above. I think every single time we went together I pulled.

My other wing is an early 40s dude that I met one night on the town rolling solo. His game is pretty good and he's still a cooze hound.
I got a few other wings that I can count on to have a good time with, but they rarely come out.

I would chalk most of my recent success up to going out with a solid wing and just having fun. I've noticed that my night game results sky rocket when I am out just having a good time, as opposed to going out with the main intention of game.



My online game is pretty standard. Decent pics, call out girls who view my profile/message and don't message, fluff talk for 5-7 messages, get the digits, get her out ASAP.

I daygame when the opportunities present itself, thats how I met that barista. But I don't do it very often. Now that summer time is around and the ladies are back out, I may have more opportunities.

My logistics are tighter than butt rape. My goto first date is a bar literally right out my back door. I also have five more within a 60 second walk. Living downtown can suck at times, but its money for game. I get laid every once in a while simple because of my logisitics. I'll get calls at 2am saying "Antiiiiiiiiiiiii I'm out at X bar (right next door), can I come over?".

So if I could add two more reflection it would be:
1. Find a good wing. Scratch his back and he will scratch yours.
2. Lock your logistics down.

really nothing ground breaking. just game 101.

[Christian McQueen]

"I've noticed that my night game results sky rocket when I am out just having a good time, as opposed to going out with the main intention of game."

^^^You just summed up what many fail to grasp about night game: It starts with you having a good time, having good energy and not giving a fuck about getting laid.

The end result is usually pussy raining from the sky.

[TheFinalEpic]

(05-08-2014 04:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

So if I could add two more reflection it would be:
1. Find a good wing. Scratch his back and he will scratch yours.
2. Lock your logistics down.

really nothing ground breaking. just game 101.

I would agree deeply about logistics, but not as much about the wingman. Personal experience has shown that rolling solo, even if friends are on the premises, is the way to go. You are accountable for you, and thus have more control over situations. Wingmen have proven to slow progress, but maybe I just haven't found someone compatible yet.

[AntiTrace]

(05-08-2014 05:16 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 04:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

So if I could add two more reflection it would be:
1. Find a good wing. Scratch his back and he will scratch yours.
2. Lock your logistics down.

really nothing ground breaking. just game 101.

I would agree deeply about logistics, but not as much about the wingman. Personal experience has shown that rolling solo, even if friends are on the premises, is the way to go. You are accountable for you, and thus have more control over situations. Wingmen have proven to slow progress, but maybe I just haven't found someone compatible yet.

I would say you havent found someone compatible.

I have went out with many wingmen and have been dissapointed with almost all of them.

My main wingmen have great game, are down to bounce venue to venue looking for the best prospects, will stay out until the sun rises, will run hardcore interference if needed, etc. They are more than wingmen, they are truly great friends that just also enjoy game.

My 5' 2" wingman kept two of a girls friends entertained for about 3 hours while I sealed the deal. He said they kept asking about the girl I was with, but he would always downplay it and move onto something else. He didn't even get laid out of it.

A wing that will do that for me earns my utmost respect and a return of the favor in the future if needed.

[Don]

Good stuff man, respect.

[Valhalla]

Great post anti.
one of my fav posters here. i think we'd have similar game styles.

[mikado]

(05-08-2014 04:50 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

"I've noticed that my night game results sky rocket when I am out just having a good time, as opposed to going out with the main intention of game."

^^^You just summed up what many fail to grasp about night game: It starts with you having a good time, having good energy and not giving a fuck about getting laid.

The end result is usually pussy raining from the sky.

One problem:
This is true if you are used to getting laid quite often , or have already pussy awaiting for you ( harem, or just a girlfriend). The IDGAF comes naturally because you KNOW you will get laid shortly. frenchie, you and most of the regular posters here fit this context.

However, if you don't have a very tight game, are in a long dry spell, or just have no harem to count on, it's hard to not think about getting pussy. You may fool yourself in believing you are having fun, but deep inside your memory you aren't totally. It's easier for women to just relax and have fun because they get validation by other means ( social media, beta orbiters... ) but when you are a straight man who wants to fuck attractive females, you cannot overlook that aspect.

I am not a game denialist, but: when I see people giving advice like "approach more, work out, travel etc etc" I agree, because that's concrete, and you can do that whether you are horny or not, in a dry spell or not, etc etc...
However when I see the " Just don't give a fuck and it'll be alright", "Just have fun and they will come to you" , I just laugh .

An ugly to average guy can have all the fun he wants or not give a fuck, this will never get girls to throw pussy at him UNLESS he has something else figured out ( clothes, money, status, fame, solid body etc)

For me before telling people to DGAF and JHF , you need to tell them to maximize their appearance and conversational abilities.

But just saying it without some follow-up is just key to disaster for someone inexperienced.

[amity]

@mikado That's a good point bro, and one that hasn't really been addressed fully here on the forum (not to completion anyway).
I guess this is where Heartiste's 'always keep two in the kitty' postulate stems from.
I hear what you're saying and I've struggled at times in the past with a similar scenario to yours.
Thing is though, the DGAF attitude gradually starts to seep from your pores, the more you start looking after yourself and start treating women with less awe, so in that sense, it's a self-fulfilling prophesy.
It doesnt matter so much if you are small, plump and bald. My best buddy is small, plump and bald and I shit you not, that dude knocks it out of the park with women cos he could give a fuck if a girl turns the other way when he makes a quip to open her with. He dresses sharp, and he knows how to banter and tell funny stories, but that aside, the guy has very little going from him, aside from his internal confidence!
You see what I'm saying here?
I'm better looking, taller, have a fuckload more hair than him and I dress just as well as him, but he does better than me with the women, cos he has successfully internalised this DGAF attitude and has developed an ability to small talk with random women in bars and drop in funny stories where possible to build comfort.
I'm also starting to internalise this mindset that for every woman I talk to, so I'm giving her the opportunity to get to know this attractive confident witty interesting guy. It's her chance to get to know me, her opportunity, her window to be with this great guy she's just met, she's the one who has to 'not fuck up', not me.
The more you start to think like that, the closer to reality it becomes.
It might sound like hogwash, but seriously, there is something to it.
Try it, and see. I guarantee you, you will see better results, as you keep this mindset.

[eradicator]

I tried to give you a +1 just now but realized I already gave you one. good post and worth remembering.

[Cobra]

Awesome post about progress in game. +1 for you.

I know I have a long way to go but reading stuff like this lets me know that effort will get me there.

[Nascimento]

This type of post reminds me why you're one of my favourite posters in here. NoBS.

Keep it up.

How are the quarterly goals going?

[Thesoloist]

Props to OP

The work out part is why I've been hitting the gym like a beast, I'm far from being in the shape I wanna be in but having people already compliment me on my weight loss is motivating and I feel/look younger

cheers

[Lothario]

Two things out of this thread really stood out for me, Thanks a bunch Anti Trace

1.

(05-08-2014 03:23 PM)John Galt2 Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 07:49 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Whatever you do, don't take them seriously.

This.

and thanks John Galt2 for pointing it out again

2.

(05-08-2014 04:50 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

"I've noticed that my night game results sky rocket when I am out just having a good time, as opposed to going out with the main intention of game."

^^^You just summed up what many fail to grasp about night game: It starts with you having a good time, having good energy and not giving a fuck about getting laid.

The end result is usually pussy raining from the sky.

Thanks CMQ, I literally gave up on Night Game but your post above sparks my interest in Night game again.

[bacan]

I need to do a bathroom pull. I never have. What do I need to know besides the men's room? I mean it just seems so absurd to propose but I want to learn how! Great post

[Nascimento]

(05-09-2014 06:56 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I need to do a bathroom pull. I never have. What do I need to know besides the men's room? I mean it just seems so absurd to propose but I want to learn how! Great post

Look for clubs or bars that have individual washrooms, key in my opinion.