[Moriarty]

(04-24-2014 07:17 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 07:07 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 05:16 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 10:27 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

Lviv is nice in Spring/Autumn, though rather dull in summertime as many people are on their holidays.

Odessa is a good idea in June, as the summer clubs will be open, Odessa also has better facilities than Lviv. The girls are hotter in Odessa, but in Lviv they are more receptive(although this doesn't always translate into tangible results)

Thanks for your input.

I am not really interested in Odessa or other places at the moment. Like I mentioned in opening post - I am not a player, I am a below average guy, who is looking for increase his chances on dating market. For me something like "good enough women quality" exists and definitely Lviv is good enough.

Also, I am in process of re-reading "Bang Ukraine" and Roosh mentions there how important is when you are in some local social circle and/or you are not a stranger to girls you are trying to pick up. I positioned myself very well in this aspect in Lviv and it would be extremely poor decision for me to go elsewhere and start from the bottom.

Decision to go for month to Lviv in May/June has absolutely no money sense for me. Its still possible I will do it though and will consider it "investment" for my future plans.

Not really true, rolling solo doing day and night game was a delight for me there, the girls were very open. If your looks are below average then yes social circles will help, also you are Polish so will be able to understand the lingo somewhat?

Yeah, I understand a little bit and sometimes get away with speaking polish (with additions of ukrainian or russian words).

Don't really understand rest of your post though. Whats wrong with me trying to maximize my chances and looking to date in place where I feel I have the highest (doesn't mean they are very high...) chance to succeed? I am not questioning you will continue to have a great time in Crimea, why should I? I just don't see a point of doing it by myself.

I am not saying you shouldn't go to Lviv, actually considering the fact you are Polish I would say it's the best place for you. Crimea?, what on earth are you talking about, who told you to go there?

Good luck

[whoishe]

(04-24-2014 07:56 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 07:17 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 07:07 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 05:16 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 10:27 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

Lviv is nice in Spring/Autumn, though rather dull in summertime as many people are on their holidays.

Odessa is a good idea in June, as the summer clubs will be open, Odessa also has better facilities than Lviv. The girls are hotter in Odessa, but in Lviv they are more receptive(although this doesn't always translate into tangible results)

Thanks for your input.

I am not really interested in Odessa or other places at the moment. Like I mentioned in opening post - I am not a player, I am a below average guy, who is looking for increase his chances on dating market. For me something like "good enough women quality" exists and definitely Lviv is good enough.

Also, I am in process of re-reading "Bang Ukraine" and Roosh mentions there how important is when you are in some local social circle and/or you are not a stranger to girls you are trying to pick up. I positioned myself very well in this aspect in Lviv and it would be extremely poor decision for me to go elsewhere and start from the bottom.

Decision to go for month to Lviv in May/June has absolutely no money sense for me. Its still possible I will do it though and will consider it "investment" for my future plans.

Not really true, rolling solo doing day and night game was a delight for me there, the girls were very open. If your looks are below average then yes social circles will help, also you are Polish so will be able to understand the lingo somewhat?

Yeah, I understand a little bit and sometimes get away with speaking polish (with additions of ukrainian or russian words).

Don't really understand rest of your post though. Whats wrong with me trying to maximize my chances and looking to date in place where I feel I have the highest (doesn't mean they are very high...) chance to succeed? I am not questioning you will continue to have a great time in Crimea, why should I? I just don't see a point of doing it by myself.

I am not saying you shouldn't go to Lviv, actually considering the fact you are Polish I would say it's the best place for you. Crimea?, what on earth are you talking about, who told you to go there?

Good luck

Sorry about it. I mean Odessa of course, not Crimea

[Moriarty]

(04-24-2014 08:18 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 07:56 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 07:17 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 07:07 AM)Moriarty Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 05:16 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

Thanks for your input.

I am not really interested in Odessa or other places at the moment. Like I mentioned in opening post - I am not a player, I am a below average guy, who is looking for increase his chances on dating market. For me something like "good enough women quality" exists and definitely Lviv is good enough.

Also, I am in process of re-reading "Bang Ukraine" and Roosh mentions there how important is when you are in some local social circle and/or you are not a stranger to girls you are trying to pick up. I positioned myself very well in this aspect in Lviv and it would be extremely poor decision for me to go elsewhere and start from the bottom.

Decision to go for month to Lviv in May/June has absolutely no money sense for me. Its still possible I will do it though and will consider it "investment" for my future plans.

Not really true, rolling solo doing day and night game was a delight for me there, the girls were very open. If your looks are below average then yes social circles will help, also you are Polish so will be able to understand the lingo somewhat?

Yeah, I understand a little bit and sometimes get away with speaking polish (with additions of ukrainian or russian words).

Don't really understand rest of your post though. Whats wrong with me trying to maximize my chances and looking to date in place where I feel I have the highest (doesn't mean they are very high...) chance to succeed? I am not questioning you will continue to have a great time in Crimea, why should I? I just don't see a point of doing it by myself.

I am not saying you shouldn't go to Lviv, actually considering the fact you are Polish I would say it's the best place for you. Crimea?, what on earth are you talking about, who told you to go there?

Good luck

Sorry about it. I mean Odessa of course, not Crimea

[Lucky Luke]

Well, Crimea was de venue for Kazantip, the biggest electronic festival in Europe. I went there three times and picked up a lot. It's a huge shame what happened there.

[Greek kamaki]

(04-23-2014 08:30 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

I woke up today with a feeling that I should go to Lviv for a month to check how I would function there if I would decide to re-locate on permanent basis later this year or in 2015.
May or June sounds like a decent month to do it. Decisions, decisions, decisions...

In your position I would maintain my position in Warsaw and exploit Lvov nearness.Many guys would kill to be in your position so perfectly located. There is no reason to leave a city with economic booming development like Warsaw to get to an undeveloped place like Lvov where soon you will be indistinguishable from Ukrainian guys.

[whoishe]

(04-24-2014 03:15 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:30 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

I woke up today with a feeling that I should go to Lviv for a month to check how I would function there if I would decide to re-locate on permanent basis later this year or in 2015.
May or June sounds like a decent month to do it. Decisions, decisions, decisions...

In your position I would maintain my position in Warsaw and exploit Lvov nearness.Many guys would kill to be in your position so perfectly located. There is no reason to leave a city with economic booming development like Warsaw to get to an undeveloped place like Lvov where soon you will be indistinguishable from Ukrainian guys.

Thanks. But I will only leave Warsaw for Lviv in case of having serious work online (which is in progress), to go there permanently without it would be extremely poor decision.

And one month re-location sounds like a good idea to check if my plans make any sense at all.

Also, with ONS being difficult and me looking into some kind of relationships these days I don't really know how to exploit short (but it's relative - it takes 7hr to travel) travel distance between Warsaw and Lviv. But I hope to figure it out soon.

[Greek kamaki]

(04-24-2014 03:26 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 03:15 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:30 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

I woke up today with a feeling that I should go to Lviv for a month to check how I would function there if I would decide to re-locate on permanent basis later this year or in 2015.
May or June sounds like a decent month to do it. Decisions, decisions, decisions...

In your position I would maintain my position in Warsaw and exploit Lvov nearness.Many guys would kill to be in your position so perfectly located. There is no reason to leave a city with economic booming development like Warsaw to get to an undeveloped place like Lvov where soon you will be indistinguishable from Ukrainian guys.

Thanks. But I will only leave Warsaw for Lviv in case of having serious work online (which is in progress), definitely not ready to go there permanently without it.
And one month re-location sounds like a good idea to check if it makes any sense at all.

Also, with ONS being difficult and me looking into some kind of relationships these days I don't really know how to exploit short (but it's relative - it takes 7hr to travel) distance between Warsaw and Lviv. But I hope to figure it out soon.

Who told you that ONS are difficult?In Lvov I had the most ONS after Kiev.Do not let Galicia girls fool you.7 hours is nothing.I did 11 hours to Poznan and did not regret it.You provide extra value as a possible easy escape for an Ukrainian girl without her being too far from her family.
Also Lvov girls like 24 hour bang programs where they enclose you at hotel similar to polish village girls who restrain you to village house for relentless banging.

[Moriarty]

(04-24-2014 01:16 PM)Lucky Luke Wrote:  

Well, Crimea was de venue for Kazantip, the biggest electronic festival in Europe. I went there three times and picked up a lot. It's a huge shame what happened there.

Good point, although I have heard mixed Kazantip reviews, some say quality is low?

[Moriarty]

(04-24-2014 03:34 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 03:26 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 03:15 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:30 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

I woke up today with a feeling that I should go to Lviv for a month to check how I would function there if I would decide to re-locate on permanent basis later this year or in 2015.
May or June sounds like a decent month to do it. Decisions, decisions, decisions...

In your position I would maintain my position in Warsaw and exploit Lvov nearness.Many guys would kill to be in your position so perfectly located. There is no reason to leave a city with economic booming development like Warsaw to get to an undeveloped place like Lvov where soon you will be indistinguishable from Ukrainian guys.

Thanks. But I will only leave Warsaw for Lviv in case of having serious work online (which is in progress), definitely not ready to go there permanently without it.
And one month re-location sounds like a good idea to check if it makes any sense at all.

Also, with ONS being difficult and me looking into some kind of relationships these days I don't really know how to exploit short (but it's relative - it takes 7hr to travel) distance between Warsaw and Lviv. But I hope to figure it out soon.

Who told you that ONS are difficult?In Lvov I had the most ONS after Kiev.Do not let Galicia girls fool you.7 hours is nothing.I did 11 hours to Poznan and did not regret it.You provide extra value as a possible easy escape for an Ukrainian girl without her being too far from her family.
Also Lvov girls like 24 hour bang programs where they enclose you at hotel similar to polish village girls who restrain you to village house for relentless banging.

Kind of true, I tried Viagra for the first time in Lviv for a laugh, was great fun, 24 hr bangathon.

Although another time I met a girl in Krayivka, and despite the fact that she could barely walk when she got to my place she refused to spread her legs. She woke up the next morning telling me she wanted to drink, went to the shop to buy vodka, she still didnt spread, so I ended up throwing her out of my apartment. Cock teasing little madam

[Lucky Luke]

(04-24-2014 06:11 PM)Moriarty Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 01:16 PM)Lucky Luke Wrote:  

Well, Crimea was de venue for Kazantip, the biggest electronic festival in Europe. I went there three times and picked up a lot. It's a huge shame what happened there.

Good point, although I have heard mixed Kazantip reviews, some say quality is low?

The quality is quite high but it's a tough venue. Lots of couples and there are no foreign girls at all, which make Ukrainian/Russian girls quite wary of speaking to foreigners. Still, it can be done, I managed four bangs in the three years, one of them with a 9.5, probably the best girl I've banged in my life. It just takes a little patience and a little effort.

[Greek kamaki]

I think a polish conquistadore could do a serious damage in Lvov and invading other neighbouring Galicja cities like Lutsk,Rovno etc.Actually these are places where polish knights always fucked and if you go there you will realize that most people have polish relatives so it is a tradition to be kept.

[whoishe]

I know that women tell one thing and do the opposite and Ukrainian chicks quite aften also won't be an exception. But to be told something like this (when we were discussing boyfriends agreeing/disagreeing of girl doing various physical activities):

Quote:

i will never do what boyfriend is against, it's stupidly

it's still interesting to hear

Especially when this girl has above average job in Lviv and is paid in euros by foreign company. Plus she is definitely on "WB" side.

Coming back to my trip - it looks like it will happen. May15th-June 10th is the planned time. I was spending rather freely when going for short trips, but this time I;ve decided to do it on a tighter budget - 1000 USD, which still should be perfectly fine with current Hrivna to USD ratio.

I also decided to look for apartment not in the centre and was offered a 2 room in old building for 175 usd per month, it's maybe 10 minutes by taxi from centre. But it looks like a decent place to live with all the markets and parks around, plus there is a lot of people living there, so I hope to meet some girls who are maybe not frequent club visitors.

I already have two friends interested in visiting me for a few days (one will come alone and he's serious party animal plus he speaks good Russian, so it should be interesting), but if any of you would like to come at that time, let me know via PM.

[soda]

Western Ukraine is gold. All the civil problems and fights are in far eastern Ukraine (around Donetsk),

while western Ukraine is safe and will be safe.

Less tourists now, which means bigger and better opportunities to score with the pretty local ukrainian girls

[ChrisGambi]

No its not, sadly. Girls in the east are 1 -2 points better looking, dress sluttier, party more, and are more feminine.

[whoishe]

(05-06-2014 01:21 PM)ChrisGambi Wrote:  

No its not, sadly. Girls in the east are 1 -2 points better looking, dress sluttier, party more, and are more feminine.

Aren't this two points contradicting each other?

I am also very happy with people staying away from Lviv and Western Ukraine in general

[SpecialEd]

Whoisshe, how do West Ukrainian women compared to Polish girls in the bust department? I can't help myself, I'm a breast man.

[whoishe]

(05-06-2014 02:16 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  

Whoisshe, how do West Ukrainian women compared to Polish girls in the bust department? I can't help myself, I'm a breast man.

IMHO worse, but mostly it's because they are on the thinner side.

[Greek kamaki]

Breasts are actually a weak point in eastern slavic women compared to the abudant blessings of western slavic world.Polish,Czech and Slovak women posess breasts of titanic dimensions defending their land properly.

[SpecialEd]

^Greek, are you saying there are no ample-bosomed women to be found? Say it ain't so.

[Icarus]

(05-06-2014 03:32 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  

are you saying there are no ample-bosomed women to be found? Say it ain't so.

Approximately 1% of the population of Lviv is ethnic Polish. Hence, you can find busty women there, but they will most likely be Polish-blooded, not Ukrainian-blooded.

I once met a chick from Lviv who had gigantic tits. Yes, she was Polish-blooded.

[whoishe]

(04-30-2014 07:32 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

I also decided to look for apartment not in the centre and was offered a 2 room in old building for 175 usd per month, it's maybe 10 minutes by taxi from centre. But it looks like a decent place to live with all the markets and parks around, plus there is a lot of people living there, so I hope to meet some girls who are maybe not frequent club visitors.

It looks like I was too optimistic regarding renting an apartment - the one I mentioned earlier isn't available after all and I am currently in some troubles with getting some other decent offers.

And on top of it of course I have to be very careful with people trying to rip me off

Don't want to go there without apartment being ready, but I guess I can't rule out option that will have to spend a few days in hostel and start from there...

[SpecialEd]

I find you always get better deals when your boots are on the ground.

How much Ukrainian are you able to understand as a Pole? I'd think you would be able to negotiate an awesome deal given the crisis there and the lack of tourists. To get a two bed apartment for 175$ is crazy, that's like 1/10th of what I pay for a studio.

[whoishe]

(05-07-2014 01:45 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  

I find you always get better deals when your boots are on the ground.

How much Ukrainian are you able to understand as a Pole? I'd think you would be able to negotiate an awesome deal given the crisis there and the lack of tourists. To get a two bed apartment for 175$ is crazy, that's like 1/10th of what I pay for a studio.

I once took excursion of "Lviv underground" in Ukrainian and I was understanding it enough to not complain about wasting money.

Not sure how it will transpire into negotiatons for apartment renting, but hopefully I won't be ripped off.

I know you can make a good deal after arrival, but it also means you will waste some time you could spend on other activities

[whoishe]

Just arrived to Lviv.

The most important update - Roosh had to fix something, cause it's possible to visit RVF in McDonalds. Hurra!!!

Finished my breakfast: omelette +with orange juice 30 minutes ago at Old Square, paid around 2.50 USD and it was actually quite decent. No comment about price

Not sure how much I will be writing about my trip (don't feel comfortable writing about dating stuff), but if anyone has questions, I will try to help.

Staying here at least until June 2nd (but it's possible it will be extended until June 9th).

[Corroncho]

(05-16-2014 02:02 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

Just arrived to Lviv.

The most important update - Roosh had to fix something, cause it's possible to visit RVF in McDonalds. Hurra!!!

Finished my breakfast: omelette +with orange juice 30 minutes ago at Old Square, paid around 2.50 USD and it was actually quite decent. No comment about price

Not sure how much I will be writing about my trip (don't feel comfortable writing about dating stuff), but if anyone has questions, I will try to help.

Staying here at least until June 2nd (but it's possible it will be extended until June 9th).

I'm thinking about hitting up Lviv next year, so any intel you can provide is much appreciated. Thanks for contributing.