[Volk]

When my grandmother was 16, she met my granpa. He was 46. Colombia wins.

[spokepoker]

Has nobody touched on the fact that girls lie about their age to get with older guys?

When I turned 21, I was doing some chick I met at the mall, never asked her age, she told me she was 18 so I thought I was in the clear, but found out she was 15 or 16 later on from her friend, who only told me the age after lying about her own so she could eat off her friend's plate.
When I was 23 or 24, I was hooking up with a girl who was 17, but she told me she was 18. I found out she was 17 on her 18th birthday.
When I was 26, she didn't lie about her age, just never told me, she was going to community college, so I never asked, found out she just turned 18 a week after the first bone.

edit; just remembered a small anecdote from a friend:
He met a girl at an 18+ club, did her once, drove her home, met her parents. They told him she was 13. They weren't mad at him and didn't place any blame on him at all, because she had done it many times before.
He said they looked defeated.

[azulsombra]

I think another matter that hasnt been mentioned yet is the fact that America artificially extends childhood even more so than the U.K. This can be seen in our ridiculous 21 legal drinking age. This limit causes american society to still view 18 19 and 20yr old women through a child lens. Something that happens almost nowhere else in the world.

This hugely limits older males from mixing and meeting naturally with girls in this age range. A 30yr old woman in most countries hamster is spinning when she sees the "young" 18-21 girls in a club getting all the attention....in the states the same woman would be viewing 21-23yr olds through that same lens.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-09-2014 03:40 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

I think another matter that hasnt been mentioned yet is the fact that America artificially extends childhood even more so than the U.K. This can be seen in our ridiculous 21 legal drinking age. This limit causes american society to still view 18 19 and 20yr old women through a child lens. Something that happens almost nowhere else in the world.

This hugely limits older males from mixing and meeting naturally with girls in this age range. A 30yr old woman in most countries hamster is spinning when she sees the "young" 18-21 girls in a club getting all the attention....in the states the same woman would be viewing 21-23yr olds through that same lens.

Just how it works. Women crave attention, and when they can't get it they will do anything to obtain it. This is why they come crawling back even after you make them cry. They want that attention/approval you denied them earlier.

[Screwston]

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-09-2014 03:54 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

Not sure, but I know it's the only country to enforce their own laws outside of their own country. If you fuck anyone under 18 in a foreign country you can get charged in the States for doing so.

[speakeasy]

(04-09-2014 03:56 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:54 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

Not sure, but I know it's the only country to enforce their own laws outside of their own country. If you fuck anyone under 18 in a foreign country you can get charged in the States for doing so.

Actually it's only if you solicit paid sex from a minor. The point is to try and stop child prostitution. TBH, I don't really mind that. If dudes flying to Thailand to have sex with child prostitutes chained to the bed get arrested when they get home I'm not about to defend them.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-09-2014 04:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:56 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:54 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

Not sure, but I know it's the only country to enforce their own laws outside of their own country. If you fuck anyone under 18 in a foreign country you can get charged in the States for doing so.

Actually it's only if you solicit paid sex from a minor. The point is to try and stop child prostitution. TBH, I don't really mind that. If dudes flying to Thailand to have sex with child prostitutes chained to the bed get arrested when they get home I'm not about to defend them.

Hmmm didn't know that. The more you know.

[spokepoker]

(04-09-2014 03:54 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

it's different from state to state, some say 16 is age of consent, but only within a certain time frame (eg. +4.9yrs from 16), others are absolutely strict about the 18 age limit, so there are 16yo males listed as felons for having sex with their 16yo girlfriends.

[Giovonny]

I don't think America is creepy about age.

Like others have said, it's only the bitter older women who fuss about it.

Almost all guys want to date younger. Most young girls are open to dating older guys.

So, it's only the bitter older women who have a problem.

(04-08-2014 05:58 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Gio should start the thread with a motivational post here and there.

Motivation to bang 18 year olds..

My interview on "The Christian McQueen Show" is a good place to start:

https://soundcloud.com/thechristianmcque...up-college

(04-09-2014 04:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Actually it's only if you solicit paid sex from a minor.

This is not true.

Just sayin..

[tylerdurden1993]

I was having a discussion about this with my friends from university we were talking about Shakira age 37 and her partner Gerard Pique age 27.


I was saying i didn't understand why he didn't go for someone younger while they're response was that it doesn't matter as long as she's "fit".

They just couldn't see that an 18 year old girl is 100 times better than a 37 year old girl for many reasons and that older men younger woman couples are normal with the reverse in my opinion being abnormal.

They're jaws hit the floor when i said that "men age like wine and women age like milk".

P.S. any self respecting man who won't go after young girls (legal) because he's scared of the disapproving looks from older women or pussywhipped men doesn't deserve the testicles he was born with in my opinion.

[Samseau]

Older women can still date younger men, and it's pretty easy for them to snag a young man if they so choose. Generally young men are inexperienced and quick to fall in love. They suck at the game and go for women who are direct and forward. An older woman makes it easier for the young man to bed her and he jumps. She then uses her superior knowledge of what men like (i.e. her superior game) to keep him happy, such as by cooking, doing crazy sexual fetish shit, etc, and perhaps even buying him some nice things.

Honestly you shouldn't be surprised when you see an older woman with a younger man. She has better game than he does, by a landslide. And often times young men are so horny they cannot really tell the difference between a woman in her twenties from a woman in her teens, or a woman in her twenties from a woman in her thirties.

The only reason you don't see more older woman dating younger men is because they think younger men are beneath them, or just unlikely to commit to her.

[NY Digital]

Federal is 16. NY and NJ are 17 and 16 respectively. Limits are no relatives or no position of power(teacher, coach, babysitter, etc.)

Federal abroad is 16 as well.

California is 18 and thats where Hollywood is so its distorted.

[Timoteo]

(04-09-2014 05:30 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

I was having a discussion about this with my friends from university we were talking about Shakira age 37 and her partner Gerard Pique age 27.


I was saying i didn't understand why he didn't go for someone younger while they're response was that it doesn't matter as long as she's "fit".

They just couldn't see that an 18 year old girl is 100 times better than a 37 year old girl for many reasons and that older men younger woman couples are normal with the reverse in my opinion being abnormal.

They're jaws hit the floor when i said that "men age like wine and women age like milk".

P.S. any self respecting man who won't go after young girls (legal) because he's scared of the disapproving looks from older women or pussywhipped men doesn't deserve the testicles he was born with in my opinion.

I agree that it's okay if she's fit...to FUCK, not marry! In Shakira's case, you have the celebrity element thrown in, and she was still able to have a child for this dude. So she's a bit of an exception, but under normal circumstances, nah.

[Teedub]

(04-09-2014 05:30 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

I was having a discussion about this with my friends from university we were talking about Shakira age 37 and her partner Gerard Pique age 27.

I was saying i didn't understand why he didn't go for someone younger while they're response was that it doesn't matter as long as she's "fit".

They just couldn't see that an 18 year old girl is 100 times better than a 37 year old girl for many reasons and that older men younger woman couples are normal with the reverse in my opinion being abnormal.

They're jaws hit the floor when i said that "men age like wine and women age like milk".

P.S. any self respecting man who won't go after young girls (legal) because he's scared of the disapproving looks from older women or pussywhipped men doesn't deserve the testicles he was born with in my opinion.

Man, your generation is a lot more blue pill than even mine, and I'm not much older than you. I know a guy who's 20, he's a cool dude, but he was shocked when I was talking about slightly red pill stuff with him. He agreed but was shocked at the things I was saying about girls haha.

[xpatplayer]

(04-10-2014 08:05 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:30 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

I was having a discussion about this with my friends from university we were talking about Shakira age 37 and her partner Gerard Pique age 27.

I was saying i didn't understand why he didn't go for someone younger while they're response was that it doesn't matter as long as she's "fit".

They just couldn't see that an 18 year old girl is 100 times better than a 37 year old girl for many reasons and that older men younger woman couples are normal with the reverse in my opinion being abnormal.

They're jaws hit the floor when i said that "men age like wine and women age like milk".

P.S. any self respecting man who won't go after young girls (legal) because he's scared of the disapproving looks from older women or pussywhipped men doesn't deserve the testicles he was born with in my opinion.

Man, your generation is a lot more blue pill than even mine, and I'm not much older than you. I know a guy who's 20, he's a cool dude, but he was shocked when I was talking about slightly red pill stuff with him. He agreed but was shocked at the things I was saying about girls haha.

I agree wholeheartedly with that statement. I was talking about red-pill stuff (how women are very fickle) with a 21 y/o friend of mine and ever since, he's been saying that I oppose women's rights. As a matter of fact, red-pill ideas are more accepted by my foreign friends my age, kids from the South and guys who're at least 10 years older than me. With the younger generation (from E. Coast and W. Coast), its a taboo.

Shit, they'll talk about how fucking a 31 y/o cougar is natural while calling 20 y/o guys who fuck 18 y/o girls 'pervs'. Maybe its cultural conditioning, who knows?

Than again, most of the people I interact with are from the Northeast coast. I'm quite sure that this wouldn't really apply to kids from other parts of the country (sure as hell doesn't apply to kids from Texas).

As for the women? They cockblock like hell unless they like you. They think their friends are fucking toddlers and any guy, even their own age, who pursues them is a pedo. Not surprisingly, they tend to like older guys a lot more. Look at what women do, not what they say.

[Foolsgo1d]

Thought that picture with the blonde had an IRT in the background for a sec there.


My own experiences in the UK regarding age is a mixed bag based upon the risk of telling the girl your real age as opposed to cutting 5 years off.

Being 29 I look in my early 20s but with a lot of muscle so girls become really confused over my age. I have been cockblocked by revealing my age on two occasions with two 18 year old girls, never got the notch but I started to use 23-25 with more success and less resistance.

If you're going to hit on the younger girls you need to feel out their true age. There are a lot of 14-16 year old girls who look 18-19 in clubs and the fake IDs they have are second to none.

[berserk]

(04-09-2014 04:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Actually it's only if you solicit paid sex from a minor. The point is to try and stop child prostitution. TBH, I don't really mind that. If dudes flying to Thailand to have sex with child prostitutes chained to the bed get arrested when they get home I'm not about to defend them.

Just for the record, Thailand is not a child prostitution destination. The only cases I've ever heard of here are with gay men soliciting sex with minors. Of course, that un-pc thruth does not get told in ANY media, despite the fact that it is probably far more common percentage wise.

[Lucario]

I remember Uncle Tom Leykis talking about how men should treat women like cars.

When you start off with your license, you only take a used car since it is low maintenance and does not cost much, and then once you get enough money, you buy a newer, flashy model.

His analogy was inferring that young guys should get their easy sex from older women, then when they become more older and experienced at game, to go for a younger woman.

[jamaicabound]

I think this has even changed more in the past 10 years or so. I know the 60s were referenced but even just back around 2001 or so when i graduated all the hot girls were going out with college guys nobody gave it a second thought thats just how things were. Freshmen or siphmores often dated senuors some girls college guys. Today like you said no way that would fly. Shit theres kids getting decade long jail sentences for guys and girls who are in the same grade at school but one had a bday first and its 16/17 or 15/16. There was a story about a black kid in georgia who got like a multidecade sentence for this. The real shame is prosecutors and judges who push this shit. These laws were obviously intended to put away 50 year old guys fucking 12 year olds not for two high school kids having sex in a teenage romance

[Teutatis]

I know it might not look like it for guys on their early 20's but there's nothing better than a fresh and cute 18-20 year old girl.

Oddly enough I have a friend who's 29 or 30, that says he doesn't younger girls. I was shocked

[speakeasy]

(04-09-2014 05:04 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 04:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Actually it's only if you solicit paid sex from a minor.

This is not true.

Just sayin..

Here's the law: http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/sub...urism.html

Quote:

Section 2423(b) of Title 18, United States Code, is a similar provision. Section 2423(b) makes it a crime for United States citizens or legal permanent residents to travel from the United States to a foreign country with the intent to engage in illegal sexual conduct with a child such as rape, molestation, or prostitution. The difference between Section 2423(b) and Section 2423© is that Section 2423(b) statute requires proof that the defendant had formed his criminal intent at the time he began to travel. The penalty for this offense is also up to 30 years in prison. Finally, Section 2423(d) makes it a crime to be what is known informally as being a “child sex tour operator.” This statute makes it an offense to profit by facilitating the travel of U.S. Citizens or legal permanent residents, knowing that they are traveling for the purpose of engaging in illegal sex with a minor. The penalty for this offense is up to 30 years in prison.

So it looks like the law applies to people who traveled with the intent to have sex with minors and requires proof that this was your intention in traveling. If it "just happened" with some 17 year old you met at a club I think as long as you're complying with the AoC laws in that particular country and they can't prove that you went overseas for that purpose, I don't think they can do anything to you as long as it was consensual non-paid sex.

I have mixed feelings on these laws. On one hand it's a bit frightening that Americans can be prosecuted for a behavior that may be completely legal and non-stigmatized in another country. At the same time, we know many countries have very weak laws with regards to child prostitution. Many countries in Africa don't even have age of consent laws and are basically lawless when it comes to child exploitation. This is an attempt to protect kids abroad in countries where the rule of law is too weak to protect them.

Here was a guy who got busted in Bangkok for p4p with children. Dude was dumb enough to have taken photos of it. He was prosecuted under the extra-territorial AoC laws and is now doing hard time.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/teacher-gets...th-minors/

He just looks like a typical guy that goes to Thailand for p4p:

[lavidaloca]

As a heads up be very careful in places abroad where the laws stipulate above 18. Lots of girls will lie.

[caracal]

(04-09-2014 03:56 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:54 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

Not sure, but I know it's the only country to enforce their own laws outside of their own country. If you fuck anyone under 18 in a foreign country you can get charged in the States for doing so.

Australia also has this law. I think the age is 16.

[Teedub]

(04-11-2014 07:03 AM)caracal Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:56 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:54 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Isnt America one of the only countries with the 18 and up sex laws?

Not sure, but I know it's the only country to enforce their own laws outside of their own country. If you fuck anyone under 18 in a foreign country you can get charged in the States for doing so.

Australia also has this law. I think the age is 16.

Wait, so if an American has sex with a British girl who is 17, and the British AoC is 16....the guy can get done in America?