Hey guys, so it's time that I contributed a little more to the forum, as the forum has given me a lot.
OK so there are a lot of NYC threads, and a lot of California threads, but I haven't seen one that highlights NY from a Californian's perspective. I go to NY a lot, but am CA based, so I thought I would drop a quick thread on what Cali guys should expect to see in terms of differences.
This was originally written as a series of PMs from me to one of the NY members, but nothing in the notes would identify him. I wrote this while I was in NY recently, so it's a very fresh perspective. Here are my notes:
"Hey man I am little brain dead today from drinking 3 days in a row, but I will send you some of my thoughts as they come to me. I'm a bit scattered at the moment, but I noticed some stuff right away that stands out.
There are a lot more alpha guys here. They don't necessarily have more game than SF guys, I would argue they actually have less. But night game here is very different because you have a lot of guys trying to talk to girls whereas in SF you have a lot more guys who are afraid to approach.
The girls here are on a much wider spectrum of showing interest vs disinterest. Girls have straight up stared at me here, which doesn't really happen at home - even a girl who is very interested in you will maybe give you a glance at best. On the flip side, girls who didn't want to talk to me or my buddy here were not subtle about their disinterest. We got a few one word answers where the girl immediately walked away.
Girls are a lot more yes/no here. A California girl who's not really interested in you will often hang around and let you talk her into it. I don't really see girls here doing that.
Girls are not afraid to beta their boyfriends here, which is kind of fucked up. A few girls have straight up stared at me while walking with their boyfriends. A girl in CA would be a lot more subtle normally.
My initial impression is that masculinity is respected here. So is outspokenness. I can't really say that about home.
On the 3rd day of trying to figure out why I was getting ignored so much, I started changing the way I move and walk. Started walking more aggressively, more of an open stance. More of a come-at-me attitude. More attitude in general. More of a pissed off arrogant look on my face, even if I wasn't feeling that way exactly. This made a huge difference in how girls responded and were willing to talk to me.
My impression is that you have to be more aggressive and that if you aren't here then forget it, because the other guys are.
There is also a wider age range of girls showing interest here. Teenage girls at one point - that would almost never happen in SF."
"Money seems to also matter more so here. I think there are more gold diggers here. I feel like showing off that you have money here would be more effective than at home.
A lot of things you can be blatant about here are things you have to be more subtle about in sf."
"Basically to summarize it, I noticed that masculinity is respected here in NY, whereas out there if you come off as too hyper masculine you will come across too buffoon-ish. Out here I noticed no matter how much I jacked up the attitude, the walk, the swagger, etc it didn't come off as a negative with the girls. Whereas at home girls will often roll their eyes at that shit.
I didn't get any notches from the bars while I was out here, but my next to last night in the city I banged my airbnb hostess. We pre-gamed at her apt, then went out, got smashed in the city. Lol!"
OK so there are a lot of NYC threads, and a lot of California threads, but I haven't seen one that highlights NY from a Californian's perspective. I go to NY a lot, but am CA based, so I thought I would drop a quick thread on what Cali guys should expect to see in terms of differences.
This was originally written as a series of PMs from me to one of the NY members, but nothing in the notes would identify him. I wrote this while I was in NY recently, so it's a very fresh perspective. Here are my notes:
"Hey man I am little brain dead today from drinking 3 days in a row, but I will send you some of my thoughts as they come to me. I'm a bit scattered at the moment, but I noticed some stuff right away that stands out.
There are a lot more alpha guys here. They don't necessarily have more game than SF guys, I would argue they actually have less. But night game here is very different because you have a lot of guys trying to talk to girls whereas in SF you have a lot more guys who are afraid to approach.
The girls here are on a much wider spectrum of showing interest vs disinterest. Girls have straight up stared at me here, which doesn't really happen at home - even a girl who is very interested in you will maybe give you a glance at best. On the flip side, girls who didn't want to talk to me or my buddy here were not subtle about their disinterest. We got a few one word answers where the girl immediately walked away.
Girls are a lot more yes/no here. A California girl who's not really interested in you will often hang around and let you talk her into it. I don't really see girls here doing that.
Girls are not afraid to beta their boyfriends here, which is kind of fucked up. A few girls have straight up stared at me while walking with their boyfriends. A girl in CA would be a lot more subtle normally.
My initial impression is that masculinity is respected here. So is outspokenness. I can't really say that about home.
On the 3rd day of trying to figure out why I was getting ignored so much, I started changing the way I move and walk. Started walking more aggressively, more of an open stance. More of a come-at-me attitude. More attitude in general. More of a pissed off arrogant look on my face, even if I wasn't feeling that way exactly. This made a huge difference in how girls responded and were willing to talk to me.
My impression is that you have to be more aggressive and that if you aren't here then forget it, because the other guys are.
There is also a wider age range of girls showing interest here. Teenage girls at one point - that would almost never happen in SF."
"Money seems to also matter more so here. I think there are more gold diggers here. I feel like showing off that you have money here would be more effective than at home.
A lot of things you can be blatant about here are things you have to be more subtle about in sf."
"Basically to summarize it, I noticed that masculinity is respected here in NY, whereas out there if you come off as too hyper masculine you will come across too buffoon-ish. Out here I noticed no matter how much I jacked up the attitude, the walk, the swagger, etc it didn't come off as a negative with the girls. Whereas at home girls will often roll their eyes at that shit.
I didn't get any notches from the bars while I was out here, but my next to last night in the city I banged my airbnb hostess. We pre-gamed at her apt, then went out, got smashed in the city. Lol!"