[spinaroonie]

Most younger girls today have the attention span of a fruitfly, and more demands on their attention than ever before. In such an environment, developing a genuine rapport with a girl whom you just met can seem daunting.

Having said that, I believe the power of building rapport over the PHONE is vastly underestimated. It’s funny to read guys here still crowing about getting numbers like it's the 90s. Fellas, numbers mean nothing. Girls today give out their number like candy on Halloween. How many of those numbers are translating to dates and lays?

Most guys will pull a number and play a bunch of little text games, then act surprised when she invariably loses interest and flakes. Fellas, she's playing the same text games with 20 other guys she's met at the clubs and reveling in the attention.

Pick up the phone and call. If she won't pick up, text and schedule a time for "a quick chat". In today's hyper-stimulated environment, having an old school 30 minute phone conversation is effectively like having a Day 2. Moreover, when you're texting/IM'ing she could be multitasking a million things at once. When she's on the phone, she has to effectively dedicate and invest ALL her attention to you - a Herculean feat for most younger girls today.

A genuine bond can develop through the phone. This is especially true today as most guys today don't call, and girls today are seldom used to talking to guys on the phone. Girls will say they fall in love a man's voice; I've yet to hear of a girl fall in love with a man's texting skills.

Be a suave lothario and set yourself apart from all her texting/Facebooking chump orbiters. Pick up the phone and call her.

[FretDancer]

(01-13-2011 11:41 AM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

Girls will say they fall in love a man's voice; I've yet to hear of a girl fall in love with a man's texting skills.

I've been told quite a few times that my voice is very sexy over the phone. So thats definitely a plus.


Anyways, a great post with great points to consider. I think most guys are afraid to call because they might portray themselves as needy to the girl, or they have pretty good success with TXT game and prefer that not to change.

I also believe that the quality of the playfulness in a phone conversation will never be compared to that of texting.

I do call, but mostly only to girls I really like, in other words girls I'd consider having a relationship with.

[raliv]

I am starting to call more and text less. Texting is becoming oversaturated in my humble opinion. Machete don't have time to text back and forth. Machete too busy boning bitches.

[Kickb]

Hmm im not sure what to talk about over the phone.

[Nonpareil]

If your game is average or below, the girl is younger (<23), goes to school, doesn't work full time, you haven't yet banged her or gone out with her and don't care if you do or not and she's showing some interest but you can see that she isn't totally sold, text. Fucking up a phone call is fairly easy, fucking up a text is almost an impossibility.

If your game is above average, the girl has a full-time job and responsibilities, you've seen her naked before, you actually could see yourself dating her and she's not the type to play dumbshit games, call. Calling shows you're confident and mean business.

Basically an early stage-late stage, immature girl-mature girl thing.

These aren't my hard and fast rules, since I've been finding that the better I get, the more I tend to call and the less I'm texting. The month before I got my plan I sent over 470 texts, last month (by my estimate) I sent about 80.

[FretDancer]

(01-14-2011 01:11 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  

Hmm im not sure what to talk about over the phone.

First minutes of conversation usually begin with questions, "hey how are you?", "what you doing?", "what you up to".

Then just hit it off from the material she gives you as an answer. Be playful and make her laugh.

If you feel you're running out of "material" then just say you got stuff to do and hang up, but will call later/other day.

[Quasi]

Phone is THE shit.. its so powerfull..dudes that vote for texting instead are pureblood noobs.. except those cases where you know she is so retarded that texting might be best..
Ive started experimenting with phonesex.. ammusing opens the girls up so much for the next meeting and get her dripping wet about you... plus you can TOTALLY dominate her... she will just be moaning on the phone.. fantasizing about you..

[AlphaQup2nite]

It is simple. Texting is one of the most disconnected forms of communication. Its too easy to pull yourself away from everything as not real. At least on the phone there is a voice connected to a real person. With a text, there is nothing identifying the sender other then a number. Its hard to build trust, connections or anything on such an impersonal means of communication.

The only texting i do is handling addresses for meet ups and if someone is running late. I also dont accept cancling of plans over txt. People will flake if they can text, if you make them call you, they are much less likely to flake. I

[CJ]

(01-13-2011 11:41 AM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

Pick up the phone and call. If she won't pick up, text and schedule a time for "a quick chat".

Wow MORE great advice from Spin ... so you want me to reward a girl for not answering or returning a simple call, by sending her a text too? Could you be any more beta?

Right now texting is the right way to go, I'm not saying that won't change in the future, I'm saying what the situation is in the present. If you can't stand out from the "20 other guys" texting her, then the issue is in your text game.

IMO, you shouldn't even be talking on the phone with a girl you're interested in until you've banged her.

[spinaroonie]

OK chief, show us some solid text game you've used.

[speakeasy]

(01-20-2011 01:58 AM)AlphaQup2nite Wrote:  

It is simple. Texting is one of the most disconnected forms of communication. Its too easy to pull yourself away from everything as not real. At least on the phone there is a voice connected to a real person. With a text, there is nothing identifying the sender other then a number. Its hard to build trust, connections or anything on such an impersonal means of communication.

The only texting i do is handling addresses for meet ups and if someone is running late. I also dont accept cancling of plans over txt. People will flake if they can text, if you make them call you, they are much less likely to flake. I

The point of texting isn't to build trust or connection. The point is to set up a date. Build a connection when you're face to face.

[AlphaQup2nite]

(01-23-2011 09:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(01-20-2011 01:58 AM)AlphaQup2nite Wrote:  

It is simple. Texting is one of the most disconnected forms of communication. Its too easy to pull yourself away from everything as not real. At least on the phone there is a voice connected to a real person. With a text, there is nothing identifying the sender other then a number. Its hard to build trust, connections or anything on such an impersonal means of communication.

The only texting i do is handling addresses for meet ups and if someone is running late. I also dont accept cancling of plans over txt. People will flake if they can text, if you make them call you, they are much less likely to flake. I

The point of texting isn't to build trust or connection. The point is to set up a date. Build a connection when you're face to face.

Yes. I say why bother communicating at all if its not going to build something in the relationship.

[BostonBMW]

I like to call - its more efficient than texts back and forth, spread across hours. Most importantly, it helps to separate me from the weesh guys relying on txting to set up plans.

This one girl that I DIDN'T bang on the first date, called me a refreshing change from the boys she dates. I wasn't impressed by that - it was her calling me to see if I made it home safely, which I thought was much sweeter. Date 2 and the bang was guaranteed.

[gringoed]

(01-18-2011 04:36 AM)Quasi Wrote:  

Phone is THE shit.. its so powerfull..dudes that vote for texting instead are pureblood noobs.. except those cases where you know she is so retarded that texting might be best..
Ive started experimenting with phonesex.. ammusing opens the girls up so much for the next meeting and get her dripping wet about you... plus you can TOTALLY dominate her... she will just be moaning on the phone.. fantasizing about you..

I've never tried phonesex, how early in the relationship do you start with it?