[poly_72]

What you guys think is the major pussy juicer..

A 70s muscle car

Or

A vintage motorcycle

[kinjutsu]

Tight game will do more for you than anything single item you can buy.

[monster]

Car because you can ride it in the cold, rain, and carry stuff. Also sleep in it.

[OMYG]

Of course tight game will do more for you but I think he is asking game aside between those 2 options, something that will complement his game best,which will be more appealing and I think a bike.

[Goldmund]

I used to have a 1966 Chevelle that girls thought was cool, it had a huge comfy back seat that I banged a bunch out in...but no girls really appreciated the car for what it was.

I had a lot more guys come up and open me, asking about the car.

A few summers ago I bought a 1996 yamaha virago for $2000. Decent bike, style is a bit vintage.

That bike was an incredible pussy attractor. So many girls heads would turn when riding it.

I would mention it in a first conversation with a girl and she would get crazy eyes wanting to come along. Dates lined up the entire summer, just a little ride around town on the bike...drinks...bang.

Hands down the bike did more for my sex life than any other material object. Ever.

[Switch]

Motorcycles portray a badboy type of personality that girls gravitate towards. Plus they get a lot better gas mileage and are a lot cheaper to buy. The only caveat is how much more dangerous they are--they don't call 'em 'donorcycles' for nothing.

[LaserBear]

I have an FJ Cruiser with a whole lot of external and internal aftermarket work done. Thing gets guys talking... girls are generally too dumb to notice. (Excluding the rare outdoorsy hiker type chick who knows her shit)

Till its snowing and I'm pulling girls out of ditches.
Then its "omg I love your jeep". And I shake my head because its not a fucking jeep.


70s muscle will be a stretch for a lot of girls to acknowledge the value of too, sadly.
They'll be appreciating sports car... but that's it. Much like the bike. They won't be appreciating the power, model, make, etc... just the fact they're on a motorcycle.

Unless its a major money vehicle (lambo, etc)... I'd say two wheels will pull more pussy on their own.

If you're buying a daily driver, consider weather and buy what YOU want. You have to drive it.


But, if you're buying a vehicle merely to complement your game, crotch rocket.
Cheaper, pulls chicks, fun to ride.

[blueshark747]

Take it from someone who lives in Miami.

A cool car or motorcycle only goes so far when it comes to attracting women.
Most younger women simply don't care and aren't knowledgeable about cars and bikes.
Most of these young pigeons headed women see a vintage muscle car as just that an old loud car.

Depends on the town also I guess for exotic high end car game, but in Miami it will get you no where since exotics, bikes and high ends are all too common and you'll just find yourself attracting more "cool car bro"enthusiast guys and the occasional gold digger or two than anything.

I would say motorcycles stand out the most.

My car and bike decisions are just an extension of my style creativity and imagination.
Women are never a factor..when it comes to them.

[berserk]

Motorcycle for sure unless you've got a really cool car and by cool car, I don't mean an expensive car necessarily.

Motorcycle always gets women interested in my experience. A guy who rides a motorcycle says a lot - to women - about him, that he embraces danger, thrill seeker, calm under pressure, free soul, while a car, even an expensive one could say little more than here is an actuarian (or other boring guy) who has a lot of money.

Pussy value for money, I see no comparison between motorcycle and car.

[baristabanger]

From experience, vintage bike hands down. I rode around San Antonio in a 1960s honda cb550 I decked out to look like a café racer, but kept the rear seat for obvious reasons. However, nothing turned heads much like my off the showroom floor Ducati. It was the mechanical equivalent of a supermodel in heels.

[Manwhore]

I've gotten laid because of my motorcycle absolutely. It has nothing at all to do with vintage tho. In fact vintage could take away from it. Get something more modern? The girls will "recognize" it.

[Biologist]

Honestly, I don't think it matters.

Buy whatever you like/enjoy driving more. Consequently, your confidence will shine through and she'll be attracted to you.

[bike0369]

Motorbike all the way. However, don't buy a 'normal' model, such as Honda 990 cc etc. Either go vintage, or buy flashy such as ducati or Kawasaki ninja series

[poly_72]

Yeah right now I have a 76 honda cb550 and I enjoy it its a cool little bike I turned it into a cafe racer but with slight different touches..I usually get a lot of attention from the males but the females dont really notice..the only females that do notice are the tomboys ..

[lovejoy]

Bikes are great, but I had just as much luck with an MGB with wire wheels. The MG was different enough to really get their attention and they all wanted to go for a ride. The best part is one fully restored goes for under 10 grand, but has vintage money written all over it.

[AneroidOcean]

If you're in an area with nice weather, motorcycle hands down.

However, remember that with nearly zero exception all motorcycle riders have gone down....or they are about to go down. There is a high risk of hurting yourself with a bike. Probably the single reason I don't ride.

[berserk]

(03-18-2014 08:16 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

If you're in an area with nice weather, motorcycle hands down.

However, remember that with nearly zero exception all motorcycle riders have gone down....or they are about to go down. There is a high risk of hurting yourself with a bike. Probably the single reason I don't ride.

Do you have stats on this? I haven't been able to verify it, some say as low as 2-5% crash during a year, others say much more.

As for accidents, more than half are caused by alchohol and for the remainder, 80% are caused by a clueless car driver. 50% of fatalities are due to no helmet.

It means you have quite a lot of choice on how you approach riding doesn't it? Wear protective gear, don't drink and ride, don't ride where morons drive cars and don't be a dumbass on a way too powerful bike, doing swerves in busy traffic.

I don't doubt it as such, but like with the stats of young men being involved in more car accidents, it also comes down to a certain type of young man, who is statistically much more likely, because of other factors than simply sex and age, such as low education for example.

[AneroidOcean]

(03-19-2014 12:58 AM)berserk Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 08:16 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

If you're in an area with nice weather, motorcycle hands down.

However, remember that with nearly zero exception all motorcycle riders have gone down....or they are about to go down. There is a high risk of hurting yourself with a bike. Probably the single reason I don't ride.

Do you have stats on this? I haven't been able to verify it, some say as low as 2-5% crash during a year, others say much more.

As for accidents, more than half are caused by alchohol and for the remainder, 80% are caused by a clueless car driver. 50% of fatalities are due to no helmet.

It means you have quite a lot of choice on how you approach riding doesn't it? Wear protective gear, don't drink and ride, don't ride where morons drive cars and don't be a dumbass on a way too powerful bike, doing swerves in busy traffic.

I don't doubt it as such, but like with the stats of young men being involved in more car accidents, it also comes down to a certain type of young man, who is statistically much more likely, because of other factors than simply sex and age, such as low education for example.

I wish you'd included some links to your sources seeing as you're stating exact figures yet requesting stats!

My internet search skills seem to be failing me at the moment. It seems like you should be able to find these stats from the NHTSA, but I'm having real trouble finding their data online. You can see a couple references with breakdowns (but of course they don't provide a citation with the direct link to the stats they reference) below:

http://rideapart.com/2013/05/what-the-la...le-safety/

If the above summary is correct, based on the NHTSA data:

"...based upon the average number of miles traveled by every type of vehicle on the road, in 2011 as a rider you were 30 times more likely than a passenger car occupant to die in a motor vehicle traffic crash and five times more likely to be injured while out riding a motorcycle."

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/810990.PDF

Unfortunately the above data is from 2007 but states:

"Per vehicle mile traveled in 2006, motorcyclists were about 35 times more likely than passenger car occupants to die in a motor vehicle traffic crash and 8 times more likely to be injured."



The worst part of it all for me? I LOVE the idea of riding a motorcycle. However, I hate the idea of being severely or permanently injured/killed by and large by the error in judgement or lack of my visibility from/to the driver of a car.

It's really unfortunate, but there's no escaping how less stable a motorcycle is as well as how much less visible it is, coupled with how much less safety there is from injury which all leads to a much higher rate of injury and death.

I love the idea of riding motorcycles, I really am saddened by what seems to be the reality of it.

If anyone has better/more current/more in-depth statistical data I'd love to see it.

[Bobco]

I will say that I have never had a woman on the back of my bike that didn't give it right up. The danger and rawness gets them hot and wet like nothing else that I have every had, including sports cars and classic muscle cars. Yes its dangerous as all get out. Beware thinking that you will be a proficient rider for years, you wont. Don't let it discourage you from riding but understand that with all the classes and training you can get nothing, is going to replace actual ride time with good riding habits. Remember your going to get a wild drunk chick on the back of that thing and she won't know jack about the effect of her actions. You need to be a great rider to pull it off, or just lucky. A note on selection of motorcycles a good used Jap bike is the perfect starter. Don't go for the bigger bikes you need a 450cc or so to get your "motorcycle legs". Don't worry that little bike will work just fine. Remember helmet, leathers, gloves, and boots.

[berserk]

Here are some stats with source:

http://www.motorcycleaccident.org/motorc...le-causes/

Quote:

Of the 1,791 motorcycle deaths that involved only the motorcyclist

48 percent were speeding.
42 percent had blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 percent or higher.

Quote:

More than half of motorcyclist deaths involved at least one other vehicle.

42 percent of two-vehicle fatal motorcycle crashes involved a vehicle turning left while the motorcycle was going straight, passing, or overtaking the vehicle.

I know riding a motorcycle is dangerous relatively speaking. What I am trying to figure out is to look one step beyond the aggregate statistics. When you do that, you do find out that a large portion of fatal crashes come from: Young, intoxicated drivers who are speeding and not wearing a helmet, in other words: Young dumbasses.

It is more dangerous to ride a motorcycle and I am certainly trying to rationalize the risk lower, but it is also obvious that the risk for a sensible adult isn't as high as it is made out to be if you only look at aggregate statistics.

[AneroidOcean]

(03-20-2014 11:03 PM)berserk Wrote:  

Here are some stats with source:

http://www.motorcycleaccident.org/motorc...le-causes/

Quote:

Of the 1,791 motorcycle deaths that involved only the motorcyclist

48 percent were speeding.
42 percent had blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 percent or higher.

Thank you for providing that reference but unfortunately they don't link to the source as full conclusions/summaries nor do they link to the actual statistical data which these conclusions/summaries are based off of. Does anyone have these? Again, I'm having trouble finding the originals.

I agree that not drinking while riding and not speeding while riding will without question lower your risk of injury/death. Here's a couple issues I see with the conclusions:

1. Of the fatal accidents that didn't involve another vehilce, the reasons were split roughly half and half, alcohol impairment or speeding. Alcohol impairment is defined with a BAC level. However, speeding as best as I can tell from the NHTSA website is defined merely as driving above the speed limit. While speed is obviously a factor especially as it rises really high relative to the speed limit, defining speeding as merely some amount over the speed limit doesn't really give us an accurate picture as to whether speeding was really the root cause or if it was was something else. I would be MUCH more interested if speed was a MUCH higher cause of fatality in motorcycle accidents VERSUS auto accidents.

2. If you factor out the accidents that didn't involve another vehicle, you're still looking at what, a factor of 15+ times more likely to be killed on a motorcycle by another vehicle? Going beyond that, factor out the additional people that were truly riding unsafely (I'd love to see the statistical data to actually be able to analyze speed and other factors) and what would you be left with? 5-10 times more likely to be killed?

It could be a lot less than that assuming all the proper safety gear and no intoxication/safe riding, but where is your personal threshold?

Personally assuming it's roughly 5-10 times more likely to kill me will I give it some DAMN hard thought when choosing between riding and the alternative? Definitely.

I'd love to see what the conclusions are for riders aged 25+ wearing full gear, riding safely (with regards to speed and other factors), and with HIGH visibility lights and clothing versus your average car, but sadly I haven't been able to find it.

(03-20-2014 11:03 PM)berserk Wrote:  

It is more dangerous to ride a motorcycle and I am certainly trying to rationalize the risk lower, but it is also obvious that the risk for a sensible adult isn't as high as it is made out to be if you only look at aggregate statistics.

Agreed. Top level statistics are often completely invalid as you are missing key factors as to why something is occurring and if people are only presenting top level, non-specific statistical analysis they often have a serious agenda.

[Vroom]

Oh It's true alright - if you ride, you will fall - but you won't find any stats on it, because most of the time you just pick it up and get back on it.

I've only fallen twice on the road, but perhaps 2 dozen times off road. I've actually got a broken thumb right now from coming off. It's not a big deal.

Don't worry about it man - so long as you keep your eye out and ride with the assumption that every car you see doesn't see you, and will potentially kill you if given half a chance, you'll be fine.

Personally, I ride as fast as I need to to put distance between myself and anyone else on the road, and look down every sidestreet and driveway I pass, to make sure that nobody is going to turn in front of me because "they didn't see me".

[berserk]

Over here in Thailand, most car drivers are very aware of motorcycles because there are so many and most of them have ridden one in their youth. I honestly feel safer in this crazy traffic than in a normal western city where you really have to fear particularly female drivers doing their makeup and blabbering on the phone.