[hydrogonian]

This is the correlate to my post How to Spot a Good Girl

I'm not discriminatory when it comes to sex.

However, it helps to be able to spot a certain type of woman early if you want any relationship other than that just based on sex. In other words, if you want a woman that will take up any of your time, money, or emotion, then it helps to be able to spot the bad girl as early as possible.

The girl who isn't worth any effort other than for sex, because its more trouble than its worth every time. The girls who respond most to being treated very badly. Girls who you never, ever want to bring home to Mom or take seriously. Girls who are often dynamite in the sack but who you never, ever, under any circumstances want to knock up because the Mom will ruin your life more than the baby ever would.

Some of these women are great at hiding their true nature to the untrained PUA. Therefore, I nominate that we make a running list on how to tell who the sluttiest of the slutty and the worst of the worst bad girls are.

All hail the bad girl, as you truly do fulfill our porn star dreams.

I think this could get funny, but try to keep it so it all has some basis in reality and your experience:


1. She uses facebook as her personal slut photoalbum, posting tons of posed pics of her in slutgear in her house. The key is that its outside of natural environments like the club or the beach.

2. She offers you anal the first time you have sex, even before you have put in in her vagina.

3. She has more than one baby daddy.
* I recommend avoiding all single moms. Personally, I've sworn them off.

4. She treats you like a King, but people in her family like shit. In other words, she treats the people badly who are close to her, who she doesn't stand to gain anything from, and who cant get away from her. This is you if you knock her up or get married to her.

[thekiller]

5- Much like Hydro's 4:If she treats wait-staff or service people shitty, expect to be treated the same in time. Also, I've found that women who tend to be OVERLY picky with meals and send stuff back often, are hassles in every other regard.

[hydrogonian]

6. She puts a a lot of value on jewelry or other status symbols that would put you both in an irrational amount of debt.

7. She knows how to suck dick like a pro - she gives that underside a good, long lick. * Not exactly a scientific measure or deal killer, but it should arouse enough suspicion to where you are then on alert for the other signs

8. She suggests that you both attend the voyeur sex club. And, oh yeah, she's been there multiple times with a selection of other boyfriends.

[hydrogonian]

9. She either has sex with you in a bar/club, or tells stories about doing anything like that with other guys. Any type of penetration (fingering, sex) or oral, and you can check off number 9.

10. Your mom or sister hates her. Women are often much better at knowing the score on other women, and so you can usually trust their opinion. Your mom and sister have your best interest at heart.

11. She never works to make amends in an argument. She just waits for you to apologize because, after all, her feelings are the only ones that exist. An extension of this is that her prior breakups were always the guys fault. Nothing she ever thinks or does is to blame.

[hydrogonian]

12. She's been pregnant. A lot. kids or no kids as a result.

13. She has signs of high testosterone production. A higher sex drive than is normal even for a horny woman. Wants it anywhere, everywhere, and probably rough. Fucks more like a man than a woman. Strong muscles. A mustache she needs to wax regularly. Anything that tells you that there is a man's caliber sex drive bottled up with the reasoning and rational capacity of an average woman. It sounds funny, but these women are common. And it sounds like Im describing a man, but Im talking about women that can look very feminine and hot. Its not a good combination for relationships that aren't just based in sex. Having a relationship with one man's sex drive involved is hard enough (yours). With two, and one isn't under control very well, the future isn't good. Your sex drive will dip well below hers, most likely, as you age.

14. Divorced. While she might be a good woman, I look at her as being too high a risk to take a gamble on. It would have to be a good story where the husband was a complete bastard. Otherwise, it tells me that she's a bad decision maker, impulsive, gets bored in relationships after some time passes, or a mix of the three. Most divorces are initiated by women. And if there is a kid, forget it completely. The chances of it being a defect in her personality are amplified tenfold. It might not be true, but the risk is too high.

[Kickb]

15. When she is at your house and she talks openly to her friend about other guys that she is doing/wants to do, then wants to have sex with you, but it turns out she is only 16. She really wants your dick so she tries to convince you that she is about to graduate college and is turning 17 in "a couple months"

[hydrogonian]

16. She tells you that she is 'special' or 'not like other girls'. This is girl code for "I'm emotionally unstable" or some other psychological abnormality that she has, is aware of, but is powerless to stop. However, feel privileged about the fact that she is at least warning you, in her own way, if you can decipher the code. Now you can. As an extension of this, be aware of any message that she gives early in the relationship about how she is, what she wants, or what she likes. She is telling you this upfront and early for a reason! Listen, no matter how insignificant that you think that it is. Think hard about what she tells you and what it means. Sooner or later you will be dealing with it.

17. She admits to having her homemade porn on the internet, or wants to make it with you and post it. Go ahead and do it if you want, but don't take her seriously after that.

[Kickb]

17. She wears super short shorts and fuzzy boots when it is 50 degrees out

[Walderschmidt]

(01-31-2011 04:38 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

15. When she is at your house and she talks openly to her friend about other guys that she is doing/wants to do, then wants to have sex with you, but it turns out she is only 16. She really wants your dick so she tries to convince you that she is about to graduate college and is turning 17 in "a couple months"

That's called Jail-Bait

[Aliblahba]

18. If you meet her parents and they try to pawn her off on you beware. They're tired of her drug addiction, unwanted pregnancy, mental issue, still living at home, ect. They want someone else to deal with her. I know this from experience....several times.

[Rocco81]

Hydro I'm on board with your post for the most part, however for argument sake I want to point out a few things.
A girl could def. have a high sex drive and still be dating material. Girls like that are fun and to me atleast, at times better than a girl that is too cold and just wants it on rare occassion. Of course you need to be a real alpha to handle an alpha bitch. This should be noted. That is the biggest problem is that there are dudes out here dabbling with trying to bang various women, be "players" etc but the moment they meet a realy alpha bitch they fold and show beta tendencies quick fast.

Also as a note to all the young bucks out there. It has occured to me that there are a ton more phony wanna be sluts out there now a days. Anyone else notice this? Why do I bring this up you might ask? Simply to point out that girls in this day in time more than ever are just doing what popular dance music, hip hop and faggy beta emo shit tells them to do...which is act like a whore, of course with the guise of bieng "Free , independant, grown up and liberated" . So, when they are telling you their desire to lick a chicks hoo ha or to bang you in a bar piss stall, maybe they really want it or maybe they just want to keep up with the slut next door. I started to notice this in College when chicks at parties would pull out boobies, kiss other girls or do something really slutty all the while with the look of guilt, shame and uncertainty on her face and really 75% of the time, she really just desired the attention of the drunk frat boy egging her on to do it.

[Rocco81]

19. She starts shit off the cuff with your friends or anyone in your social circle. This is a bitch trick to seperate you from friends or others who might also notice her whorish tendancies and call her on it , or warn you when she is not around.

20. Has very slutty girlfriends - If she has a roommate or another friend who she constantly tells bad stories about (close friend who strips, sleeps around, smokes crack etc) you can bet she is not far behind that friend.

21. She says she doesn't have a "type" - Every girl has a type or atleast limits on types of guys she dates. There is a slight chance when she says she likes all types, that it could mean she is just bieng nice (meaning she will tell you she loves all people, simply to not sound close minded or racist) but more than likely she really does not have a type and will bang any kind of dude different fashions, races, heights out there on a sudden whim. She rides the Int'l Colours of Beneton Cock carrousel.

[hydrogonian]

(01-31-2011 06:14 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Hydro I'm on board with your post for the most part, however for argument sake I want to point out a few things.
A girl could def. have a high sex drive and still be dating material. Girls like that are fun and to me atleast, at times better than a girl that is too cold and just wants it on rare occassion. Of course you need to be a real alpha to handle an alpha bitch. This should be noted. That is the biggest problem is that there are dudes out here dabbling with trying to bang various women, be "players" etc but the moment they meet a realy alpha bitch they fold and show beta tendencies quick fast.

No, I hear you. I definitely agree. Girls with high sex drives are insanely fun. Haha...most of what I listed as negatives are incredibly fun traits for a girlfriend to have. Amazingly so. Its worth it to have experience with women such as these, as long as you don't take them too seriously.

I guess you could qualify this thread as what to look out for to assure the best low stress long term relationships. For short term fuck flings, all bets are off.

That's the point of what I'm saying. Guys will confuse all of this fun for a woman that's worth falling in love with, which just isn't the case. Its very seductive behavior, in more ways than one. The "femme fatale" moniker is well earned for these women.

About the alpha bitch thing, though. I disagree that a real alpha man is what an alpha bitch wants for a long term relationship, or vice versa. I don't think that two alphas go together well. However, I will grant that there are degrees of alphaness. If there is enough separation in the degree of alphaness (she just a little and he a lot) then it might work. But I still don't think its as good as when there is a larger separation such as when an alpha is with a beta. This is just my experience.

To generalize:

I think that an Alpha woman is most sexually turned on by an Alpha man, but she can least tolerate him or he her. I think that she gets along best with a beta male (flaw: who won't turn her on), and the beta male with alpha tendencies is the best compromise for her. There is no perfect solution for the alpha woman, because its an unnatural personality for a woman.

I don't think that an alpha guy would prefer a true high alpha woman for a long relationship, unless he thrives off of stress and challenge.

No matter how alpha a man is, unless he's Zeuss himself, that high alpha woman will continue to challenge. A beta man is much better for her. Especially as things become routine.

Usually, an alpha male will want the most feminine woman he can find, to compliment his alphaness. After all, he has the pick of the litter. I don't see alpha women as being that pick. Fuck them for all they are worth, and for as long as you want, but don't let them get their financial or emotional hooks into you.

The highest status alpha men generally get the hottest, most feminine women (if they know how to screen and they don't settle for an alpha that seduces them with sex). Betas with alpha tendencies/alphas with beta tendencies get the hot alpha women or less hot feminine(beta) women as their best choices. The lowest women on the totem pole are the ugly alphas.

[Walderschmidt]

22. She tells you that she has never not cheated on any of her boyfriends

23. She brooches the topic of sex first

24. Her parents are divorced (and there was lots of cheating)[/b]

[The_CEO]

25. Has hundreds of facebook friends, that include male models, and numerous club promoters, as well as nightclubs themselves.

[Rocco81]

CEO is right on....what is it (Esp UK and US girls) and their gay ass Facebook pages. They try so fucking hard to look important and cool, showing their their pics posing like hookers in any given trendy club in your local down town dancing to some techno and/or Auto-tuner based shit hop.

[Kona]

26. She wears a bikini with a beer company logo on it.

Aloha!