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Should society adobt new moral views of victim sharing guilt with ofender?
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Should society adobt new moral views of victim sharing guilt with ofender?

I was recently reading local news about con artists who deliberately cause car accidents to get insurance compensations. This reminded me of the common problem of false rape accusations we often hear about and often discuss.

So I thought, that maybe false accusation problem is not limited to men's rights, feminism and gender relationships. Maybe it all is just a part of a bigger problem - the toleration and glorification of victim status.

Society has tried to abolish physical and even psychological violence for the common good. But the problem is that using legal system and scheming to prove yourself as the victim has become the new violence. This is a form of violence that we are actually encouraged to do. Calling cops or threatening to call cops on your husband for slapping or yelling is unrequested violence. Suing a gas station for not writing on coffee cup that coffee can be hot and cause burns is a from of violence. Hitting brakes so hard that car driving behind you slams into you is legal but it is still a violence. All this is legal, but it is still a violence.

Every time a crime happens the society loses. Investigation, repairs, medical fees, people stopping to pay taxes lives and going to jail on taxpayers money - all are costly. All crime creates social distrust and atomization, the costs of which is incalculable. Even if you punish the offender and extract penalty from him, you do not achieve zero sum, more is lost then was gained every time a crime happens.

Yet victim culture encourages crimes to happen by inviting or at least removing fears from people to become victims.

So maybe victims should be shunned just like fatties? After all a fattie is just a type of victim - a victim of obesity. I believe we have so many fatties today because many people want the privileges from a victim status, and getting fat is more easy and pain and risk free than getting raped or driven over a car. Perhaps, the shame should extend to all victims, proportionally to their regularity of being a victim.

Offenders should still be punished, but society should recognize that it takes two to tango. Victim must not be rewarded for being a victim. Depending on the degree the victims laziness, incompetence, ignorance, entitlement or delusions that make him a victim, the victim should receive a punishment too. I have so far recognized three levels:

1.No compensation.
At least not full compensation and definitely no surplus compensation. This should apply to all victims. Like car insurance companies leave a deductible, so every person should know that he should watch his safety and behavior at all times. A stolen thing should be returned to him and the thief should be punished, but if the stolen thing got broken, people need to understand that it is no obligation for anyone to compensate him. Definitely no surplus moral compensations which may leave children happy for death of their parents or a spouse happy for death or injury of other spouse. Divorce laws should fall under this.

2.Shame
Already covered above, the most chronic and obvious victims should be also shamed. A person should not be shamed if he gets robbed in daylight in city square, but if a person gets robbed repeatedly returning home late to his bad neighborhood and he still refuses to take the lesson and carry a gun or switch neighborhoods - he should be ridiculed and shamed for it.

3.An actual punishment for participating in a crime as a victim. This should apply only on the most serious cases of victim hood. The precedent is Islamic countries where a raped woman is stoned together with a rapist. I don't want to say that we should go that far. But some crimes are severe and devastating enough and boost social distrust and hate to such levels that everyone who lightheartedly allows them to happen even if they are the ones who suffer in the process must be tough a lesson.

So in conclusion it seems that most "men's rights" could be solved if red pill men as a group switched from only protecting "their rights" and fighting feminism and just started to propagandize the denunciation of victim culture.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this? Agree? Disagree? Any underwater stones in my theory? Sadly I have no one else to share these thoughts except with you guys.
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Should society adobt new moral views of victim sharing guilt with ofender?

Personally, i think the legal system is set up just fine the way it is. However, there needs to be a socital mechanism that prevents this sort of "lets all coddle the victim". Being a victim is the last place i want to be, but some people enjoy the narcissistic power it has over people.

Instead, we need more people willing to shame victims who build their identities around it. Call them out for cheapening the empathy and goodwill of people.
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