[Buddi]

Basically there's this girl I like, inb4 "RED FLAG" or "PUSSY ON PEDESTAL", my mind is more focused on Learning the guitar, reading and studying than her, and I also make sure I game other girls as it is salubrious for me, but god damn ! this woman does not leave her pack, and I'm not talking about your run of the mill "2 friends on the side" pack NOP, I'm talking about a 6 person wolf pack !. I am a beginner gamer so I needed to get some: vets,intermediates and fellow beginners to help me get her away from the group.

I need to separate her because I will never get her true opinion on a subject or her true response; I only ever get a response that she thinks her friends would not tease her for. The funny thing is the whole pack is as timid as each other so when they are all together in one big group they might as well be a: fused ,anxiety stricken, nervous ,shy ,obese girl(kinda like this: http://youtu.be/W3SWLdm0ygk)


This is all in a College/high-school type environment if that helps.

[TonySandos]

Strike up a conversation.

Swim through the stupid comments from acquaintances and friends toward you. I can promise there will be random excited commentary from the girls that think youre cute and like that you came up to her. There will also be haters that will try hard to throw you off or run you away. Just don't fall for the hype. I either look at a hater in the eye then continue without answering them or just don't care. Start lighter but flirty talk then wait for the excitement to die down and most of the friends that are hating to float away. The haters will end up making distance because you're stinking up the area to them lol. When the crowd dies down start getting intimate.

[spokepoker]

Instead of focusing on her, spread yourself among the group. I read some posts about group gaming, but I can't remember which threads they were in.
If you don't want to turn her into a LTR, you could always run dinner/comfort game with a smaller part of the group (two girls), then segue into a threesome as long as you keep everything easygoing and fun.

[TonySandos]

That sounds decent. I pulled a freaky young college chick with my strategy. I can vouch for it working. She mentioned liking whips and bdsm type things. That came off as an obvious beacon of horniness to me so I cosigned it and carried on with more conversation. You're aiming for that particular girl. I can tell you that you don't need to win a group over to be successful. It helps, if you actually care about their impression of you, for future interactions and that's it. Her focus is key. Play the volume or obtrusiveness of the group for your favor. Close the space between you. It can create a sensation of a bubble, induced by heavy eye contact, intimate questions, daring remarks.

Set a meet in that timeframe and continue drawing her in to amplify her intrigue. If that route is not appealing or you want to steal her away after this time, do so. Use a very specific reason to venture from the pack. If you reason is legitimate enough then no one can break your momentum. A classic trick from as far back as high school. You 'need' to introduce her to specific person, or group isn't conducive to the 'help' you're trying to provide. Use those ploys to validate if the group tries to intervene. Assert your reason for breaking away. If she assist you then you're making good headway. After you've made distance do a clownish comment to reset the interaction and distract her. Change the subject after this to something that you can direct into conversation that leads to you initiating a quicky or date.

[TheChef]

(04-06-2014 07:07 PM)Buddi Wrote:  

]and I'm not talking about your run of the mill "2 friends on the side" pack NOP, I'm talking about a 6 person wolf pack !

You see this a lot at bars / house parties. Realize that this girl may not be open to advances because of all the bros/girlfriends/cockblocks around her.

A golden rule of thumb to avoid this type of situation is to hit up girls in groups of two. They are often down to hang out and often if the other girl notices her friend is having a good time with you, she will politely excuse herself.

Still, I would just go with something easy like:
- Hey, I'm gonna grab a drink, come join me for it." Tell the group you'll bring her back soon. At this point get her number, return her and game her when you can hang out 1 on 1.

[Buddi]

(04-07-2014 01:43 AM)TheChef Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:07 PM)Buddi Wrote:  

]and I'm not talking about your run of the mill "2 friends on the side" pack NOP, I'm talking about a 6 person wolf pack !

You see this a lot at bars / house parties. Realize that this girl may not be open to advances because of all the bros/girlfriends/cockblocks around her.

A golden rule of thumb to avoid this type of situation is to hit up girls in groups of two. They are often down to hang out and often if the other girl notices her friend is having a good time with you, she will politely excuse herself.

Still, I would just go with something easy like:
- Hey, I'm gonna grab a drink, come join me for it." Tell the group you'll bring her back soon. At this point get her number, return her and game her when you can hang out 1 on 1.

Thank you, that seems like a very good approach because when she isn't in the wolf pack she often travels as part of a pair. I'll strike up a extraneous conversation exhibiting my "cheekiness" and mutual interests then I'll steal her away from the group .

[Noir]

I am gonna assume you're 17-19.

Find a stupid reason to talk to her and her group. Get some of your buddies in on it. Anything. Approach if she is on her own.

If you're in college or high school just get someone to introduce you. Get her whatsapp or facebook (it's instagram now?) details, wait a few days and add her. This worked well for me. I don't use instagram but you can take pics with her and post it on hers or yours. Chicks dig that shit especially the circlejerk herd girls. Brownie points.

We used to get bottle tables once a week and invite girls to drink with us. If we can't get a makeout due to our 'age' we just use our social circle and get them over. Then facebook game. 5 guys and 5 girls (usually 6-4) and split the bill and it worked fucking well. Do something similar/find the niche of your area.

If you're on a campus its a different (easier) story...

[TonySandos]

let us know if you're genuinely open to new avenues or looking for validation of recycled information. some of us have time better spent than giving only what was hoped for falling on the ears

[Buddi]

(04-07-2014 03:29 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

let us know if you're genuinely open to new avenues or looking for validation of recycled information. some of us have time better spent than giving only what was hoped for falling on the ears

Shit yeah, sorry man. I suppose it was quite rude of me not to thank you as well for the advice you gave me, but you have to realize I'm a beginner gamer, and a very young one at that; I need to juggle all your ideas so that I can find which one works best for me and what type of game I am best at.

[Buddi]

(04-07-2014 02:48 PM)Kikz Wrote:  

I am gonna assume you're 17-19.

Find a stupid reason to talk to her and her group. Get some of your buddies in on it. Anything. Approach if she is on her own.

If you're in college or high school just get someone to introduce you. Get her whatsapp or facebook (it's instagram now?) details, wait a few days and add her. This worked well for me. I don't use instagram but you can take pics with her and post it on hers or yours. Chicks dig that shit especially the circlejerk herd girls. Brownie points.

We used to get bottle tables once a week and invite girls to drink with us. If we can't get a makeout due to our 'age' we just use our social circle and get them over. Then facebook game. 5 guys and 5 girls (usually 6-4) and split the bill and it worked fucking well. Do something similar/find the niche of your area.

If you're on a campus its a different (easier) story...

I see what you mean; I need a wing-man or men for the first tactic but you must understand that my choice for wing-men are(in order or likability):
-A good female friend of mine.
- The female friend's best friend.
-The female friend's best friend's boyfriend (bad fucking idea because the girl I've set my eyes on used to be infatuated with him).
-Good friend who has a very severe case of oneitis and never got over his ex.
- An idiot whose as fluent in English as a 4 year old remedial student.
-A bipolar man ( prone to fits of idiocy).
- My favorite lecturer (pretty sure that is illegal).


2nd Para, yes the introduction seems plausible but alas, I am two years older than her, and whilst that may not seem like a large difference.......but as a famous, bearded, shaggy, haired man some you may know once said "English speaking countries are all about fucking age" *Warning this quote may not be word for word be it was along those lines*. She is also a ostensibly a pious christian which deletes the option of alcohol and sex. Tactics boys, women have a memory span of 7 years, I don't want to leave a bad impression and then have to wait damn near a decade to get a chance to "clap dem cheeks" again.

[TonySandos]

I'm just wondering if you're open to all tactics my friend. Aiming for a particular woman regardless of baseline attraction is formidable. The usual followers of this notion who repeat it frequently are not wrong. The most important factor on your side is not giving a damn, whether that pertains to her reaction or social repercussions. You have to play this round coolheaded to maximize chances of coming out victorious.

[Earth]

Depends on where you are. At night I can usually get her away without much trouble, depending on how many friends they have. During the day, it's much harder, I'm not sure I've extracted a girl from a group set during the day before..

[Buddi]

(04-07-2014 07:52 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I'm just wondering if you're open to all tactics my friend. Aiming for a particular woman regardless of baseline attraction is formidable. The usual followers of this notion who repeat it frequently are not wrong. The most important factor on your side is not giving a damn, whether that pertains to her reaction or social repercussions. You have to play this round coolheaded to maximize chances of coming out victorious.

Do not worry friend I've created a script of what I'll do:
-Strike up convo with her and friend.
-Be exceptionally interesting and charming.
- Make up a bullshit reason to leave the current location.
-Take them on a trip around the school to wear them down and close down their bitch shields; like I said these are timid and cautious girls, but...they have a tendency to be rebellious. I think I can tempt them .

Do you and anyone else have an approach that might be better or are there any cracks in my game plan.Thanks.

[Cyclone]

(04-09-2014 08:07 AM)Buddi Wrote:  

Do not worry friend I've created a script of what I'll do:
-Be exceptionally interesting and charming.

Thats an amazing script


But in all seriousness, this is not hard at all. you do what you always do to meet a girl in isolation in the future - find a common interest, that ONLY you and her have, and make plans/attend event that revolves around that interest. i.e. a few days ago opened a girl that appeared to be into wine (considering she had a bottle with her at the school library) and so told her about some wine events going on, so let's go. Please tell me you at least have her #?
.

[Noah]

My go to isolation move is to invite the girl to get a drink with me. Gmanifesto has written about this many times. It's also a good way to gauge her buying temperature, if she agrees to leave her friends you know she's at least somewhat interested.

[Buddi]

(04-09-2014 08:38 AM)Noah Wrote:  

My go to isolation move is to invite the girl to get a drink with me. Gmanifesto has written about this many times. It's also a good way to gauge her buying temperature, if she agrees to leave her friends you know she's at least somewhat interested.

She can't drink. She's underage+somewhat pious.

[Noah]

(04-09-2014 02:23 PM)Buddi Wrote:  

She can't drink. She's underage+somewhat pious.

Got it, but keep that advice in mind for future situations when alcohol is involved.

[Buddi]

(04-09-2014 08:37 AM)Cyclone Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 08:07 AM)Buddi Wrote:  

Do not worry friend I've created a script of what I'll do:
-Be exceptionally interesting and charming.

Thats an amazing script


But in all seriousness, this is not hard at all. you do what you always do to meet a girl in isolation in the future - find a common interest, that ONLY you and her have, and make plans/attend event that revolves around that interest. i.e. a few days ago opened a girl that appeared to be into wine (considering she had a bottle with her at the school library) and so told her about some wine events going on, so let's go. Please tell me you at least have her #?
.

That is quite smart, and considering I have her fb I can scoop out her interests and fake knowledge on the subject.
Me: I found out about this cool indie artist yesterday
Friend: Who ?
Me: (insert pseudo-intellectual hipster artist that she likes here)
Friend: who that hell is that ?
Me: Seriously not one person in this institute listens to good music.
Her: I do.
BAM I make her confront me first.

Also I need you guys to poke holes in my methods so that I can further develop them.

[Buddi]

(04-10-2014 11:04 AM)Buddi Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 08:37 AM)Cyclone Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 08:07 AM)Buddi Wrote:  

Do not worry friend I've created a script of what I'll do:
-Be exceptionally interesting and charming.

Thats an amazing script


But in all seriousness, this is not hard at all. you do what you always do to meet a girl in isolation in the future - find a common interest, that ONLY you and her have, and make plans/attend event that revolves around that interest. i.e. a few days ago opened a girl that appeared to be into wine (considering she had a bottle with her at the school library) and so told her about some wine events going on, so let's go. Please tell me you at least have her #?
.

That is quite smart, and considering I have her fb I can scoop out her interests and fake knowledge on the subject.
Me: I found out about this cool indie artist yesterday
Friend: Who ?
Me: (insert pseudo-intellectual hipster artist that she likes here)
Friend: who that hell is that ?
Me: Seriously not one person in this institute listens to good music.
Her: I do.
BAM I make her confront me first.

Also I need you guys to poke holes in my methods so that I can further develop them.

Also I discovered some more information from her fb she likes a certain video game and I now know her Alma mater. I want to open with the video game one because I can easily relate and build rapport quickly....but she may have put that there just to fill space.

[spokepoker]

Instead of confronting with knowledge you gathered, you need to let her tell you all that stuff. Ask her general questions that she'll use to wow you with her knowledge about this and that. This lets her ramble on, to become more comfortable with you, and form some bullshit girl connection with you. Get to know her friends too, if you dick her well enough, she'll tell them. Then you can have more fun. Eventually you can get a threesome.
Throw a party, invite the whole group, and other people. There doesn't have to be alcohol, and everything is easier in casual settings.

[Buddi]

I have a bad feeling about this one.

[Buddi]

(04-11-2014 07:20 PM)Buddi Wrote:  

I have a bad feeling about this one.

Bump