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Gaming girls already talking to guys
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Gaming girls already talking to guys

Personally, there's nothing less attractive to me than a girl who is already with some guy, even if they're just talking or just "friends". Some guys are into taking a girl from someone else. I'm not. I know -- both consciously and subconsciously -- that that any girl who would leave their guy on short notice for someone else would do the same to me, while any girl who has guy "friends" is an attention whore and not worth anything more than a pump and dump. So when I go out I only approach girls who are either alone or in a group of female friends.

The problem with that is when I get into a situation that happened to me last night. I was out alone like usual and there were some cuties at this bar. But the ratio was fucking awful. 70:30 guys:girls at least, and every girl was already talking to some guy. The only ones I managed to talk to were at the bar and at the door. The interactions were short and I couldn't get into my rhythm. I ended up bar hopping but didn't find anything worth my time.

We've already established that I don't give a microcosm of a fuck about these girls. They are nothing to me. I just want to use them to practice my game. If I happen to get a few extra bangs out of it, cool, but practicing social skills is my #1 priority. So here's my question: how do you approach a girl who's already in an active conversation with a guy or multiple guys?
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Gaming girls already talking to guys

Quote: (03-26-2014 05:06 PM)tawillionaire Wrote:  

The problem with that is when I get into a situation that happened to me last night. I was out alone like usual and there were some cuties at this bar. But the ratio was fucking awful. 70:30 guys:girls at least, and every girl was already talking to some guy. The only ones I managed to talk to were at the bar and at the door. The interactions were short and I couldn't get into my rhythm. I ended up bar hopping but didn't find anything worth my time.

Failure to warm up properly is cited as the number 1 reason guys don't get laid.

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgENFlTLJ0

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZB07y5cnA

Quote: (03-26-2014 05:06 PM)tawillionaire Wrote:  

We've already established that I don't give a microcosm of a fuck about these girls. They are nothing to me. I just want to use them to practice my game. If I happen to get a few extra bangs out of it, cool, but practicing social skills is my #1 priority. So here's my question: how do you approach a girl who's already in an active conversation with a guy or multiple guys?

If developing your social skills is your number 1 goal… then why aren't you thinking of talking to the guys? It sounds like you are hiding something from yourself to keep your ego from being bruised. If you truly didn't give a fuck then you'd have steamrolled into the conversation (I know it's hard and I'd do well to take my own advice).

This is where opinion openers can come in handy. Either that or "you guys look like you're having the most fun in here, this must be the bang bus" or some shit like that. "It's fucking mardi gras back here". You have to calibrate to the energy of the group. Unless you are in state, in which case talk about whatever you want to talk about.

Many guys will be hostile. If the guys are hostile it typically means they have no game and are trying to protect what little pussy resources they have. Fun, abundance mentality, bro-e guys will not care, they are all about the party.
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Gaming girls already talking to guys

Quote: (03-26-2014 09:36 PM)sexysasquatch Wrote:  

Quote: (03-26-2014 05:06 PM)tawillionaire Wrote:  

The problem with that is when I get into a situation that happened to me last night. I was out alone like usual and there were some cuties at this bar. But the ratio was fucking awful. 70:30 guys:girls at least, and every girl was already talking to some guy. The only ones I managed to talk to were at the bar and at the door. The interactions were short and I couldn't get into my rhythm. I ended up bar hopping but didn't find anything worth my time.

Failure to warm up properly is cited as the number 1 reason guys don't get laid.

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgENFlTLJ0

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZB07y5cnA

I'm always warmed up on Tuesdays, that's why I love going out then -- I'm busy all day, hit the gym around 7:30, then go home, eat, and I'm out on the town by 10:30. I let my lack of approaches take me out of that and got in my own head.

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Quote: (03-26-2014 05:06 PM)tawillionaire Wrote:  

We've already established that I don't give a microcosm of a fuck about these girls. They are nothing to me. I just want to use them to practice my game. If I happen to get a few extra bangs out of it, cool, but practicing social skills is my #1 priority. So here's my question: how do you approach a girl who's already in an active conversation with a guy or multiple guys?

If developing your social skills is your number 1 goal… then why aren't you thinking of talking to the guys? It sounds like you are hiding something from yourself to keep your ego from being bruised. If you truly didn't give a fuck then you'd have steamrolled into the conversation (I know it's hard and I'd do well to take my own advice).

This is where opinion openers can come in handy. Either that or "you guys look like you're having the most fun in here, this must be the bang bus" or some shit like that. "It's fucking mardi gras back here". You have to calibrate to the energy of the group. Unless you are in state, in which case talk about whatever you want to talk about.

Many guys will be hostile. If the guys are hostile it typically means they have no game and are trying to protect what little pussy resources they have. Fun, abundance mentality, bro-e guys will not care, they are all about the party.

I meant developing social skills as in developing game. I don't go out to bars and spend money on drinks to get better at talking to my fellow men.

So you're saying you would engage the group as a whole and include the guys in conversation? Makes sense, then you can play it off like you're just a dude looking to have fun. How do you deal with hostility from other guys?
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Gaming girls already talking to guys

Thinking my issue here might just be the shitty venue. Went out last night to a much nicer place with much hotter girls, guys were way more friendly and even introduced me to their girls.
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Gaming girls already talking to guys

Prop game, perhaps?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-22094-...03140.html

(note: i wouldn't do this myself, just not my style.)
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Gaming girls already talking to guys

Quote: (03-27-2014 11:19 AM)tawillionaire Wrote:  

I meant developing social skills as in developing game. I don't go out to bars and spend money on drinks to get better at talking to my fellow men.

So you're saying you would engage the group as a whole and include the guys in conversation? Makes sense, then you can play it off like you're just a dude looking to have fun. How do you deal with hostility from other guys?

I get where you're coming from… because I was there, but you really gotta get over it (this will take some mindfuckery on your part). Don't think of it as coming out of your cave to learn and then retreating back after you're done. It's a really bad value taking mindset. When you go out unless you are already really good and have a method that gets you success, it's better to just be cool and friendly. Also realize that the game never ends. There's always room to keep improving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNBXk6sUYeQ

Don't be playing… you are a dude looking to have fun. If you are just out there to have a good time then you can never have a bad night. The only thing you can control is how much fun you are having. You can't control people's reactions and you can't control whether other people like you. You can however, control yourself. So don't sweat stuff you can't control. Eg. if you are going out to work on escalation, don't hope to get a make out that night, this is sure to leave you feeling bad most of the time starting out. Instead set the goal as "I'm gonna try to make out with every girl I talk to who I think is down."

Engage the whole group because you don't give a fuck. You don't value the girls more than the guys. They are all just there to pump you up and help you have fun. If your target girl happens to take a shine to you, it's icing on the cake. Then you move in using your knowledge of game.

Venue selection is important to. Venues full of cool people are usually friendlier than those full of uncool people who tend to live in scarcity and insecurity.
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