[Renzy]

With the recent push by liberal politicians to put women in combat roles, it had me thinking - do any of the politicians pushing these policies employ bodyguards for personal protection? And if so, how many of these bodyguards are women?

Because I can't help but wonder when it's *their* personal safety on the line who do the "Women Can Do Anything Men Can Do!" politicians choose to protect themselves? Burly-as-F*ck-Bob or Gender-normative-strength-standards-Sally?

Assuming there was in fact a way to determine the breakdowns (I'm betting most bodyguards employed by politicians are men), it would be fun to point out their hypocrisy and then ask them what steps they're taking to ensure women's equal representation in the field of personal protection.

[sandmandr]

I only know of Admiral General Aladeen. He has many virgin bodyguards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEPSJF7BYOo

[StrikeBack]

This is a great way to black knight / troll the shit out of those hypocrites, esp since their personal protection is paid for by taxpayers' money.

[Checkmat]

(04-29-2014 06:25 PM)sandmandr Wrote:  

I only know of Admiral General Aladeen. He has many virgin bodyguards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEPSJF7BYOo

Beat me to it! "You are HIV...Aladeen."

[Roosh]

Muammar Gaddafi had female "bodyguards," but I think they served other more intimate uses. *wink wink*

[The Father]

Only the ones with a death wish...

[WestIndianArchie]

Chick between Barack and Joe is Secret Service




Here's a story about some in China

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/world/asia...odyguards/

[Icarus]

Anna Loginova (1978-2008) was a Russian fashion model, female bodyguard, and founder of an agency of female bodyguards (to protect Russian oligarchs). She died while trying to prevent her Porsche Cayenne from being carjacked.



From the Daily Mail article on her death:

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In a recent magazine interview, she insisted that she and her team of glamorous bodyguards gave better protection than the more traditional beefy male security men.

"I do think that a girl should be a girl, not a Terminator," she said. She posed semi-naked for a Moscow men's magazine to make it clear that she was feminine as well as good with a gun.

She was highly respected for her bodyguard skills. "A normal man gets sick and tired of male bodyguards around him all the time," she said.

"In addition, many restaurants now do not allow a guard inside. They can come in and check everything but then they are asked to wait in the lobby.

"In contrast, you can take female bodyguards inside, she will sit down at the table and nobody would guess that she's a weapon herself - and can react appropriately in any dangerous situation."

Here's a video on her death, courtesy of Russia Today:

[Hotwheels]

(04-29-2014 06:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Muammar Gaddafi had female "bodyguards," but I think they served other more intimate uses. *wink wink*

And he's dead.

[Renzy]

(04-29-2014 06:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Muammar Gaddafi had female "bodyguards," but I think they served other more intimate uses. *wink wink*

Confirmed.

Some quotes from the article:

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Gaddafi has kept a cadre of about 30 women, known as his Amazonian guard, close by his side since the early 1970s.
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The strongman asked his female bodyguards not only for their protection but also for oaths of virginity, and that they be dressed in camouflage, nail polish, coiffed hair, and heavy mascara.

One woman told the Sunday Malta Times she was blackmailed into joining the unit after the regime told her that her brother had been smuggling drugs into Libya and she would go to jail unless she agreed to join the brigade.

“A pattern emerged in the stories,” the Times reports. “The women would be first raped by the dictator and then passed on, like used objects, to one of his sons and eventually to high-ranking officials for more abuse before eventually being let go.”

[darklightdispatch]

(04-29-2014 06:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Muammar Gaddafi had female "bodyguards," but I think they served other more intimate uses. *wink wink*

Badass.

[Benoit]

(04-29-2014 07:11 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

Anna Loginova (1978-2008) was a Russian fashion model, female bodyguard, and founder of an agency of female bodyguards (to protect Russian oligarchs). She died while trying to prevent her Porsche Cayenne from being carjacked.

People are desperate to believe that women can do anything men can do. Life just doesn't work that way.

Mark Ames at NSFWCorp:

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When Anna Loginova -- Russia's first model-bodyguard -- was murdered by carjackers, the media went predictably nuts over her life-story. The only problem: everything about that story was a lie.

[Foolsgo1d]

So she and her female buddies gave better protection than the beefy bodyguards?

Not all bodyguards are big. The smaller guys whom have done special forces duties would snap your neck quite easily.

[Benoit]

(04-30-2014 05:14 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Not all bodyguards are big. The smaller guys whom have done special forces duties would snap your neck quite easily.

Still men though.

[Icarus]

(04-30-2014 04:33 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

People are desperate to believe that women can do anything men can do. Life just doesn't work that way.

Mark Ames at NSFWCorp:

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When Anna Loginova -- Russia's first model-bodyguard -- was murdered by carjackers, the media went predictably nuts over her life-story. The only problem: everything about that story was a lie.

Have you read the full article? I haven't yet, so I don't know where the lies are.

If Loginova claimed to be a bodyguard, then she was one, period. Maybe she was useless as a bodyguard, but business is all about perception, especially when there is no procedure to measure the quality of the service being provided.

[Benoit]

(04-30-2014 05:52 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

Have you read the full article? I haven't yet, so I don't know where the lies are.

If Loginova claimed to be a bodyguard, then she was one, period. Maybe she was useless as a bodyguard, but business is all about perception, especially when there is no procedure to measure the quality of the service being provided.

Yes I've read the full article.

The basic outline is that she was too old to be a model without a gimmick, made up the story and then started to believe it herself as an escape from the crushing brutality of life in Moscow.

She did the basic training but it was all just promotion. In the end she was murdered by carjackers. Her personal life is a sad story.

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As Anna pursued the reality of model-bodyguarding, she quietly dropped the hokey story she and the boxer came up with during the promo shoot. She no longer needed a story, because she was actually doing it. Within a year or so, she’d taken enough courses on shooting, jujitsu, protection and self-defense — she even got a license to carry a pistol, which she did wherever she went — to make her bodyguard alter-ego increasingly authentic. She herself began to believe it, and live it.

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According to Litavrin, the big flaw in her story was that it made as much sense to hire a gorgeous neophyte bodyguard as it would to hire a model heart surgeon who’d just taken up the hobby a year earlier. Real professional bodyguards require years of training, physical and otherwise, as well as field experience, in order to be effective enough to operate in an environment as demanding and dangerous as Moscow — attributes that the petite model lacked. “I know of only two or three women in all my years in the business,” Litavrin told me. “And they’re far from looking like models, if you know what I mean.”

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As the myth of Anna Loginova began to unravel, what began to emerge in its place was something far more interesting and impressive: a remarkably shrewd, adaptive entrepreneurial instinct. Anna was already 26, retirement age for most models, when she finally started getting her first success. She was fully aware that she’d come to modeling too late in life. The future must have looked frightening: How could she make the most of her looks in the few years that she still had left? Rather than go back to the brutal, hopeless search for a husband, she staked out as-yet unclaimed territory — and made herself queen of the mythological model-bodyguards, the Scythian Amazon in a jumpsuit — a move that, in hindsight, seems so obvious, it’s hard to understand why no one tried it before her.

[Icarus]

(04-30-2014 07:27 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

The basic outline is that she was too old to be a model without a gimmick, made up the story and then started to believe it herself as an escape from the crushing brutality of life in Moscow.

Thanks for the info. It's amazing what women come up with to avoid facing The Wall.

[Foolsgo1d]

(04-30-2014 05:33 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 05:14 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Not all bodyguards are big. The smaller guys whom have done special forces duties would snap your neck quite easily.

Still men though.

Don't get me wrong, when I say smaller guys I mean those who aren't lumbering flesh mountains you see with the likes of Britney spears.

Size is good but in combat situations you're a big target.

EDIT

I just saw this;

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As the myth of Anna Loginova began to unravel, what began to emerge in its place was something far more interesting and impressive: a remarkably shrewd, adaptive entrepreneurial instinct. Anna was already 26, retirement age for most models, when she finally started getting her first success. She was fully aware that she’d come to modeling too late in life. The future must have looked frightening: How could she make the most of her looks in the few years that she still had left? Rather than go back to the brutal, hopeless search for a husband, she staked out as-yet unclaimed territory — and made herself queen of the mythological model-bodyguards, the Scythian Amazon in a jumpsuit — a move that, in hindsight, seems so obvious, it’s hard to understand why no one tried it before her.

Isn't it funny that a gorgeous woman is considered past her prime and she knows it in Moscow, becoming subject to requirements but over here in the west you have the "30 is the new 19" brigade in full swing.

If you were to say to a group of 30 somethings in England that they were past it at age 26 you will need a good pair of running shoes.

[Icarus]

(04-30-2014 04:33 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

People are desperate to believe that women can do anything men can do. Life just doesn't work that way.

From the 48 Laws of Power:

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Law 32 - Play to People’s Fantasies

The truth is often avoided because it is ugly and unpleasant. Never appeal to truth and reality unless you are prepared for the anger that comes for disenchantment. Life is so harsh and distressing that people who can manufacture romance or conjure up fantasy are like oases in the desert: Everyone flocks to them. There is great power in tapping into the fantasies of the masses.

[Checkmat]

Whenever a topic like this comes up I am always reminded of that monologue from GI Jane--

Additionally as a veteran who has never seen combat I can't comment on the validity. However, at a joint-service MMA tournament at my last base, they had the women fighting against men. A room full of male soldiers cringing and audibly exhausting their disgust at seeing a male soldier bitch-slap, loudly, a female soldier and try to punch and kick her as hard as he could.

If soldiers have a hard time watching that, I'd imagine the cringing would be quite a bit higher when seeing a female getting gutted with a knife or her head blown off.

When it comes down to it that is my main issue with women in combat arms roles. Men's innate reactions to them being destroyed in front of them produce counterproductive emotions that would hinder them in combat.

[Renzy]

(04-30-2014 04:33 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

People are desperate to believe that women can do anything men can do. Life just doesn't work that way.

And in my opinion, forcing people to feel the effects of their own decisions and viewpoints is the only way to really rectify the situation. But of course with politicians it's always "Good for thee, but not for me."

My bet is a lot of these same politicians also have bodyguards that are armed (carry guns), even though the politicians themselves profess that they are anti-gun. Because, again, it's different when it's their safety on the line. Until people are forced to practice what they preach nothing changes.