[warder]

Thought some people might find this interesting.

Had a pretty fun solo night out in NYC on a random Tuesday this week. Actually tonight. Writing it fresh before I pass out so it's as detailed as possible.

I know we all talk about going out solo a ton, but it really isn't that easy. So whether you're a beginner living here, or an expert thinking about hitting NYC, I thought you could get some value from this.

I had a pretty solid Tinder date to start the night. Cool girl, and cute, but at 34, probably a little older than I'm used to. But it was kind of amazing how much better the conversation was. (Note, I'm also 34)

Hit back to my place after that around 10 and had a few beers. I'm in between jobs at the moment, so can pretty much do whatever I want. Figured I'd take advantage of being able to go out as late as I want and hit up some of the Tuesday parties that are usually off limits for me due to work.

Distant_Light has some great Reco's no doubt. Went over to VIP in Meatpacking around 12:30, but unfortunately it was pretty dead and about to close. I chatted with the bouncer for a bit and asked him where was hot. He said Le Souk was a solid Tuesday spot, so that's where I went.

Wow. Off the fucking chain. Talked with a bunch of people there, and they said it's always like that, but take it with a bit of a grain of salt. It was the owners B-Day. I've been there on a Friday and it was similar, but can't confirm weekdays are always consistent like that.

Rolling solo is never easy. Right when I got there I got a beer, and started scoping the scene. Probably 2 minutes passed before I approached the first girl. Didn't go well. But you have to be ready for that. This shit ain't easy. I got rejected 4 times before a girl hooked, and that was only for about 5 minutes.

Finally I saw a little cutie glancing my way, and I engaged, and it hooked in a big way. She was a college senior, and there with a bunch of friends visiting her in NYC for Spring Break. Big red flag logistics wise, but I was solo and wanted to meet some people, so I stuck it out.

We chatted for about 5 minutes, and I could tell she was super in to me, but I knew I had other game to play. In that situation, you have to get cool with the friends. So I asked her to introduce me to the rest of the girls. They were super cool. Most people would be surprised how easy it is to diffuse cock blocks when you plan ahead. Plus one of her guy friends who I made a point to get cool with was the man. We exchanged numbers and he's got connects across the nightlife scene so hopefully I'll be seeing him again soon.

It's so important to talk to guys just as much as the ladies. Never know who you're going to meet in a night out solo. That's the beauty in it and how you get places on lock down like we all talk about.

Long story short, my logistics were kinda shit. So I didn't get laid. But I made a couple solid connections, got a triple kiss with my girl and one of her friends, and have a number I can chase down with a cute college senior at NYU. Plus, most importantly, I had a great fucking time.

And that, is what it's all about.

[lowside]

agree with the importance of talking to dudes if they're in the same group as your target.

i'd say you had a good night. maybe you could have pipelined for tonight or something? Spring break, they will be going out every night I'd say.

[TheDealCloser]

I'm all for going out solo. I have a wing here and we compliment each other well but I don't need him. Going out solo is a challenge but I love it. I am always received well when I open a chick. Even if it goes nowhere. Shit happens. I haven't been out in NYC in more than I decade I will keep this in the back of my mind.

Thanks

[Distant Light]

Glad you actually checked the venue out... (Based on last time I've been there only time on weekdays VIP room is good is, thursday)

Le Souk used to have a CRAZY hipster/gay party that was essentially their best night until there was a situation between management and promoters. That said, Le Souk is the only place in NY that literally is "no judgment" and every night they are packed. When I say "no judgment". THEY ARE NEVER CLOSED...
- They were open during both hurricanes (they had a generator hahahaah)
- All holidays, they're open

By far one of the better non-high end venues in NY

P.S...There crab cake is AWESOME

P.S.S...It was mainly men who allowed me to get highly connected within nightlife

[soup]

(03-13-2014 02:58 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Glad you actually checked the venue out... (Based on last time I've been there only time on weekdays VIP room is good is, thursday)

Le Souk used to have a CRAZY hipster/gay party that was essentially their best night until there was a situation between management and promoters. That said, Le Souk is the only place in NY that literally is "no judgment" and every night they are packed. When I say "no judgment". THEY ARE NEVER CLOSED...
- They were open during both hurricanes (they had a generator hahahaah)
- All holidays, they're open

By far one of the better non-high end venues in NY

P.S...There crab cake is AWESOME

Le Souk was cool until the beat someone up and let it get out that it was for no good reason.

It will survive but, that place is low class.

[cheerfulwish]

I love le souk. As DL said you can go there any time and know exactly what you are getting.

I roll solo all the time during the week myself and run "Consultant Game" all the time at the hotel bars. Highly recommend if you don't mind being up late and great solo potential. My personal favorite currently is The Living Room (midtown) or the Setai

[Courage Reborn]

Nice honest report warder.

Funny to me about this, that your "logistics were shit". Hell, she's an NYU student, and you're in the city. New York girls can be particular as when it comes to this. I don't live in the city, and have have paid a big price in missed bangs, and lost interest because of it. Or had to pony up $200+ for a hotel to make it happen in the moment.

Mixed college groups are easy to penetrate, but very hard to actually pull a girl out of same night without a wing, and at 34. But if anyone can do it, it's you.

[cheerfulwish]

Hotels Tonight actually has saved me a small fortune in a bunch of cities over the years. Could save you some cash on last minute pulls CR

[warder]

(03-13-2014 09:56 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Nice honest report warder.

Funny to me about this, that your "logistics were shit". Hell, she's an NYU student, and you're in the city. New York girls can be particular as when it comes to this. I don't live in the city, and have have paid a big price in missed bangs, and lost interest because of it. Or had to pony up $200+ for a hotel to make it happen in the moment.

Mixed college groups are easy to penetrate, but very hard to actually pull a girl out of same night without a wing, and at 34. But if anyone can do it, it's you.

Yeah she had friends from out of town visiting and staying at her place, so made it really tough to get her to leave with me. I think I'll get her eventually though.

I wouldn't say Le Souk was low class. Just younger. There were a ton of hot girls for a Tuesday night. But like I said, it was the Owner's Bday, so not sure if the quality is always that high.

[Distant Light]

(03-13-2014 03:02 AM)soup Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 02:58 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Glad you actually checked the venue out... (Based on last time I've been there only time on weekdays VIP room is good is, thursday)

Le Souk used to have a CRAZY hipster/gay party that was essentially their best night until there was a situation between management and promoters. That said, Le Souk is the only place in NY that literally is "no judgment" and every night they are packed. When I say "no judgment". THEY ARE NEVER CLOSED...
- They were open during both hurricanes (they had a generator hahahaah)
- All holidays, they're open

By far one of the better non-high end venues in NY

P.S...There crab cake is AWESOME

Le Souk was cool until the beat someone up and let it get out that it was for no good reason.

It will survive but, that place is low class.

hahahaha look at my post again "situation between management and promoters" that said for what it's worth it's much better than the average bar. (I won't deny the shadiness aspect from time to time BUT when you know the management it's a non-issue haahaha)

(03-13-2014 09:56 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Nice honest report warder.

Funny to me about this, that your "logistics were shit". Hell, she's an NYU student, and you're in the city. New York girls can be particular as when it comes to this. I don't live in the city, and have have paid a big price in missed bangs, and lost interest because of it. Or had to pony up $200+ for a hotel to make it happen in the moment.

Mixed college groups are easy to penetrate, but very hard to actually pull a girl out of same night without a wing, and at 34. But if anyone can do it, it's you.

NYU and FIT dorms, you have to sign in...

I've been to all (some upper westside school) and only way to "bypass" is if the chick has an IN with the front desk or you comeback in morning time. (I'm too lazy for this)

(03-13-2014 12:06 PM)warder Wrote:  

Yeah she had friends from out of town visiting and staying at her place, so made it really tough to get her to leave with me. I think I'll get her eventually though.

I wouldn't say Le Souk was low class. Just younger. There were a ton of hot girls for a Tuesday night. But like I said, it was the Owner's Bday, so not sure if the quality is always that high.

Haven't been there on tuesdays in a long time BUT I know ratio is good and better than the average bar on...
- Sundays
- Thursdays

Based on the facebook pics I see from manager MONDAYS chicks get "ratchet" (hate that word) as they say. Tuesdays used to be my favorite back in 2012 because people would get naked and there was lots of hipsters/rockers/gays.

[Brodiaga]

Have to check out Le Souk, will probably go solo as well.

[tbone46]

I am not a club guy so may differ from others but a typical solo Tuesday night for me when i was back in NY and living in West Village would be warm-up with some tourists at spotted pig, grab a quick dinner at aria which will be packed with early 20s girls who live in Murray Hill but made the move downtown for a "girls night dinner" (aria has a great 2-sided communal bar where you are almost forced to talk to the people across from you), then go up to Standard in meatpacking, and if nothing cooked up by then go to Employees Only back in West Village for late night which is hardcore locals and service industry people...even if you dont get laid there if you are a regular u r gonna get a lot of free drinks elsewhere in the west village because on any given late night half the bartenders in the neighborhood are there after they get off...great place to nightlife network and lay the groundwork for future nights.

[BallsDeep]

LeSouk has been a good Sunday spot for years. I might hit it up this Sunday, if anyone is interested in meeting up send me a PM.

[lookslikeit]

I'm in New York for a couple more days. Going solo. If any guys wants to meetup, you can PM me. Average game and logistics.

[Hazaer]

Rolling solo is never easy, hats off to OP.

Two things that really stood out from what he did:

1. He already started the night with a date, that amped up the energy and confidence in a big way and set up the mood to be very social henceforth
2. Good move to ask her to introduce, not all girls might take that initiative, especially if its a large group.

But I guess isolation is the biggest hurdle in this scenario, she is always going to listen to her friends over the guy she just met. So getting that SDL was always going to be hard. Hopefully, she doesnt flake now.

Some questions to OP:

How did you approach the girls, did you position yourself at the bar etc. so that they were in the vicinity or did you go over to them? I find walking around the bar by yourself is a DLV but obviously targets might be far away from the bar.

Especially with 4 approaches before, how did you go on dude? I mean that girl at the end and a lot of the others in the bar must have seen you ejecting more than once for sure if she was checking you out for a while.

[Pointer]

After you go through this situation a few times it will get old very quick. It's rare that you meet some beta orbiter who isn't a complete asshole.
Best thing to do is to avoid her friends as much as possible and take her to another venue saying "well be back, let me show you a cool place down the street". If she refuses after a couple tries better to save your time and eject. People you meet on a random night out are very flaky.

(12-01-2018 06:26 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

How did you approach the girls, did you position yourself at the bar etc. so that they were in the vicinity or did you go over to them? I find walking around the bar by yourself is a DLV but obviously targets might be far away from the bar.

Especially with 4 approaches before, how did you go on dude? I mean that girl at the end and a lot of the others in the bar must have seen you ejecting more than once for sure if she was checking you out for a while.

For sure you can't be in a bar that's half empty approaching left and right. However, in a place with a lot of traffic even if a girl checks out from far away she will just assume you are being social even if you get rejected. It's much worse if she looks at you standing there alone. Plus, you give girls too much credit, they have a short term memory and doing 4 approaches in 1 hour is not the same as 4 approaches in 10 minutes.

The best time to approach is immediately after entering the bar because then you have an excuse to walk up to her (you're just on your way to order a drink). If the bar is busy you'll have to wait for a drink, that's another good time to approach girls that pass by. Once you get the drink, you then have another excuse to walk around making space for others who are waiting in line. "Suddenly" you get pushed around until you're next to your 4th or 5th girl.
If a girl is standing somewhere in the back you just have to be patient and be in the right place at the right time. She will eventually move to order another drink or she will go to the toilet or one of her friends will do those things and you can open them. You may also approach her when her friend is not there. It's easy to get lost in the crowd and not pay attention though.

[Rang off the Pipe]

If you're in a reasonably crowded venue (as in not packed together liked sardines), you can find a good spot to stand and screen for girls who are giving you eye contact or have "open" body language. There's no need to be constantly moving necessarily. One thing I will say is that doing this assumes that you're in a good venue for night game. That means wide bars, open space, a lack of tables, no deafening music, and a solid volume of people (preferably with a good ratio). Finding such a place isn't easy and I've only been in one venue that fits the bill in the city where I am now (which is in the top 10 in population among US cities but not New York).

But yes, the toughest things about night game are the flakiness, low attention spans, and groups. There is a certain subset of girls that go out on weekends in the US, venue and scene differences notwithstanding.

[Hazaer]

(12-02-2018 11:01 AM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  

There is a certain subset of girls that go out on weekends in the US, venue and scene differences notwithstanding.

What have you experienced to be their agenda? And is this good or bad? I see lots of girls queuing up at the fast food places after a night out (no guys in tow) so not everyone in this subset were up to meet guys though there would be no shortage of decent dudes especially in the anglosphere in the big cities I would imagine. Out for more pics for instagram perhaps?

@pointer, definitely agree on opening immediately upon entering into a bar whether solo or not (much more effective if you are with a wing or a group). The longer you wait before opening, the harder and low energy its going to come out as. But on the other hand, you jump in without IOIs and she is not interested/there is a bf in the group or something, it can be a vibe killer, and the poor manners/sense of entitlement that comes out from some girls at night do not help. Worth noting that eventually OP had success with a girl who was giving IOIs, though we are not sure if the girls prior gave signals or not.

Even with all the odds in your favor, ie. good logistics, you get IOIs, she is in a 2 set and its obvious they are looking to meet people, no beta blockers, you get on well with the friend, sealing the deal just seems like a huge mountain. You want to isolate her/change venues, her friend will have something to say (if she hasn't found somebody yet) and she feels bad leaving her. And a number at that case would mean close to nothing. Unless, you rope in other guys who may or may not destroy the vibe you built.

I commend the efforts of guys rolling solo at night but is it sustainable for the long term assuming you have time and finances to do so? I see new guys posting their first night out solo and I can't help thinking that the initial small steps of success might be a mirage if they continue solo missions on the regular.

Let us stick to NYC for context and topic relevance. This is probably as good as it gets rolling solo anywhere.