[Samseau]

Great race troll thread

[Lika]

(03-28-2014 12:31 PM)mikado Wrote:  

These kind of people are the first to say they are open-minded, not agressive, etc etc, then typically get pissed when they see a non white dude make out with some white HB in front of their eyes

You're directing this towards white men but as a white man having travelled a lot around the world and having banged chicks from most races and cultures, I have to say that this is a universal thing:

Anybody from any race does not like to see a man from another race with a BEAUTIFUL girl from his own race...

The only difference is how people react to it, more or less openly. And in my experience, Western European whites are the ones that react with the least possessiveness and jealousy about it.

The worse are Indians/Pakistanese/Arabs/Turks and then Ethiopians/Somalis/Sudanese, black American men, etc. etc.

[Avon Barksdale]

^I can't speak for the other races you mentioned but, black American men don't really care , were to busy fucking with spanish/white girls.

[mikado]

(03-28-2014 12:38 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:31 PM)mikado Wrote:  

These kind of people are the first to say they are open-minded, not agressive, etc etc, then typically get pissed when they see a non white dude make out with some white HB in front of their eyes. They would like to travel to all countries, get all the flags possible on Earth, then get mad that other people come to their own country to earn a living, and pick up "THEIR" chicks.

It's called self-interest. Why does it surprise you? Actively supporting a system that goes against your interests is called being a useful idiot.

Then why are you giving advice to people on this forum ( I am supposed you did at least once), including the minority people ? For all you know, many of them could be milking the system to death, "stealing" yo women, getting promoted because they are minorities, you know?
Or maybe we should indicate our race, job and level of help from government in our profile so that you'd know who you are dealing with?

Sorry about hurting your interests, mister. For me, everyone here is on the same scale. I have better shit to do than complain about white people abusing their priviledge, not getting a job because of the color of my skin , and other bullshit. I prefer working on my own issues, get better on myself, and pass my will for personal change to the higher number of people I do know.

@ Avon Barksdale
Being from West Africa , I can tell you most of the black people from there don't really care. Actually, often the non black guy is just ridiculed a bit when he tries to follow some african traditions, because he just don't have a clue about what it means. But it is not really serious, and no one truly cares.
@ Lika

Actually, my conclusion would be that the western european whites are the LEAST likely to express frontally their disapproval. They will fake a smile, preach diversity , but don't be fooled: inside their hearts, most of them are burning from rage.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(03-28-2014 12:31 PM)mikado Wrote:  

Sometimes I feel like most of you here intend the manosphere to be for white people only.
Between countless rants on how immigrants have it easy, followed with the constant lamentations on how the white males are victims, I start to get really bored of it. This is personnified in the Ali meltdown thread.
How about stopping your hamsterizing?
You just don't know how is it to live in a minority's skin. You don't know how hard/easy it is when you are an inmigrant, trying to live in a foreign country to sustain your family, or just suck off the system.

and this is what I was trying to say in my posts on Ali's meltdown thread. shit is not easy for everybody. everybody has their own challenges. if only some of the white guys here on RVF would know what sort of shit I talk with Mexican men talk about at work with how much easier they have it to get better jobs than the Mexican migrants because they speak english and are born in the US. grass is greener mentality.

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I only need to check the Athlone's ROK article on black men to see it. So many so-called white manospherians who took the opportunity to express their racist views , yet they pretend we are brothers when another article comes out, directed this time to all men.

unfortunately, this is the mentality of Anglos; pretending to be your friend but really, fucking you over. not all Anglos have this shit (thank goodness) but too many have it to the point where I have to be extra careful with the guys I let in my social circles here in the US; being more cautious than if I was in Mexico.

I will be honest though about Black-Americans; blacks in the US have fucked themselves over with the ghetto and victim mentality. thank goodness the blacks here on RVF don't have those two mentalities and acknowledge them but it's what usually pisses off non blacks in the US. that's usually the biggest complaint I get from other latin americans who live in the US. it might be the same with dudes in the manosphere, idk.

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These kind of people are the first to say they are open-minded, not agressive, etc etc, then typically get pissed when they see a non white dude make out with some white HB in front of their eyes. They would like to travel to all countries, get all the flags possible on Earth, then get mad that other people come to their own country to earn a living, and pick up "THEIR" chicks.

you got to relax with the manosphere. the manosphere has some bright spots but it also has dark sports. MRAs and MGTOWs are the dark spots in my opinion because all they do is consistently bitch like women and never do anything unlike even their feminist counterparts, which go off on the streets to protest for stupid crap. just ignore the idiots who write stupid shit. it's what I do. I have seen so many stupid shit written here on RVF but I don't go off because I don't want to cause big flame wars over stupid mundane crap. and also, the bright spots of RVF cheer me up to and outweigh the dark spots of RVF.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(03-28-2014 12:52 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

^I can't speak for the other races you mentioned but, black American men don't really care , were to busy fucking with spanish/white girls.

latin americans aren't spaniards.........

[Hotwheels]

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(03-28-2014 12:49 PM)Lika Wrote:  

The worse are Indians/Pakistanese/Arabs/Turks and then Ethiopians/Somalis/Sudanese, black American men, etc. etc.

to be frank, I have seen too many black-american guys get pissed with seeing their chicks with white guys. but yet again, I could care less as I am not attracted to black-american women due to their unhealthy attitudes and their constant self destructive anti-intellectualism.

[Avon Barksdale]

(03-28-2014 01:00 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:52 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

^I can't speak for the other races you mentioned but, black American men don't really care , were to busy fucking with spanish/white girls.

latin americans aren't spaniards.........

I never said spaniards. I mean't hispanic. it was a goof chill,I know the difference.

[Deuce Anna Half]

(03-28-2014 12:31 PM)mikado Wrote:  

Sometimes I feel like most of you here intend the manosphere to be for white people only.
Between countless rants on how immigrants have it easy, followed with the constant lamentations on how the white males are victims, I start to get really bored of it. This is personnified in the Ali meltdown thread.
How about stopping your hamsterizing?
You just don't know how is it to live in a minority's skin. You don't know how hard/easy it is when you are an inmigrant, trying to live in a foreign country to sustain your family, or just suck off the system.

I only need to check the Athlone's ROK article on black men to see it. So many so-called white manospherians who took the opportunity to express their racist views , yet they pretend we are brothers when another article comes out, directed this time to all men.
These kind of people are the first to say they are open-minded, not agressive, etc etc, then typically get pissed when they see a non white dude make out with some white HB in front of their eyes. They would like to travel to all countries, get all the flags possible on Earth, then get mad that other people come to their own country to earn a living, and pick up "THEIR" chicks.

Roosh already touched on this last year.

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The manosphere used to be full of Biggies and Tupacs—now everyone is tripping over themselves to be Drake, blogging and commenting in the hopes they may get laid. (I apologize in advance to the large number of neo-Nazis in the manosphere for comparing them to a man of non-Aryan race.)It’s hard for me to accept that the manosphere is well on its way to becoming a match.com for old people who hate blacks.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-manosphere-is-lost

[Sharky Jackson]

(03-28-2014 12:38 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

It's called self-interest. Why does it surprise you? Actively supporting a system that goes against your interests is called being a useful idiot.

It's called being a hater.

Race victimhood is for the weak. I've never, ever, met an alpha that cared about race. Every guy I've ever met who got butthurt about "our" women with "them" has always been a weak gameless beta mad cuz he can't pull.

Success breeds confidence, failure insecurity. Winners don't hate.

[Hotwheels]

(03-28-2014 01:06 PM)Sharky Jackson Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:38 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

It's called self-interest. Why does it surprise you? Actively supporting a system that goes against your interests is called being a useful idiot.

It's called being a hater.

Race victimhood is for the weak. I've never, ever, met an alpha that cared about race. Every guy I've ever met who got butthurt about "our" women with "them" has always been a weak gameless beta mad cuz he can't pull.

Success breeds confidence, failure insecurity. Winners don't hate.

Believe it or not, I don't base my opinions on who's fucking who.

Just another example of pussy first mentality...

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(03-28-2014 01:06 PM)Sharky Jackson Wrote:  

Success breeds confidence, failure insecurity. Winners don't hate.

this is absolutely true. the men who I know who are the most insecure with women tend to be the ones who consistently fail. but then again, those type, nobody wants to be around because they aren't interesting and cool people at all. they are boring, annoying, and useless.

[darklightdispatch]

(03-28-2014 12:31 PM)mikado Wrote:  

Sometimes I feel like most of you here intend the manosphere to be for white people only.
Between countless rants on how immigrants have it easy, followed with the constant lamentations on how the white males are victims, I start to get really bored of it. This is personnified in the Ali meltdown thread.
How about stopping your hamsterizing?
You just don't know how is it to live in a minority's skin. You don't know how hard/easy it is when you are an inmigrant, trying to live in a foreign country to sustain your family, or just suck off the system.

I only need to check the Athlone's ROK article on black men to see it. So many so-called white manospherians who took the opportunity to express their racist views , yet they pretend we are brothers when another article comes out, directed this time to all men.
These kind of people are the first to say they are open-minded, not agressive, etc etc, then typically get pissed when they see a non white dude make out with some white HB in front of their eyes. They would like to travel to all countries, get all the flags possible on Earth, then get mad that other people come to their own country to earn a living, and pick up "THEIR" chicks.

White people are told that we have to be "color blind." Every other race is celebrated for embracing its heritage. White people aren't allowed to be proud of their race in the U.S. or other historically white countries. Casual insults directed towards white people are 100% socially acceptable and whites are taught to be self-deprecating towards their race. Even mild negative words directed towards other races are literally a serious crime in much of Europe.

The ancestors of white people conquered much of the world and created many of its most prosperous and advanced societies. Yes, the heirs of those men and women feel entitled to what they took and created. Instead, we're told that every formerly white nation needs more "diversity." Does China need more diversity? Ethiopia? Saudi Arabia?

Priviledge is a good thing. Privilege is fundamental to building civilizations. If a man's kids aren't privileged by his hard work and financial success, he's much less likely to bother doing any more than the bare minimum. If everyone is equal and everything is reset/starts fresh with each new generation, there's very little incentive to do difficult, new, or significant things.

Should Japanese people be privileged in Japan? Should Mexicans be privileged in Mexico? Of course. White people are constantly told that they shouldn't be privileged...anywhere.

[tawillionaire]

Supposedly porn stars in America who get banged by black guys lose value in the industry. Kanye had a lyric about it:

http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-hell-of-...note-66019

Not sure how relevant this is to the current conversation but I think it's interesting that this isn't just a Nazi thing. Personally I couldn't give a fuck either way.

[darklightdispatch]

(03-28-2014 01:06 PM)Sharky Jackson Wrote:  

It's called being a hater.

Race victimhood is for the weak. I've never, ever, met an alpha that cared about race. Every guy I've ever met who got butthurt about "our" women with "them" has always been a weak gameless beta mad cuz he can't pull.

Success breeds confidence, failure insecurity. Winners don't hate.

This is true, the man at the top of the pile isn't likely to care about this stuff. A world of maximum variety and lack of sharply-defined boundaries is ideal if you can do whatever you want within (and slightly beyond) the bounds of social custom. That isn't realistic for most people, though. Plus, a society where everyone lives like he's in the Rat Pack is going to have some big problems.

Regardless, though, it's definitely the way to go on the individual level.

[samsamsam]

(03-28-2014 12:38 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:31 PM)mikado Wrote:  

These kind of people are the first to say they are open-minded, not agressive, etc etc, then typically get pissed when they see a non white dude make out with some white HB in front of their eyes. They would like to travel to all countries, get all the flags possible on Earth, then get mad that other people come to their own country to earn a living, and pick up "THEIR" chicks.

It's called self-interest. Why does it surprise you? Actively supporting a system that goes against your interests is called being a useful idiot.

I think sometimes we must go against our own good for the common good. It could be a work situation or social, or whatever. Now granted my personality type falls into a small percentage of the population so it makes sense to me naturally to work on the common good.

And I don't mean for this to come out the wrong way, but some people are able to see this and some people are not. I don't think it is bad, it is just the way it is.

But if anyone here believes in the "my way or the highway mentality" and can never see an instance in which maybe a little sacrifice on his own part can create an outsized common good return, then maybe it would be appropriate to see how you interact with the world and what results you are getting in your life.

[Icarus]

(03-28-2014 02:24 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

I think sometimes we must go against our own good for the common good. It could be a work situation or social, whatever.

Sure! But whose common good? My tribe's? Or some other tribe's?

Xenophobia is a tribe's immune system at work.

Since everyone will eventually die, and since mortality is an extremely unpleasant fact of life, people come up with different "religions" to cope with it. "Carpe Diem" is one such religion, and one particularly popular on RVF, although Roosh has warned us all of the dangers and limitations of hedonism. Another religion is worshiping one's ancestors, which leads to things like nationalism and racialism (which is different from racism).

All these feelings come naturally to people who live in the same land of their distant ancestors, and if many Americans cannot understand these "irrational" feelings it is because the U.S. is a country of immigrants. When you live in the same place where your ancestors have lived for over 1,000 years, you see things differently.

All religions come from the unpleasantness of one's mortality. People like Hitler, Gandhi, and even Steve Jobs understood this very well. Charismatic leaders often get their power by acting as "priests".

[BortimusPrime]

It's funny that people still buy into the jungle fever myth anyways. Didn't okcupid do a study with all their data that showed that, excepting asians, women had a much higher preference for dating within their own race? As far as the "being tainted by banging a black guy" goes, I'd bet that has more to do with unconscious association of blacks with the underclasses. Think about it this way: which would give you a more negative opinion of a girl, banging a wigger vs. banging Captain Sisko?

Incidentally, it's funny how in deep space nine they only let the black characters date other blacks, even to the point of making black aliens.

[Sharky Jackson]

(03-28-2014 02:58 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

Incidentally, it's funny how in deep space nine they only let the black characters date other blacks, even to the point of making black aliens.

Umm....

[Duke Castile]

I think most productive white people, especially on this forum, hold the same disdain for white trash welfare recipients that they do for other races. They may also disapprove of the additional benefits these people receive by virtue of being a minority but that also seems to be to scale.

I honestly don't generally like anyone but you have to be blind not to look at the world around you and see which countries/races have prospered and which ones are complete shit holes.

It's always the guys that are saying "i dont have time to be a hater" then they write a bunch of shit talking about the same things they claim NOT to be bitching about.

The subject here is some piece of trash whore that fucked a black guy and got fired.

Considering the source, we have no idea how accurate the story is.

But that doesn't stop the race trolls from coming out of the woodwork.

I often read/hear about how a white man can't know what it's like to be a minority.

Well actually, I can observe the world around me. In America at least, minorities and women have it made.

Why shouldn't I be irritated?

I saw a meme the other day, said something like "ever notice how everyone knows social security can't be funded after a certain point and its a crisis but no one ever talks about how welfare can't be funded?"

Pretty much sums it up.
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Here's a thought experiment, just imagine that white people were *poof* gone. Never existed.

Good luck living in that world for very long.

[Sharky Jackson]

(03-28-2014 03:05 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

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Here's a thought experiment, just imagine that white people were *poof* gone. Never existed.

If there had been no Black Africans, there would have been no whites to begin with.

So imagine a world where Blacks never existed: a world with no humans.

[Duke Castile]

Way to be obtuse. That's not the point at all.

[Samseau]

(03-28-2014 03:08 PM)Sharky Jackson Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 03:05 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

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Here's a thought experiment, just imagine that white people were *poof* gone. Never existed.

If there had been no Black Africans, there would have been no whites to begin with.

So imagine a world where Blacks never existed: a world with no humans.

Not true at all. The "back to Africa" theory has been discredited just recently with the discovery of humans in Great Britian dating back over 1 million years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc...14151.html

Thus the real history is that humanity is MUCH older than most people suspect it is, and the races of humanity probably are several million years old as well.

For all we know, whites and blacks have been having race troll arguments for millions of years.

[Sharky Jackson]

(03-28-2014 03:09 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Way to be obtuse. That's not the point at all.

You're attempting to assign a linear value analysis to race, that is the basis of your hypothesis. I'm saying that everyone has contributed in one way or another, so a linear paradigm is incongruent with the structure of racial interactions.

For history to land us where we are, a great many peoples cast logs onto the fire of time. Take away any of those logs and you get a different fire. Assuming one log of the many has some special property that led inexorably to this outcome is nothing short of self serving racial hubris.

Race is a social construct, and a clusterfuck at that. Individuals make the world.