[Mike5055]

"You're a white man so you can't understand."

Hahaha that girl is a fool and a racist.

[bluejun]

From my perspective, I understand that it was only satire but the use of such vulgar words was unnecessary to make a point. To Asians, the term ching chong is equivalent of the N**** word for black people. You just don't use that word no matter what in public as it is considered highly obscene to many. The only people that's defending Colbert's satire is probably white people, but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

[scorpion]

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

I am being a bit liberal here but this has nothing to do with the freedom of speech. From my perspective, I understand that it was only satire but the use of such vulgar words was unnecessary to make a point. To Asians, the term ching chong is equivalent of the N**** word for black people. You just don't use that word no matter what in public as it is considered highly obscene to many. The only people that's defending Colbert's satire is probably white people, but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Couldn't understand your post, this is all I got:

[bluejun]

You sound like some disgruntled white dude. Want a cookie?

(04-01-2014 12:55 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

I am being a bit liberal here but this has nothing to do with the freedom of speech. From my perspective, I understand that it was only satire but the use of such vulgar words was unnecessary to make a point. To Asians, the term ching chong is equivalent of the N**** word for black people. You just don't use that word no matter what in public as it is considered highly obscene to many. The only people that's defending Colbert's satire is probably white people, but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Couldn't understand your post, this is all I got:

[Tail Gunner]

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Sorry, but I will not let other groups dictate what I say or what I think.

Historically derogatory words that everyone knows are foul and demeaning are one thing (e.g., the N-word), but allowing groups to create a constantly evolving list of newly offensive words and phrases is quite another. That is an attempt to exert power and control over others -- and to squash free speech.

[scorpion]

(04-01-2014 01:22 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

You sound like some disgruntled white dude. Want a cookie?

One of these maybe?

[bluejun]

I agree you on that free speech should be protected. But no one tells you what words and expressions not to use either. There are always repercussions to follow if you decide to offend any particular group in public. Fair enough, you are more than welcome to deal with them if you insist on using derogatory words to offend people.

(04-01-2014 02:24 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Sorry, but I will not let other groups dictate what I say or what I think.

Historically derogatory words that everyone knows are foul and demeaning are one thing (e.g., the N-word), but allowing groups to create a constantly evolving list of newly offensive words and phrases is quite another. That is an attempt to exert power and control over others -- and to squash free speech.

[Tail Gunner]

(04-01-2014 02:54 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

Fair enough, you are more than welcome to deal with them if you insist on using derogatory words to offend people.

Therein lies the issue. Who gets to decide which words are derogatory?

I have no problem with shaming people for using historically derogatory words to abuse other groups of people. Everyone knows those words.

But allowing race baiters to create a constantly evolving list of newly offensive words to punish their political opponents? Forget that.

[Aer]

(04-01-2014 02:54 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

I agree you on that free speech should be protected. But no one tells you what words and expressions not to use either. There are always repercussions to follow if you decide to offend any particular group in public. Fair enough, you are more than welcome to deal with them if you insist on using derogatory words to offend people.

(04-01-2014 02:24 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Sorry, but I will not let other groups dictate what I say or what I think.

Historically derogatory words that everyone knows are foul and demeaning are one thing (e.g., the N-word), but allowing groups to create a constantly evolving list of newly offensive words and phrases is quite another. That is an attempt to exert power and control over others -- and to squash free speech.

Nigga please

[draguer]

Efforts to restrict people's freedom of expression don't go down too well around here. You can even call me a honky if you like.

[Dagnasty]

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

From my perspective, I understand that it was only satire but the use of such vulgar words was unnecessary to make a point. To Asians, the term ching chong is equivalent of the N**** word for black people. You just don't use that word no matter what in public as it is considered highly obscene to many. The only people that's defending Colbert's satire is probably white people, but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Black guy in Asia here - "ching chong" is nowhere near as intense as the word "nigger" - that's nowhere near true.

请? "Ching" can actually mean "please"... =/

Carry on.

[bluejun]

I've done some volunteer work in Africa and the word nigger isn't much of a deal there either. It's just the way people use Nigger or Ching chong in America has a different context and intention.

(04-01-2014 11:12 PM)Dagnasty Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

From my perspective, I understand that it was only satire but the use of such vulgar words was unnecessary to make a point. To Asians, the term ching chong is equivalent of the N**** word for black people. You just don't use that word no matter what in public as it is considered highly obscene to many. The only people that's defending Colbert's satire is probably white people, but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

Black guy in Asia here - "ching chong" is nowhere near as intense as the word "nigger" - your post is bullshit.

Carry on.

[2Wycked]

Suey Park is back!

Some choice quotes from her:

Quote:

So it’s always this logic of how can we understand whiteness better, and that’s never been my politics. I’ve always been about occupying the margins and strengthening the margins and what that means is that, for a long time, whiteness has also occupied the margins. Like, people of color get in circles with no white people in the room and we see that whiteness still operates. So I think it’s kind of a shock for America that whiteness has dominant society already, it also seeps into the margins. What happens the one time when the margins seep into the whiteness and we encroach on their space? It’s like the sky is falling.

She goes on after being asked if white people can joke about race:

Quote:

And so, I think in that sense, it’s Colbert that lacks context. It’s Colbert that doesn’t realize how he’s using racism as a vehicle to end racism, which is really just circular logic and doesn’t lead to an end destination of liberation, so I think if you are going to do it, you can’t draw parallels. Orientalism and genocide are actually not relative or comparable in social location. They’re not comparative in social location. They’re relative, which means that the logic behind colonialism is a very different logic than Orientalism, which is a very different logic than anti-blackness, and that means to uproot anti-blackness, colonialism and Orientalism you need to uproot the logic that’s been occupied. And so it is not a successful way to uproot colonialism by using the tools and the tricks and the metaphor of Orientalism. It actually isn’t a [sic] accurate portrayal of history or of our current situation in understanding those three pillars of white supremacy.

Quote:

What is the best way to work with white people, to get them on our side?

I don’t want them on our side.

Against dichotomies, but frames racial issues as PoC v. Whites.

Literally cannot get the word white out of her mouth. I wonder what race of men she greatly prefers?

Takes Critical Race Theory to its ridiculous extremes, showing how it simultaneously doesn't understand power and is hopelessly self-absorbed.

Calls herself a comedian, a writer and an activist but obviously isn't funny nor understands humor and also bitches about educating whites. Why are you an activist if you can't even be bothered to explain your ideological positions. However, she doesn't even consider her personal beliefs to be, in fact, ideological? She treats any "insight," observation or political desire to be grounded in irrefutable fact.

I fear for the future of this country.

[Chewbacon]

I one hundred percent guarantee you this girl does not date asian guys and generally prefers white cocks.

It's always the "counter cultural/post-modern" asian girls who have a bit of that self-loathing inside of them.

[Chewbacon]

As an asian, i don't think "ching chong ding dong" is considered nearly as offensive as "n****".

I think the asian equivalent would be "chink".

[TonySandos]

Well written article by a clever black Harvard graduate (likely to be dismissed as whiteness operating within poc circles) on Suey Park and Mia Mckenzie's common tactics. This guy breaks down their phrasing and uses p.c. speech to refute them. Amazing in my opinion.

http://harvardpolitics.com/books-arts/wh...s=og.likes

[Quintus Curtius]

(04-01-2014 11:06 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

If she feels oppressed by living in a country founded by slave-owning white men, maybe she should move back to her ancestral homeland.

Another example of the unsustainability of multiculturalism. She surely has no issue with the vast amount of wealth and the tremendously advantaged lifestyle that the labors of white men past and present have afforded her, and yet she still harbors a stinging hatred and resentment for them.

Interesting thought experiment...lol.

If she moved back to her ancestral homeland, she'd likely be laying wreaths and garlands at the foot of a huge bronze statue of Kim Il Sung, or goose-stepping in unison to the sounds of martial music blared from tinny loudspeakers.

She would also be living on less than 1000 calories per day, which would take some of the pudginess our of those rosy cheeks, and change her menstrual cycle to something more akin to a Third World pauper.

But, unfortunately, she has to suffer here in this American hell, having to listen to mean and nasty comments that appear on glowing computer screens. Isn't life difficult?

[Mike5055]

Suey Park is just rude and a racist. Her language is filled with buzzwords and rhetoric. It's easy to pitch to simple-minded people because they never stop to think about what's actually being said.

[darklightdispatch]

(04-01-2014 12:50 PM)bluejun Wrote:  

From my perspective, I understand that it was only satire but the use of such vulgar words was unnecessary to make a point. To Asians, the term ching chong is equivalent of the N**** word for black people. You just don't use that word no matter what in public as it is considered highly obscene to many. The only people that's defending Colbert's satire is probably white people, but seriously white people don't define what's offensive to Asians and Blacks.

In your case, the "male feminist" title under your name is 100% accurate. That posts reads like it was cribbed verbatim from some identity politics 101 flyer.

[darklightdispatch]

(04-08-2014 10:28 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  

Suey Park is just rude and a racist. Her language is filled with buzzwords and rhetoric. It's easy to pitch to simple-minded people because they never stop to think about what's actually being said.

There's something particularly distasteful when Asians take-on the whole multiculturalism/social justice warrior thing. Asian countries are notable for being both modern/prosperous while, mercifully, rejecting multiculturalism. You expect that shit from white girls, but its disheartening when Asians here take up the cultural marxist party line.

[heavy]

(03-27-2014 11:12 PM)chambs88 Wrote:  

If it's on TV, there's a 99% chance it's not even worth your thought.

It's just there to distract.

Yep. They made news, and more people will pay attention to Colbert now. Fuck I already fell into the trap by posting this comment. Dammit.

[Muk]

(04-01-2014 10:57 AM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 08:04 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I love it when Asian Americans try and identify with "marginalized minorities".

She does realize that asians take up a radically disproportionate percentage of the UC system right? If they were being discriminated against, you think think they wouldn't be half of the student body...

Oh yeah, Asians also have a very high average income per household.

She can't take a joke, literally.

What a dumb bitch.

Yeah, but Asian Americans have a very high average income per household for a reason. They work and study hard to the extent of it being stereotypical, it's in their subculture as a collective. Most engineering programs in universities would collapse without them, and that's where the majority of them are enrolled, as well as STEM and business to a lesser degree.

Are they supposed to just go on welfare instead of starting up businesses instead of having a work ethic and start killing each other? Would that give them political correctness immunity in your view?

Yeah...and what's your point? He said asians are doing well, and then you agree and add that there is a reason for it. but the "reason for it" isn't up for debate. The fact is that they aren't discriminated against. at all.

[Collide]

Asians get hit hardest when schools have Affirmative Action in place.




Having said that, Suey Park wouldn't dare touch Affirmative Action because she'd have to admit that the most privileged groups are blacks and hispanics, which doesn't fit her narrative of "smashing white privilege".

[darklightdispatch]

(04-08-2014 05:49 PM)Collide Wrote:  

Asians get hit hardest when schools have Affirmative Action in place.




Having said that, Suey Park wouldn't dare touch Affirmative Action because she'd have to admit that the most privileged groups are blacks and hispanics, which doesn't fit her narrative of "smashing white privilege".

That graph shows how absolutely insane and downright reckless affirmative action is. When it's English lit and womens studies degrees, who really cares, but letting less qualified people into med school is just irresponsible. Considering what lower standards they're held to, it's totally reasonable to avoid black (and Hispanic) doctors.

For Asians to be leftist in the U.S. is extremely self-defeating and just plain idiotic. I guess it lends credence to the idea that they are particularly conformist by nature. They sense that cultural marxism is the most socially acceptable way of thinking right now, so they go along with it because it's popular. The content of the ideology is secondary.

Asians, being overwhelming smart and hard-working, benefit the least and are hurt the most by welfare state/equalist government policies. From affirmative action to section 8 housing (bringing criminals into affluent neighborhoods) to higher taxes, EVERYTHING leftist is particularly bad for Asians as a group.

[TonySandos]

"Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, " I......don't like conflict". You are a high value target as well."

-Dorner manifesto

Asians have gained a reputation for being seen like this. It's unfortunate and I hope not a continuing stereotype for them.