[Blackliter]

Approach 54
Excuse me, do you know where the closest pet store is? You look like a pet person... etc
ended shortly after

Missed approaching a 9 who was staring... I was waiting on my friend to approach.. he never, she went away.. she was stretching and showing her ass to us. fuck, never again haha

[Blackliter]

Approach 55- 64
#55,56
I'll try to capture all of them.
In the line for getting in the bar. "Black jackets huh, are you locals? \n1 of them: "hahhaha no, its just really cold.
convo lasted for 2 minutes then cold. saw them multiple times in the huge bar, re-initiated once, got shot down again. it is what is is.

#57, 58.
Holding her shoulder, "hey you're kinda pretty, where are you from. shot down within a minute. same with the other girl.
#59 heard it was her birthday, wisher her happy bday obviously, kept talking to her, cockblocked within 10 minutes. a lot of betas around her.

#59,60
friends friend who I met up with. she got swept up by an Asian mutual friend, she was asia... so made sense. other girl friend zoned me pretty fast.

#61, 62
Again night game, I suck at. Slightly complimented her, telling her she was sort of pretty, then tried to continue conversation, didn't work.

#63
On the way out, giving this girl directions, holding her fore-arm. cockblocked by friend. wasn't taking her anywhere.

#64
I actually forgot a couple girls, they don't matter. got shot down obviously, whatever.. not afraid, not affected. only thing is time is going out the window. already feel like I'm 40 years old.

Today, I worked on internalizing. I made a rule... stay between a 40% and 60% on the emotional range. 0 pessimistic. 100 opposite. And I stayed to the preset range that I layed out. sort of proud of myself. sticking to the regiment. its a dead set range. I won't be crossing it.

Looking back, I'm very bad at night game. not loud, not jacked so yes. I still approach, not afraid, but yes looks don't carry me. smart but what does it matter. i was told williamsberg wasn't that great by a couple locals, but have been contemplating it. [u]Re-reading bang[/u] still hard to act upon it

Florida is sooo much easier than NYC. even then I can't score. It is what it is. virgin for life? fine, whatever. Like travesty said, don't be dramatic. Always within 40 and 60, I'm set on that.

Time is everything.

[Blackliter]

help me out, I might be just an idiot. but what does it mean to "qualify a girl"?
Also in nyc, not really keeping up, any tips?

[Cobra]

I'm gonna take a crack but maybe some of the more experienced guys can chime in as well since it's not like I go out there and do this all the time.

"Qualifying a girl...." basically to me means having her prove to you that she's worthy. You have to have a good level of confidence and game for that. Basically think of yourself as a prince or CEO that doesn't give a shit and has girls lined up. You're just out there to chill.

With that aura, girls will prove themselves to you and qualify themselves. For example, a girl says "I'm an art student," your response can be "Oh...why art of all things?" Then she starts to "prove" to you why she picked art. In the middle, follow up with something like "why not finance where you can make more money.." You get the drift.

[Blackliter]

Did a couple approaches today, lost count. actually.. did them sober but day drank after so forgot most
For sure 5+, ill write em down later if i ever have time. pretty tired.
at what, approach #69, being conservative

too many girls saying they have BFs.. then again they are the hot ones.. 8s+ so i could see that being an issue. I approach any 6+ but even some of them.

I question them even after they say bf to check if they were bluffing. so far none have admitted to lying and its been around 10..

[Blackliter]

12th girl who said she had a bf.. they're all lying.. fuck them.

2 more approaches today. the girl ive been texting back and forth just started dating someone else. fuck this shit. on to the next one

[Phoenux]

(04-09-2014 06:14 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  

Approach 16I asked this girl from my class out to lunch. My main goal for this interaction was just to continue talking and talking.

Well I failed haha, luckily she was very open and talkative and made up for my lack of good ramble. I was proud though that I at least tried. I was with her for 40 minutes...and managed to not have many silences.

Approach 17
I saw this girl at my regular restaurant and told her a story...it was a boring one, but she listened and provided feedback. I was nervous a little, just because I have trouble stringing words together on the spot...

yea yea i know i pretty far away, but im improving. Trying to incorporate Galnuc more.

I'm not sure you failed tbh. Part of conversation skills is to make it flow and get her talking too. So whilst you maybe failed to ramble about random crap, you did hold a conversation for 40 odd minutes without awkward silences. Thats not the easiest thing in the world when you start out. I'd review the conversation and look at what you did to spark her interest. Then apply that to other conversations. nice work!

[Blackliter]

Thanks buddy.

4 more approaches the past day.. i'm becoming an approach machine. casual, on the fly. good openers. Need to work on generating attraction though.. losing that within a couple minutes.

Its early to midgame I need to work on, and night game severely. wish I had more free time.

Can more people comment lol? I literally do not know why I continue to post on this thread. will stop soon.
I've met fellow rooshers, planning to meet more, finally good to meet people with the same goals.

[jroseland]

This soooooo makes me wish I had gone to college!

[Travesty]

Early to Mid Game is the toughest part of game imo.

It will take the longest to master. It is the hook point. Once a newb is over approach anxiety and giving a fuck this is the sticking point for even advanced players. It is finding the right hook to get a girl to want to meet you again. This is something that you will spend the rest of your life trying to perfect.

The only other part of game some guys struggle with is closing, but that also gets easier much faster.

In fact if you read the more of the advanced game topics especially in Travel for all the advanced players revolves around early to mid game and convincing a girl to see them again. This is the part of Game that needs the absolute most calibration dependent on your environment and how the girl is acting towards you. This is where you turn Maybe's into Yes Girls and that is a True Player skill.

Don't be upset if your early to mid game takes longer to develop. You want to run into a Yes Girl who eyes light up when you approach and is just waiting to give her your phone number. That's what you really want for your first convert. This is why I keep saying get your approaches up. 100 is nothing. At 200-300 is when you should start expecting at least one close to bang if not bang itself.

Your approaches aren't detailed enough for members to know what is really going on.

Meet more RVF in person like you are and get them to critique. Good job on that.

Keeping this log keeps you disciplined to put up the numbers of approaches you are average what like 1 a day since you started so far? That isn't enough. Remember 100 is nothing.

That is like saying I want to be Jimi Hendrix after practicing guitar for an hour and a half. Are you fucking kidding me?

If you keep posting details more members will respect you and help and eventually you will get more members wanting to meet up. I am sure there are a bunch in NYC. If you show the effort and persevere you will get more and more in person help.

What I see glancing through seems like some poor target choice you keep getting cock blocked in day time type situations?

Target girls that are clearly alone and not in a huge hurry.

I hope you are socializing in the college scene while you still can hit some summer parties.

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I will say this as an end note if 100 approaches seems like climbing Everest and 300 seems impossible, then maybe you should quit and just do online or go to the Phillipines and do online there those are the easy ways out.

And honestly if you aren't willing to put in the work they are your best choice for you mentally.

I would give yourself something like 6 months, if you can't get to 200 approaches and don't get a bang through all avenues, time to book a ticket to Manilla and pipeline the heaviest you ever have in your life.

That is my real advice and will most likely be the best for your mental health.

I hope to hear other RVFer's suggestions.

Hook up with Checkmat. Doesn't he day game in NYC? He made big improvements.

[Blackliter]

(06-19-2014 11:12 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Early to Mid Game is the toughest part of game imo.

Thanks man appreciate it. I will say this, I take a heavy course load when at school and working a summer job north of 70 hours.. so i understand 1 approach is nothing, but for my time constraints I'll take it.

I'm just going to keep going, no I'm not going to stop at 100. My day targets are girls who are hot.. so does make it tougher. I'll only approach 7+ in daytime. and 6+ nightgame. I haven't been cockblocked much actually.. or if you consider the bf thing that. Its basically bf and the fact I'm on the subway or street with a time constraint of them walking away. I enjoy it when they blush and throw them off their balance.

I think another think is I eject too early. could very well push the interaction, it was just get a bit less smooth, awkward.

Ill try to detail more approaches, but its just so time consuming and I have maybe 30 min free time a day total. Yea 6 months and then Ill book a flight lol or hire someone if it comes down to it.. maybe eastern europe, but idk how easy it is there now.

[Blackliter]

First makeout today. It was anticlimactic, 6ish, who knows. was winging a Roosher actually. turned out to be a good venue, just didn't have the skills.

funny how its easier to approach girls in day game than night game with me (im sober w/ day, and not sober at night).

Probably ended up doing 20-30 approaches with the Roosh wing, got shot down with 80% of them, the other 18% fizzled out, and the 1 worked.

met an 18 year old on the way though and got her number before going out. hopefully can take her out sometime.

wish I could learn faster/improve faster. Meeting more Roosh people. so far im average in terms of game, just really unlucky.
I manage to pick all the non-dtf girls... hm maybe thats not luck then, but just lack of skill. only after can I tell who's dtf... I need to know before

Stopped w/ tinder. think im going to start okcupid

[Comte De St. Germain]

Just started my college life finally. So asking guys on this thread as we have more regular posts on this thread, and it deals more so with college than my thread will(mine is just 100 approaches in Houston). What are good places to host parties? I have everything besides a venue. As I don't want the backing of a frat I need a place anyone got suggestions?

[Blackliter]

Your dorm room, and later(next year) your apartment. Make sure to get an apartment close to the college going out scene and also make sure you have tile floors for living room.

Hit 100 approaches today. I was kinda off my game today unfortunately so they couldn't go anywhere.
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I've used the "excuse me, which way is xx?" and continue the conversation x20 now. tried pet shop opener x5 (didn't work too great)

meeting up with more roosh people slowly. good times.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I'm forced to commute at the moment, but I'm talking massive scale of 50-100 people possibly more.

[Blackliter]

can't help you there bro. ask the more experienced.

Went out tonight, total fiasco.. supposed to join a big group, they didn't get in anywhere, left the group, went to a diver bar.. shitty, i didn't approach, it was literally a waste of a night out. yesterday, best night out, today close to worst night out. highs and lows.

[Travesty]

(06-21-2014 02:50 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  

First makeout today. It was anticlimactic, 6ish, who knows. was winging a Roosher actually. turned out to be a good venue, just didn't have the skills.

funny how its easier to approach girls in day game than night game with me (im sober w/ day, and not sober at night).

Probably ended up doing 20-30 approaches with the Roosh wing, got shot down with 80% of them, the other 18% fizzled out, and the 1 worked.

met an 18 year old on the way though and got her number before going out. hopefully can take her out sometime.

wish I could learn faster/improve faster. Meeting more Roosh people. so far im average in terms of game, just really unlucky.
I manage to pick all the non-dtf girls... hm maybe thats not luck then, but just lack of skill. only after can I tell who's dtf... I need to know before

Stopped w/ tinder. think im going to start okcupid

Keeping at it works.

Meeting RVFers works.

You are making progress.

It is a big numbers game.

Night game will get you more lays faster IF your logistics are very tight (5 min walk or 5 min cab ride) and you learn to hold your liquor or game sober at night.

OkCupid will be much easier for someone starting out, and honestly will have your best shot at getting laid period with a 6+.

[Travesty]

(06-21-2014 06:53 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

Just started my college life finally. So asking guys on this thread as we have more regular posts on this thread, and it deals more so with college than my thread will(mine is just 100 approaches in Houston). What are good places to host parties? I have everything besides a venue. As I don't want the backing of a frat I need a place anyone got suggestions?

What?

Join a frat. Anyone on here will tell you having a frat will help X100 with pussy in college. Not joining is either excuses or hubris.

If you don't want to be around the frat all the time just be as low investment as possible and use it for the parties.